Can you make it so we can abandon our campaign/server for 15k?

Asia_Skyly

I have characters on all three factions right now, moving them from one campaign to another is a nightmare. All I am asking is for an option to either:

1. Guest to the same server you are homed.
2. Allow us to leave a campaign for the same cost of 15k AP.

When leaving the campaign there should NOT be a time penalty to select a new one.

badmojo

Agreed. If for whatever reason I decided I wanted my 4 DC characters on the 4 vet campaigns, I couldn't do it because my EP and AD characters can only switch, they can't leave a campaign.

Roechacca

Ya ummm that system is suppose to do that . Prevent faction swapping an what not .

Asgari

No way! The lockout should be more than it is now. Last thing we need is people hopping servers and farming emp on an even more daily basis. You silly kids and your wacky ideas

Teargrants

No.

badmojo

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

No way! The lockout should be more than it is now. Last thing we need is people hopping servers and farming emp on an even more daily basis. You silly kids and your wacky ideas

What....lockout? The wacky idea is that your character has to switch to another campaign rather than just leave entirely.

I have a couple AD characters that I never play, I homed them in a campaign months ago, now my guild is moving to that camapign. I don't mind having to earn the 15k ap to leave the campaign, but the fact that I have to move them to another campaign rather than just having them sit out of PVP entirely is just bad design.

4 campaigns, 3 factions, & 8 characters. It adds up to frustration without actually preventing exploitation.

SoulScream

I agree ZOS please listen and do this! I made different faction characters because I didn't want to do all the factions on one character. I wanted to do them from the ground up. I had no idea I couldn't leave or unguest from a campaign. Now I may need to delete my alts. The system is redundant since travel to player gets around it.

Roechacca

Ohh so it's a LOL war you want eh ?!

Teargrants

I will out lol you all, for I have the favor of Dee Tick.

Asgari

Sorry I have the best LOL:Comment ratio. But I still win in this thread as no one should be able to have alts in the same campaign from different factions and you should have to wait the time they give to swap guest/home to keep from groups farming Emp on fresh servers.

Enodoc

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Sorry I have the best LOL:Comment ratio. But I still win in this thread as no one should be able to have alts in the same campaign from different factions and you should have to wait the time they give to swap guest/home to keep from groups farming Emp on fresh servers.

@Princess_Asgari‌ @roechacca‌ I think you missed the point. OP doesn't want to have alts from different factions in the same campaign; they want to get the alts from other factions out of a campaign so that they can re-Home their main. They aren't opposed to the faction lock, the lockout timer or the AP cost.

Roechacca

Enodoc wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Sorry I have the best LOL:Comment ratio. But I still win in this thread as no one should be able to have alts in the same campaign from different factions and you should have to wait the time they give to swap guest/home to keep from groups farming Emp on fresh servers.

@Princess_Asgari‌ @roechacca‌ I think you missed the point. OP doesn't want to have alts from different factions in the same campaign; they want to get the alts from other factions out of a campaign so that they can re-Home their main. They aren't opposed to the faction lock, the lockout timer or the AP cost.

I read this 5 times . There's still a blinking , buzzing lightbulb over my head . Ah never mind it just broke .

Elsonso

I agree. I have one character parked in a campaign that I do not care about simply because I had to move it and could not opt out of Cyrodiil completely.

Now I get notifications from Cyrodiil on that character for a campaign I do not care about.

I sent a note to CS and the reply was that I am stuck there, so I am patiently waiting for them to dump the campaigns. I figure that they will do this for Tamriel Unlimited, but then I also expected them to do it with Update 5. Once they do, I can finally be free of Cyrodiil on that character.

Roechacca

If they allowed people to drop campaigns completly , they would have more cross faction troubles . They'd need to implement a lock out based on the campaign to do this . 7 days for 7 day campaigns , 14 days for 2 weeks campaign and 30 day lockout for major campaigns . If players just want to drop out of PVP all together , I could see this as a option .

SoulScream

I think you missed the point. OP doesn't want to have alts from different factions in the same campaign; they want to get the alts from other factions out of a campaign so that they can re-Home their main. They aren't opposed to the faction lock, the lockout timer or the AP cost.

Yes this. It's extremely simple to have alts in the same camp. But I don't want that I want to be able to leave a camp or guest. I made alts and selected a camp because I was prompted to by the cyro mail I got and I didn't know I could never unselect. There are so few camps now that I actually had my characters locked, none could move camps. I had to contact CS and have a character temporarily deleted so I could fix it.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

It should just be a % of the AP you have earned whist in that campaign. i.e if you have made 4m AP and become emp then leaving to give it to a friend it costs you 600k+ but if you earned 100 AP it only costs you 15 AP to swap.

Ackwalan

Being able to port to friends from guild or friends list makes faction locking pointless. People are able to jump from campaign to campaign is already done. There is no reason for someone to not be able to abandon a campaign.

Kartalin

Can't you home your AD on the same campaign? Pick one you don't want to play on and do that, probably your best option as things are now.

Enodoc

roechacca wrote: »

If they allowed people to drop campaigns completly , they would have more cross faction troubles . They'd need to implement a lock out based on the campaign to do this . 7 days for 7 day campaigns , 14 days for 2 weeks campaign and 30 day lockout for major campaigns . If players just want to drop out of PVP all together , I could see this as a option .

How would there be more cross-faction troubles? The lockout timer and cost would be exactly the same; abandon a Home Campaign for 15,000 AP and you can't set any other Home campaign for 3 days. Abandon a Guest Campaign for free, and you can't set a new Guest Campaign for 3 days. This is exactly the same as the current system, except it results in some characters not being assigned to any campaigns at all.

