Console - How will we group? Dungeons, Raids, Co-Op quests

NewBlacksmurf

Because the LFG tool no longer works and because most will not use a keyboard ( even if text chat is supported in-game) how are we to group with others?

The forums don't have a smartphone app like Destiny or SmartGlass (xboxOne)


Just curious what else Zenimax is working on to fill this gap

Amsel_McKay

The LFG tool will work on console and vocal chat is built in...

EQBallzz

I thought they said in the last ESO Live (iirc) that console communication would largely be voice chat that is proximity based as well as group/guild/raid options. So as you come up to a group of people talking in /say you will hear them (if you have that option on) or you can just have it on for groups/guilds or whatever. In some respects it sounds cool but I can think of many more problems with it. Will all the WTS messages from PC chat turn into people actually yelling into voice chat in cities? /shudder

NewBlacksmurf

vocal chat doesn't allow you to group with others who are not close by. Also if voice chat is local only. Meaning you can't talk to ppl in other zones this doesn't help.

Ppl can turn off voice chat entirely and tho Zenimax makes it sound like its basic there is a limited number of ppl who can chat at a time on console (limited to NAT settings).

I'm hoping for some type of tool or console specific queue system or app
Something essay uyou better than what Destiny has in the UI when you see others but can't chat.

Perhaps I'm wishing on a far fetched idea...but a chat zone that allows ppl to join and leave with the ability to form groups would be ideal.

I'd call it the "Taverns" system

Curragraigue

I think what you are going to need is a well organised guild. Based on how other MMOs operate on consoles the developers leave it to players to organise this themselves.

If you want to see an example check out the guild in my signature below. We have guild organised events for FFXIV and DCUO. Then if people want something specific they organise it on the guild website, through GroupMe or direct through PSN. We also friend up with people playing the same games and jump into party chat with people to see who is doing what on the day.

If anyone is planning on playing on PS4 we will be setting up a guild so check out our site to see if we are a fit. End of shameless plug

YstradClud

Be interesting to see if it works out or not. Few developers have been trying to get mmo's to work on console now but none of them have been very successful. Going to rely a lot on voice chat and just making friends really I would say.

JoffyToffy69

This is definitely a huge question I have too.
My friend is set on console, so I will be playing on it with him. I wonder how the zone chat would work.

I think if they had a universal auction house, the zone chat wouldn't be spammed as much.
Take that out and zone chat would then consist of LFG. No idea how the tool will work, since it hasn't really worked so far...

People asking questions in zone chat don't really need zone chat for that. They can just /say to people they encounter.


On another note, I hope they have a cool radius effect. Can hear people in the distance or as they get closer. Would be pretty cool.

Lets just hope we don't get idiots playing their crappy music through their mic. Or little kids screaming... or open mics where you hear all the background noise.... .... ....
I might just stay on pc lol

kewl

JoffyToffy69 wrote: »

Lets just hope we don't get idiots playing their crappy music through their mic. Or little kids screaming... or open mics where you hear all the background noise.

Welcome to the console it gets worse here everyday
You learn to live like an animal in the console where we play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1tj2zJ2Wvg

Curragraigue

ESO your a very sexy girl
but with all the changes to skills your very hard to please
you can taste the provisioning changes
but you won't get them for free

JoffyToffy69

kewl wrote: »

JoffyToffy69 wrote: »

Lets just hope we don't get idiots playing their crappy music through their mic. Or little kids screaming... or open mics where you hear all the background noise.

Welcome to the console it gets worse here everyday
You learn to live like an animal in the console where we play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1tj2zJ2Wvg

If only it was quality music like this that was played
I think I will encounter terrible music on console though...

ContraTempo

Really hated this about other MMOs. Blabbermouths who can't shut up. More off topic chatter than on topic talk. People for whom every other word is an unnecessary expletive, or uh..., or you know. Deep voiced men playing female characters and vice versa. NOT that I have any problem with someone playing outside their gender -- it's role playing after all and I have both F and M characters -- but the mismatched voice harshes my game. Jerks being intentionally obnoxious with music, noise, yelling, or playing stupid sound effects. I use mute. A lot. Which kinda defeats the purpose.

Funkopotamus

There will be a lot of folks using a keyboard honestly.. Just plug one in and go.

YstradClud

I play GTA Online on Xbox One and the group finder works quite well but the missions basically paint a yellow line to objectives and spell out what to do in text on the screen.

In the open world you can hear a lot of people talking but if someone has music blaring you don't like or is annoying you can just mute them.

The real challenge will be seeing if the console players can actually co-ordinate enough to complete the content in ESO. I think clans and small groups of friends will have a good time on consoles though.

Razzak

Wouldn't a proper, working LFG tool be the best solution? No text typing, no need to use limited voice chat and no need to use only your guild. Ultimate freedom in choosing how and when you want to group.
Is having a working grouping tool really such an impossibility?

rawne1980b16_ESO

Curragraigue wrote: »

If anyone is planning on playing on PS4 we will be setting up a guild so check out our site to see if we are a fit. End of shameless plug

I am tempted with getting it for the PS4.

Just found out my wifes getting me one for my birthday. Gotta love kids that can't keep a secret when bribed.

riverdragon72

Amsel_McKay wrote: »

The LFG tool will work on console and vocal chat is built in...

Funkopotamus

xCHEMISTx wrote: »

The real challenge will be seeing if the console players can actually co-ordinate enough to complete the content in ESO. I think clans and small groups of friends will have a good time on consoles though.

I swear some people think porting ESO or any MMO to console is like giving a child a shotgun and a box of shell's..

Fact is more and more of us older folks would rather sit in our living room on a decent armchair and play. I think there will be plenty of great people on console. Will there be the occasional kid just trolling people? sure there will be, but at least it will be BTP so most people will have played an MMO before.

