Request to ZOS - Please remove all VR levels with 1.6 update

NewBlacksmurf

Hey developer team.
For what it's worth, please remove the VR levels at 1.6 patch.

I'm sure many will comment with specifics to why so I plan to start out here:

-Because CP system will cause a reworking and assigning of CP points, please remove the VR levels from all characters, gear and NPC's.

-The VR content and silver or gold quests can be looked at after 1.6 along with the other things you're phasing in/out but please do not leave these levels in the game after 1.6

- Just don't also ruin the console launch by leaving VR levels in the game

Please hear this community as well as others...it's time to let that system go.
Thanks

Varicite

Pretty sure they aren't removing VR yet mostly due to having to rework the sets / stats for all of the endgame equipment in the game.

Just my thoughts on it.

Iago

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Hey developer team.
For what it's worth, please remove the VR levels at 1.6 patch.

I'm sure many will comment with specifics to why so I plan to start out here:

-Because CP system will cause a reworking and assigning of CP points, please remove the VR levels from all characters, gear and NPC's.

-The VR content and silver or gold quests can be looked at after 1.6 along with the other things you're phasing in/out but please do not leave these levels in the game after 1.6

- Just don't also ruin the console launch by leaving VR levels in the game

Please hear this community as well as others...it's time to let that system go.
Thanks

the problem with that is they have made the first stage of the champion system so dependent on that levels that they would have to rework most things done to the champion system to make that a reality. that would push factor 1.6 released till next year most likely.

DanielMaxwell

would be easier for them to delay the champion system until they are ready to remove the Veteran Ranks system , but that would actually make sense so do not hold your breath on them doing that.

NewBlacksmurf

It's their mess that no one wants...honestly there are tons of posts with great ideas of how to remove it. I'm just saying pick one or a combo of a few and get rid of it.

Patch 1.6 already missed its release expected date. Heck it barely hit PTS in Jan so now....do it right


Imagine this....when hitting 50 means something and the Champion system will merit itself with out conflict of a terrible time sync that still has no purpose.

The subscriptions cease to matter next month so there is no reason to keep this.
Silver and gold quests can then become fun exploration and Crag can start at 50 but still require some X amount of CP's to be viable.

Tweak the 50 to Crag and Vet dungeons. Heck it should be a lot easier than coming up with random values for non-player levels.

I mean what's the purpose of launching the Champ system into of a broken endless leveling VR system.

Champion system or bust!

Varicite

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Patch 1.6 already missed its release expected date. Heck it barely hit PTS in Jan so now....do it right

Yeah, I wouldn't hold your breath.

Or are we ignoring literally every update the game has ever received now?

NewBlacksmurf

Varicite wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Patch 1.6 already missed its release expected date. Heck it barely hit PTS in Jan so now....do it right

Yeah, I wouldn't hold your breath.

Or are we ignoring literally every update the game has ever received now?

I'm OK with them missing dates as long as they bring value. There is a lot of good in 1.6 but the VR levels hurt the good as it's the sore thumb of the game. It's also redundant. Let people be DONE at 50 and allow your champion system and the new features bring about a fresh feel.

In my opinion this particular change will not outrage anyone but instead excite millions.

Then between 1.6 and 1.7 they can work on tweaks. Just do it already

Mettaricana

definitely canceling sub til i see progress

Messy1

I agree. Remove VR ranks!

GreyBrow

VR ranks need to go. New players and casuals WILL NOT stick around and keep pumping your bank account full of money once they realize 50 is not the end of the line

Gyudan

An hybrid system would be very viable if tweaked a little.

VR1-VR13s are missing out on:
- Trials (AA, Hel Ra, SO)
- Dragonstar Arena Normal and Veteran
- Access to the best item sets
- Incentive to upgrade their gear to legendary, since they'll outlevel it a few hours later
- Fair fights in PVP

Suggestions for @ZOS:
- Allow level scaling of the first 2 trials (Aetherian Archive and Hel Ra Citadel) and Dragonstar Arena Normal to group leader level, down to VR1. Downscaled completions shouldn't count towards leaderboards.
- If the console version is successful enough, add a PVP campaign limited to VR10, in addition to the non-vet campaign.

Guppet

Hey guys, we are raising the titanic. We are fixing it and selling tickets for its relaunch. Then on our maiden voyage we are gonna ram the biggest iceberg we can find! Who's in?

This is what they are doing.

Joejudas

So when they nerfed all my stats and end game raid armor that wasn't vet ranks going away. What was it then ? A favor ?

Joejudas

GreyBrow wrote: »

VR ranks need to go. New players and casuals WILL NOT stick around and keep pumping your bank account full of money once they realize 50 is not the end of the line

But having cp cap out at 3600 and gained at 1 every 4 hours will keep them around ?

Iago

Joejudas wrote: »

So when they nerfed all my stats and end game raid armor that wasn't vet ranks going away. What was it then ? A favor ?

it's their way of thanking everybody for buying the game and paying the monthly subscription for the last year.

NewBlacksmurf

Guppet wrote: »

Hey guys, we are raising the titanic. We are fixing it and selling tickets for its relaunch. Then on our maiden voyage we are gonna ram the biggest iceberg we can find! Who's in?

This is what they are doing.

Good analogy