Roechacca

Enodoc wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

If they allowed people to drop campaigns completly , they would have more cross faction troubles . They'd need to implement a lock out based on the campaign to do this . 7 days for 7 day campaigns , 14 days for 2 weeks campaign and 30 day lockout for major campaigns . If players just want to drop out of PVP all together , I could see this as a option .

How would there be more cross-faction troubles? The lockout timer and cost would be exactly the same; abandon a Home Campaign for 15,000 AP and you can't set any other Home campaign for 3 days. Abandon a Guest Campaign for free, and you can't set a new Guest Campaign for 3 days. This is exactly the same as the current system, except it results in some characters not being assigned to any campaigns at all.

In short I said if you leave a campaign you just couldn't get back until it's over and a new one starts . That would lock out people from coming back in with alts .

kimboh

Yeah, I just had to delete one of my characters on the PTS so I could enter Haredus on my main.
I've also had similar problems on live.
I've learned to never roll an alt on a different faction, it just creates problems.

SoulScream

Yeah I had no idea the system would be so troublesome or I wouldn't have either. I thought it was a great idea to do the other factions on an alt from the start instead of as a vet.

badmojo

roechacca wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

If they allowed people to drop campaigns completly , they would have more cross faction troubles . They'd need to implement a lock out based on the campaign to do this . 7 days for 7 day campaigns , 14 days for 2 weeks campaign and 30 day lockout for major campaigns . If players just want to drop out of PVP all together , I could see this as a option .

How would there be more cross-faction troubles? The lockout timer and cost would be exactly the same; abandon a Home Campaign for 15,000 AP and you can't set any other Home campaign for 3 days. Abandon a Guest Campaign for free, and you can't set a new Guest Campaign for 3 days. This is exactly the same as the current system, except it results in some characters not being assigned to any campaigns at all.

In short I said if you leave a campaign you just couldn't get back until it's over and a new one starts . That would lock out people from coming back in with alts .

My god man, do you not see that what you're trying so hard to avoid is already possible?

Let me spell it out for you.

My DC character is in Thornblade. I spend 15k AP and move him to Chillrend. My AD and EP characters can now move to Thornblade. Oh GOD NO! The humanity!

So why exactly is it better that I'm forced to move to a campaign rather than just leave PVP completely? Please, tell me what is going on inside that head of yours, you seem so damn sure that the ability to leave all campaigns will open up the door for massive amounts of exploitation. But all you ever say is "they could..." but they already can!

TheBull

PLEASE I have an level 19 alt of another faction from like 5 months ago. He doesn't have enough AP to switch servers. I want to make the server he's on my mains guest server... All I can do is delete him.. I'm not going to play him.

badmojo

TheBull wrote: »

PLEASE I have an level 19 alt of another faction from like 5 months ago. He doesn't have enough AP to switch servers. I want to make the server he's on my mains guest server... All I can do is delete him.. I'm not going to play him.

Man up and play for a couple hours. This thread is not about circumventing the price of leaving a campaign.

TheBull

badmojo wrote: »

TheBull wrote: »

PLEASE I have an level 19 alt of another faction from like 5 months ago. He doesn't have enough AP to switch servers. I want to make the server he's on my mains guest server... All I can do is delete him.. I'm not going to play him.

Man up and play for a couple hours. This thread is not about circumventing the price of leaving a campaign.

No it's about the problems people run into managing alts and AvA.

I play one campaign. In fact I have never played on a guest sever more than a couple hours total in the last 11 months. I play one faction. I do not want people to have multiple toons playing different faction in the same AvA either.

I just want a better solution for situations such as mine and OPs.

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO

roechacca wrote: »

Ya ummm that system is suppose to do that . Prevent faction swapping an what not .

your point is irrelevant you can guest in anyway.

it absolutely would be great if this was implemented.

OR simply reset every toon as unassigned every time a campaign ends, and physically choose a campaign every time. This would be even better, dosent encourage hopping around and you dont end up locked out because of some alt you dont even want to play with.

TheBull

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

Ya ummm that system is suppose to do that . Prevent faction swapping an what not .

your point is irrelevant you can guest in anyway.

it absolutely would be great if this was implemented.

OR simply reset every toon as unassigned every time a campaign ends, and physically choose a campaign every time. This would be even better, dosent encourage hopping around and you dont end up locked out because of some alt you dont even want to play with.

That would work too.

badmojo

TheBull wrote: »

badmojo wrote: »

TheBull wrote: »

PLEASE I have an level 19 alt of another faction from like 5 months ago. He doesn't have enough AP to switch servers. I want to make the server he's on my mains guest server... All I can do is delete him.. I'm not going to play him.

Man up and play for a couple hours. This thread is not about circumventing the price of leaving a campaign.

No it's about the problems people run into managing alts and AvA.

I play one campaign. In fact I have never played on a guest sever more than a couple hours total in the last 11 months. I play one faction. I do not want people to have multiple toons playing different faction in the same AvA either.

I just want a better solution for situations such as mine and OPs.

Right, but we can't just throw out the AP cost for moving campaigns. Even if they gave the option of leaving a campaign for free, people would just leave then join another one and save that 15k AP.

15k AP isn't that hard to get if there is at least some action on the campaign.

Roechacca

Brian_wheeler posted he knows about the way to circumvent the system . That was not intended . You guys post what ever you want . I don't think allowing people to circumvent the system is a good idea . It's exploitable . Maybe he has a plan to fix it in 1.6 ? Maybe not .

SoulScream

I would be completely happy with having an option to unassign camp home/quest at camp end. Anything at all would help!