But yes there will be a few "Wut..? I thut dis wuz skyreem bra?!"

Curragraigue

Funkopotamus wrote: »

xCHEMISTx wrote: »

The real challenge will be seeing if the console players can actually co-ordinate enough to complete the content in ESO. I think clans and small groups of friends will have a good time on consoles though.

I swear some people think porting ESO or any MMO to console is like giving a child a shotgun and a box of shell's..

Fact is more and more of us older folks would rather sit in our living room on a decent armchair and play. I think there will be plenty of great people on console. Will there be the occasional kid just trolling people? sure there will be, but at least it will be BTP so most people will have played an MMO before.

But yes there will be a few "Wut..? I thut dis wuz skyreem bra?!"

That is not limited to either console or F2P because we have people like that playing now on PC with a sub. I have had to ignore the more moronic zone spammers already.

riverdragon72

The LFG tool live now hasn't worked for a year or better.

Razzak

riverdragon72 wrote: »

The LFG tool live now hasn't worked for a year or better.

Even more of a reason to fix it now and let us test it. They could have used latest PTS to test changes or fixes, but it looks like they've done nothing to improve it, so far.

tengri

Unless you are coming from the PC version you do not know that LFG tool does not work.
Console Ppl will just sitting there waiting for groups for ever... and that's actually a pretty smart way by Z to ensure they will have to keep playing for a really long, long time.

NewBlacksmurf

Razzak wrote: »

Wouldn't a proper, working LFG tool be the best solution? No text typing, no need to use limited voice chat and no need to use only your guild. Ultimate freedom in choosing how and when you want to group.
Is having a working grouping tool really such an impossibility?

I'm with you. Maybe something new is coming but they are waiting to finalize their thoughts

ferdiverbeekeb17_ESO2

Funkopotamus wrote: »

There will be a lot of folks using a keyboard honestly.. Just plug one in and go.

Stupid, they will certainly not use a keyboard.

I hope they don't underestimate. I am playing console games for a very long time in my life. Console players group more often and they only use voice chat.

NewBlacksmurf

xCHEMISTx wrote: »

The real challenge will be seeing if the console players can actually co-ordinate enough to complete the content in ESO. I think clans and small groups of friends will have a good time on consoles though.

I'll say this again....I and millions of other PC players also own consoles. People who choose a console over a PC are not less competent than someone on PC.

Navigating using a controller is by far more natural than a keyboard. I don't play this on keyboard and have been very successful playing all roles solo and in groups since BETA.

Why do people have a mindset that PC folk or keyboard/mouse is better?

Razzak

ferdiverbeekeb17_ESO2 wrote: »

Funkopotamus wrote: »

There will be a lot of folks using a keyboard honestly.. Just plug one in and go.

Stupid, they will certainly not use a keyboard.

I hope they don't underestimate. I am playing console games for a very long time in my life. Console players group more often and they only use voice chat.

I am one of those that are hoping ZOS will add same voice chat options to PC as consoles will have, but would you be against using in game grouping tool for making groups?

YstradClud

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

xCHEMISTx wrote: »

The real challenge will be seeing if the console players can actually co-ordinate enough to complete the content in ESO. I think clans and small groups of friends will have a good time on consoles though.

I'll say this again....I and millions of other PC players also own consoles. People who choose a console over a PC are not less competent than someone on PC.

Navigating using a controller is by far more natural than a keyboard. I don't play this on keyboard and have been very successful playing all roles solo and in groups since BETA.

Why do people have a mindset that PC folk or keyboard/mouse is better?

It's not so much that any players are better or worse. There are a lot of good players on console but I'm talking mainly about the console gamers who are new to mmo's like ESO. I'm sure the PC players with a background in mmo's who are going to copy over to console will adapt to the changes fine.

Curragraigue

I haven't tried to use the LFG tool since April. What is currently wrong with it?

Curragraigue

Double post

Funkopotamus

ferdiverbeekeb17_ESO2 wrote: »

Funkopotamus wrote: »

There will be a lot of folks using a keyboard honestly.. Just plug one in and go.

Stupid, they will certainly not use a keyboard.

I hope they don't underestimate. I am playing console games for a very long time in my life. Console players group more often and they only use voice chat.

How the hell am I "Stupid"? I played EQOA MMO on console for MANY years and we used a keyboard!! In a group yes sure I would use voice chat, but there will be people that are using the keyboard. If you think otherwise you are either naïve or just "STUPID" as you put it.

If I am in an area and there are 45 people using voice chat at the same time LFG and I see someone using a keyboard and LFG who the hell do YOU think I am going to be able to understand first?

NewBlacksmurf

xCHEMISTx wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

xCHEMISTx wrote: »

The real challenge will be seeing if the console players can actually co-ordinate enough to complete the content in ESO. I think clans and small groups of friends will have a good time on consoles though.

I'll say this again....I and millions of other PC players also own consoles. People who choose a console over a PC are not less competent than someone on PC.

Navigating using a controller is by far more natural than a keyboard. I don't play this on keyboard and have been very successful playing all roles solo and in groups since BETA.

Why do people have a mindset that PC folk or keyboard/mouse is better?

It's not so much that any players are better or worse. There are a lot of good players on console but I'm talking mainly about the console gamers who are new to mmo's like ESO. I'm sure the PC players with a background in mmo's who are going to copy over to console will adapt to the changes fine.

No...people who own consoles also own PC's.
I and tons of ppl who I play with on this game and on Xbox One play MMORPG and play console games...smh

NewBlacksmurf

Curragraigue wrote: »

I haven't tried to use the LFG tool since April. What is currently wrong with it?

The tool never groups anyone for any situation