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500 Million to make ESO
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Apparently this was the cost of developing ESO, anyone know what they spent it on?
If real life had a block function i would go out more.
Proud to have spent a year paying to BETA test ESO for consoles.
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✭egosumacunnus wrote: »Apparently this was the cost of developing ESO, anyone know what they spent it on?
Fact: The most expensive game ever made is Destiny which cost 500 million dollars. ESO is not even in the top 10. OP is FoS.Edited by SFBryan18 on January 24, 2015 5:45PM7 -
Bloodfang✭✭✭✭✭egosumacunnus wrote: »Apparently this was the cost of developing ESO, anyone know what they spent it on?
Fact: The most expensive game ever made is Destiny which cost 500 million dollars. ESO is not even in the top 10. OP is FoS.
Destiny was 350+ mil just marketing.
ESO didn't cost 100mil.0 -
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✭✭Detailed numbers here.
You can find some info on their FAQ and in their own press release about the first $300 million investment that they received from Providence Equity Partners in 2007.
In 2010 they got an extra $150 million from the same investors, announced here on their website.
Who's FoS now @SFBryan18?
Edited by Gyudan on January 24, 2015 5:57PMWololo.12 -
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✭Detailed numbers here.
You can find some info on their FAQ and in their own press release about the first $300 million investment that they received from Providence Equity Partners in 2007.
In 2010 they got an extra $150 million from the same investors, announced here on their website.
Neither of those says anything about the money being for ESO. They are a big company.Edited by SFBryan18 on January 24, 2015 5:57PM4 -
Naivefanboi✭✭✭✭egosumacunnus wrote: »Apparently this was the cost of developing ESO, anyone know what they spent it on?
Fact: The most expensive game ever made is Destiny which cost 500 million dollars. ESO is not even in the top 10. OP is FoS.
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✭Until you provide an actual source that doesn't rely on speculation there is no reason for anyone to believe this game cost 500m1 -
TheLaw✭✭✭✭The rumor mill...Edited by TheLaw on January 24, 2015 8:11PM-= Shahrzad the Great |Sorc| =-0 -
Dave2836✭✭✭Unfortunately, ZOS is a company based in a country with a high standard of living and as such required specialized professionals to continue operations. For those of you who have never seen an electric bill for a company, let me tell you they charge a VERY different rate of kilowatts/hr.2
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Quintal✭✭✭''ZeniMax Media recently announced a $300 million investment from Providence Equity Partners, and of course the massive success of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion and Fallout 3 only adds to the assets that helped fund ZeniMax Online. Suffice it to say, we're covered.''
Source: zenimaxonline.com/faq.html''Subscription fee means that we will offer players the game we set out to make, and the one that fans want to play. Going with any other model meant that we would have to make sacrifices and changes we weren't willing to make.''-Matt FirorNick Konkle no longer part of ZOSMaria Aliprando no longer part of ZOSPaul Sage no longer part of ZOS3 -
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✭✭jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Guy has a point Zenimax is more than just ESO.
true ... except ZOS specifically refers to this 300$ million investment in their own FAQ that I mentioned above and got LOLed for.How are you paying for this?
ZeniMax Media recently announced a $300 million investment from Providence Equity Partners, and of course the massive success of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion and Fallout 3 only adds to the assets that helped fund ZeniMax Online. Suffice it to say, we're covered.
Maybe they're "covered" in debt now.
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eisberg✭✭✭jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Guy has a point Zenimax is more than just ESO.
true ... except ZOS specifically refers to this 300$ million investment in their own FAQ that I mentioned above and got LOLed for.How are you paying for this?
ZeniMax Media recently announced a $300 million investment from Providence Equity Partners, and of course the massive success of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion and Fallout 3 only adds to the assets that helped fund ZeniMax Online. Suffice it to say, we're covered.
Maybe they're "covered" in debt now.
that does not mean that Zenimax media invested all that money into
Zenimax online into this game. it just means that they have a parent company that has a lot of money to fund themit is pure speculation to say that they would give them all that money
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Kharnis✭✭✭jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Guy has a point Zenimax is more than just ESO.
true ... except ZOS specifically refers to this 300$ million investment in their own FAQ that I mentioned above and got LOLed for.How are you paying for this?
ZeniMax Media recently announced a $300 million investment from Providence Equity Partners, and of course the massive success of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion and Fallout 3 only adds to the assets that helped fund ZeniMax Online. Suffice it to say, we're covered.
