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The best healers do the best dps now

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Joejudas
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The best healers do the best dps now -___- Temps are the new DKs.
  • Rodario
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    'bout time! PALLY POWER!!!

    Seriously though, would you like to provide some calculations, or at least anecdotal evidence to support this claim?
    Edited by Rodario on January 29, 2015 10:40AM
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  • Joejudas
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nECEhg8zeE

    only cause im lazy....i posted the video. i tested it its really gnarly
  • Digiman
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    Would like to see video of cloth based sorcerers with destruction staff... they still exist?
  • fromtesonlineb16_ESO
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    Joejudas wrote: »
    only cause im lazy....i posted the video. i tested it its really gnarly
    Proves nothing, as usual, without any valid comparison your post comes over as just a DK whose raging about their loss of OPness.
  • Dracane
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    Digiman wrote: »
    Would like to see video of cloth based sorcerers with destruction staff... they still exist?

    Yea, but they I doubt, they are strong.
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  • timidobserver
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    Joejudas wrote: »
    The best healers do the best dps now -___- Temps are the new DKs.

    Skoria DKs and potion power bow NB will still out sustain a temp.
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  • Stumkrav
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    They deserve it.
  • ThatNeonZebraAgain
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    timidobserver wrote: »
    potion power bow NB will still out sustain a temp.

    Not with 1.6 since they took away NB and Argonian passives that increase potion effectiveness.
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  • Raghul
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    radiant destruction is to easily interrupted, it's a channel ability, it should be good damage.

    and the damage is nothing better then any other finishing move
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  • SanderBuraas
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    Raghul wrote: »
    radiant destruction is to easily interrupted, it's a channel ability, it should be good damage.

    and the damage is nothing better then any other finishing move

    The ability is stronger than an ultimate, and you can use it consistenly. Even if you get interrupted using it, the Templar can simply move on to the other plethora of powerful spells they have to use - and not to mention the best heal in the game.
  • Feidam
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    In the video he is using an execute as an execute and calling it op.
  • Naivefanboi
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    Joejudas wrote: »
    The best healers do the best dps now -___- Temps are the new DKs.

    yay my time finally came, but we cant be dks till we can reflect spam ;p
    so what happens when a templar beams a reflected dk?
    Edited by Naivefanboi on January 29, 2015 6:50PM
  • Lynx7386
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    Feidam wrote: »
    In the video he is using an execute as an execute and calling it op.

    He also talks about how it will be even more OP using a destro staff.

    Deltia is overrated, destro staff has absolutely no impact on class skills, especially since radiant oppression doesnt do elemental damage.
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  • SanderBuraas
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    jjf42001_ESO wrote: »
    Joejudas wrote: »
    The best healers do the best dps now -___- Temps are the new DKs.

    yay my time finally came, but we cant be dks till we can reflect spam ;p
    so what happens when a templar beams a reflected dk?

    The reflect ability has been nerfed slightly, so you can only reflect four spells - and it will only reflect particle spells, so not Radiant Destruction.

    I think that the ability would not have been overpowered if the class was not already very powerful, but as Templars were doing great before the latest update, it doesn't make sense that they recieve this new spell.
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    fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »
    Joejudas wrote: »
    only cause im lazy....i posted the video. i tested it its really gnarly
    Proves nothing, as usual, without any valid comparison your post comes over as just a DK whose raging about their loss of OPness.

    Ok so once again like usual your making this about me....but im sure like a week after 1.6 goes like you will tell someone " stop crying and saying temps are op". Temps do deserve to have a viable dps build finally....I just point it out because it seems a bit stronger than ZOS probably intended
  • rophez_ESO
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    That execute is certainly a lot nicer than the one they gave DKs.. coupled with all the DK nerfs, I think you might be right about templar being the new uber. ;)
  • Stumkrav
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    rophez_ESO wrote: »
    That execute is certainly a lot nicer than the one they gave DKs.. coupled with all the DK nerfs, I think you might be right about templar being the new uber. ;)

    Well still better than the NB newest skill.... 8 attacks to activate, hahaha... what kind of joke is that? I will never ise it on PVP :/
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    ThatNeonZebraAgain wrote: »
    timidobserver wrote: »
    potion power bow NB will still out sustain a temp.

    Not with 1.6 since they took away NB and Argonian passives that increase potion effectiveness.

    I have seen a bow NB sustain 18k dps. Im not seeing any Templar doing that.
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    V16 Jed I Nyte EP Stamina NB(retired)

  • radiostar
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    why somebody want to keep a good Temp down? LOL
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  • AriBoh
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    And the best tanks used to do the best dps before, whats your point?
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  • Feidam
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    My sorc's execute can do the same amount of damage as the templar's new execute and his splashes aoe on top of it, can proc instant crystal frags and can not interrupted. People just are not used to temps executing them. The new skill is a very nice addition for templars.
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    Feidam wrote: »
    My sorc's execute can do the same amount of damage as the templar's new execute and his splashes aoe on top of it, can proc instant crystal frags and can not interrupted. People just are not used to temps executing them. The new skill is a very nice addition for templars.

    Totally, agree.

    Anything new and different is basically labelled overpowered by someone these days. It certainly doesn't mean it is though, as they often fail to properly look at all the factors involved.
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    Joejudas wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nECEhg8zeE

    only cause im lazy....i posted the video. i tested it its really gnarly

    this video is clearly from the perspective of someone who primarily PVPs. Temp dps FOR PVE is better, but still not as good as other classes, at least from my testing.
    Edited by grimsfield on January 29, 2015 9:02PM
  • Woolenthreads
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    Do they do the best at DPS if you concentrate on being a healer? Or are you merely saying that one set of grouped skills is now better for DPS than the other three set of grouped skills?
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  • Feidam
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    A they are stating templar's are a good dps now. People still seem to think Templar equals heals
  • Joejudas
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    im not saying its a bad thing...and its the pts so it could change. If they made dks dps worse but made temps better....than we will bring more temps on end game raids to balance it out...meaning its not a bad thing. im not demonizing the new temp dps...sorry if i came off that way lol
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    Raghul wrote: »
    radiant destruction is to easily interrupted, it's a channel ability, it should be good damage.

    and the damage is nothing better then any other finishing move

    And it shoots through walls when you tab target.

    Needs some attention methinks.
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  • ashlee17
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    My main is a Templar. I'll be happy to be able to do better dps now.

    My dream is that zos introduce more non class based heals so Templars can have some fun filling other roles more regularly. Until other classes have acess to more group heals I'll still be cornered into healing pve for the foreseeable future.
    Edited by ashlee17 on January 30, 2015 2:50PM
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  • Feidam
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    ashlee17 wrote: »
    My main is a Templar. I be happy to be able to do better dps now.

    My dream is that zos introduce more non class based heals so Templars can have some fun filling other roles more regularly. Until other classes have acess to more group heals I'll still be cornered into healing pve for the foreseeable future.

    I could be wrong, but I don't think so. The resto staff is buffed with all the changes and performing just as well as the Templar. Players will of course have to change their mindset.
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    Pretty sure templar will still have the lowest sustained dps out of all classes when 1.6 goes live. No worries.

    About Radiant Destruction, it's clearly bugged on PTS and will never reach live. It start doing execute dmg for me already around 80-90% health lol. Fun as hell, but dont expect it to last.

    If it actually worked as indented, it would most likely be a dps loss in PvE due to the the 1-1.5 sec delay before the channeling starts. Oh and Toppling Charge still comes with that annoying ability cool-down freeze :tired_face:
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