Maybe they're "covered" in debt now.
Did you bother to follow the link in that answer you quoted? Had you done so, you would have discovered this little piece of info:Rockville, MD, October 25, 2007 – ZeniMax Media Inc. today announced the closing of a $300 million investment by Providence Equity Partners Inc. for convertible preferred stock of the Company. The proceeds of the investment will be used to fund future growth, increase game development and publishing, facilitate acquisitions, and finance massively multiplayer online games (MMOGs).
ZeniMax Media was founded in 1999 by Robert A. Altman, its Chairman and CEO, and through wholly owned subsidiaries creates and publishes original interactive entertainment content for gaming consoles (including the Xbox 360™ video game and entertainment system from Microsoft, the PLAYSTATION®3 computer entertainment system, and the Nintendo DS and Wii), the PC, handheld/wireless devices, and online gaming. Last year its wholly owned subsidiary, Bethesda Softworks, released The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion®which was voted Best Game of 2006. Bethesda’s upcoming title, Fallout® 3, has already been featured on the cover of more than 20 magazines worldwide and has won accolades as one of most anticipated games for 2008.
"We believe that Providence will be an ideal partner for us as we build our businesses worldwide in the years ahead. Providence shares our strategic vision for the Company and is excited by the opportunity to help us move into a position of leadership in this industry,” said Mr. Altman.
“We are pleased to partner with one of the best managed companies in the videogame industry,” said Michael Dominguez, a Managing Director of Providence. “ZeniMax Media has an outstanding series of proven interactive entertainment content and a burgeoning position in the rapidly growing global video game market. We look forward to working with Robert to build value at ZeniMax Media over the long-term.”
Note the bolded."Technology today is a race between engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof devices, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning."
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grimjim398✭✭✭It does let you know one of the parties behind the scenes wanting to see a faster return on their investment, of course.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Guy has a point Zenimax is more than just ESO.
true ... except ZOS specifically refers to this 300$ million investment in their own FAQ that I mentioned above and got LOLed for.How are you paying for this?
ZeniMax Media recently announced a $300 million investment from Providence Equity Partners, and of course the massive success of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion and Fallout 3 only adds to the assets that helped fund ZeniMax Online. Suffice it to say, we're covered.
Maybe they're "covered" in debt now.
Did you bother to follow the link in that answer you quoted? Had you done so, you would have discovered this little piece of info:Rockville, MD, October 25, 2007 – ZeniMax Media Inc. today announced the closing of a $300 million investment by Providence Equity Partners Inc. for convertible preferred stock of the Company. The proceeds of the investment will be used to fund future growth, increase game development and publishing, facilitate acquisitions, and finance massively multiplayer online games (MMOGs).
ZeniMax Media was founded in 1999 by Robert A. Altman, its Chairman and CEO, and through wholly owned subsidiaries creates and publishes original interactive entertainment content for gaming consoles (including the Xbox 360™ video game and entertainment system from Microsoft, the PLAYSTATION®3 computer entertainment system, and the Nintendo DS and Wii), the PC, handheld/wireless devices, and online gaming. Last year its wholly owned subsidiary, Bethesda Softworks, released The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion®which was voted Best Game of 2006. Bethesda’s upcoming title, Fallout® 3, has already been featured on the cover of more than 20 magazines worldwide and has won accolades as one of most anticipated games for 2008.
"We believe that Providence will be an ideal partner for us as we build our businesses worldwide in the years ahead. Providence shares our strategic vision for the Company and is excited by the opportunity to help us move into a position of leadership in this industry,” said Mr. Altman.
“We are pleased to partner with one of the best managed companies in the videogame industry,” said Michael Dominguez, a Managing Director of Providence. “ZeniMax Media has an outstanding series of proven interactive entertainment content and a burgeoning position in the rapidly growing global video game market. We look forward to working with Robert to build value at ZeniMax Media over the long-term.”
Note the bolded.
You are aware that Bethesda Softworks has other online games in the works, right?0 -
Kharnis✭✭✭lordrichter wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Guy has a point Zenimax is more than just ESO.
true ... except ZOS specifically refers to this 300$ million investment in their own FAQ that I mentioned above and got LOLed for.How are you paying for this?
ZeniMax Media recently announced a $300 million investment from Providence Equity Partners, and of course the massive success of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion and Fallout 3 only adds to the assets that helped fund ZeniMax Online. Suffice it to say, we're covered.
Maybe they're "covered" in debt now.
Did you bother to follow the link in that answer you quoted? Had you done so, you would have discovered this little piece of info:Rockville, MD, October 25, 2007 – ZeniMax Media Inc. today announced the closing of a $300 million investment by Providence Equity Partners Inc. for convertible preferred stock of the Company. The proceeds of the investment will be used to fund future growth, increase game development and publishing, facilitate acquisitions, and finance massively multiplayer online games (MMOGs).
ZeniMax Media was founded in 1999 by Robert A. Altman, its Chairman and CEO, and through wholly owned subsidiaries creates and publishes original interactive entertainment content for gaming consoles (including the Xbox 360™ video game and entertainment system from Microsoft, the PLAYSTATION®3 computer entertainment system, and the Nintendo DS and Wii), the PC, handheld/wireless devices, and online gaming. Last year its wholly owned subsidiary, Bethesda Softworks, released The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion®which was voted Best Game of 2006. Bethesda’s upcoming title, Fallout® 3, has already been featured on the cover of more than 20 magazines worldwide and has won accolades as one of most anticipated games for 2008.
"We believe that Providence will be an ideal partner for us as we build our businesses worldwide in the years ahead. Providence shares our strategic vision for the Company and is excited by the opportunity to help us move into a position of leadership in this industry,” said Mr. Altman.
“We are pleased to partner with one of the best managed companies in the videogame industry,” said Michael Dominguez, a Managing Director of Providence. “ZeniMax Media has an outstanding series of proven interactive entertainment content and a burgeoning position in the rapidly growing global video game market. We look forward to working with Robert to build value at ZeniMax Media over the long-term.”
Note the bolded.
You are aware that Bethesda Softworks has other online games in the works, right?
And that has what to do with Zenimax Online Studios' mission goals and the reason they had Providence Equity invest in them?"Technology today is a race between engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof devices, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning."
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✭✭✭✭✭lordrichter wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Guy has a point Zenimax is more than just ESO.
true ... except ZOS specifically refers to this 300$ million investment in their own FAQ that I mentioned above and got LOLed for.How are you paying for this?
ZeniMax Media recently announced a $300 million investment from Providence Equity Partners, and of course the massive success of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion and Fallout 3 only adds to the assets that helped fund ZeniMax Online. Suffice it to say, we're covered.
Maybe they're "covered" in debt now.
Did you bother to follow the link in that answer you quoted? Had you done so, you would have discovered this little piece of info:Rockville, MD, October 25, 2007 – ZeniMax Media Inc. today announced the closing of a $300 million investment by Providence Equity Partners Inc. for convertible preferred stock of the Company. The proceeds of the investment will be used to fund future growth, increase game development and publishing, facilitate acquisitions, and finance massively multiplayer online games (MMOGs).
ZeniMax Media was founded in 1999 by Robert A. Altman, its Chairman and CEO, and through wholly owned subsidiaries creates and publishes original interactive entertainment content for gaming consoles (including the Xbox 360™ video game and entertainment system from Microsoft, the PLAYSTATION®3 computer entertainment system, and the Nintendo DS and Wii), the PC, handheld/wireless devices, and online gaming. Last year its wholly owned subsidiary, Bethesda Softworks, released The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion®which was voted Best Game of 2006. Bethesda’s upcoming title, Fallout® 3, has already been featured on the cover of more than 20 magazines worldwide and has won accolades as one of most anticipated games for 2008.
"We believe that Providence will be an ideal partner for us as we build our businesses worldwide in the years ahead. Providence shares our strategic vision for the Company and is excited by the opportunity to help us move into a position of leadership in this industry,” said Mr. Altman.
“We are pleased to partner with one of the best managed companies in the videogame industry,” said Michael Dominguez, a Managing Director of Providence. “ZeniMax Media has an outstanding series of proven interactive entertainment content and a burgeoning position in the rapidly growing global video game market. We look forward to working with Robert to build value at ZeniMax Media over the long-term.”
Note the bolded.
You are aware that Bethesda Softworks has other online games in the works, right?
And that has what to do with Zenimax Online Studios' mission goals and the reason they had Providence Equity invest in them?
Because the money was given to ZeniMax Media, not the ZeniMax Online Studios. I doubt that ZOS got the entire 300 million.
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RedTalon✭✭✭✭✭''ZeniMax Media recently announced a $300 million investment from Providence Equity Partners, and of course the massive success of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion and Fallout 3 only adds to the assets that helped fund ZeniMax Online. Suffice it to say, we're covered.''
Source: zenimaxonline.com/faq.html
Without an extact amount of how much went into the online branch and for what extactly, ZOS was not only set up to produce ESO but was meant to produce other online games also and if you break down the costs, new building bought or rent for ZOS, Staff Hired, Gear Bought, Base Software and so on, its not all directly connected to ESO just ESO is probbly is the first and last game by ZOS unless fallout online is done. Since battlecry is being done by another studio.
ZeniMax Media has many different arms to it not just ZOS that could just be overall investment number not how much ZOS got directly
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Tamanous✭✭✭✭✭People really need to stop posting stoned.
When the rumor started a long time ago at $200 million there was someone who then posted the cost was $300 and his defense of it was that "$300 million isn't much different than $200 million".
SAY WHAT?!
So if I give you $100 million dollars and then take it away you won't notice the difference? Most here likely don't even know what it feels like to have more than 4 digits in their bank accounts. If you spend over 50% of your net worth on a video card for your computer PLEASE stop talking about corporate level investments ... PLEASE!2 -
RedTalon✭✭✭✭✭To give people an idea of what all the main corp controls and how that investment money could spread out over many different things...read up on the corp.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZeniMax_Media
Oooh a new studio also, battlecry studios hmm
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RedTalon✭✭✭✭✭clocksstoppe wrote: »
Its very easy to assume that based on how that statement is presented that all the money went to zos and zos only used it for eso...but people are discounting all the other costs asscoited with setting up a new subsidiary. But very easy to forget that office space costs money, hiring people to direct things cost money, paying a retainer fee has part of a contract for a lead and anything that might have been required to get things going, is all part of the well funded statement. Can't be cheap to start a new thing and those are examples of possible costs.
Just my two crowns on the matter
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Okay, I see what you're saying now. I'm thinking that two cups of coffee this morning wasn't quite enough for me.lordrichter wrote: »lordrichter wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Guy has a point Zenimax is more than just ESO.
true ... except ZOS specifically refers to this 300$ million investment in their own FAQ that I mentioned above and got LOLed for.How are you paying for this?
ZeniMax Media recently announced a $300 million investment from Providence Equity Partners, and of course the massive success of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion and Fallout 3 only adds to the assets that helped fund ZeniMax Online. Suffice it to say, we're covered.
Maybe they're "covered" in debt now.
Did you bother to follow the link in that answer you quoted? Had you done so, you would have discovered this little piece of info:Rockville, MD, October 25, 2007 – ZeniMax Media Inc. today announced the closing of a $300 million investment by Providence Equity Partners Inc. for convertible preferred stock of the Company. The proceeds of the investment will be used to fund future growth, increase game development and publishing, facilitate acquisitions, and finance massively multiplayer online games (MMOGs).
ZeniMax Media was founded in 1999 by Robert A. Altman, its Chairman and CEO, and through wholly owned subsidiaries creates and publishes original interactive entertainment content for gaming consoles (including the Xbox 360™ video game and entertainment system from Microsoft, the PLAYSTATION®3 computer entertainment system, and the Nintendo DS and Wii), the PC, handheld/wireless devices, and online gaming. Last year its wholly owned subsidiary, Bethesda Softworks, released The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion®which was voted Best Game of 2006. Bethesda’s upcoming title, Fallout® 3, has already been featured on the cover of more than 20 magazines worldwide and has won accolades as one of most anticipated games for 2008.
"We believe that Providence will be an ideal partner for us as we build our businesses worldwide in the years ahead. Providence shares our strategic vision for the Company and is excited by the opportunity to help us move into a position of leadership in this industry,” said Mr. Altman.
“We are pleased to partner with one of the best managed companies in the videogame industry,” said Michael Dominguez, a Managing Director of Providence. “ZeniMax Media has an outstanding series of proven interactive entertainment content and a burgeoning position in the rapidly growing global video game market. We look forward to working with Robert to build value at ZeniMax Media over the long-term.”
Note the bolded.
You are aware that Bethesda Softworks has other online games in the works, right?
And that has what to do with Zenimax Online Studios' mission goals and the reason they had Providence Equity invest in them?
Because the money was given to ZeniMax Media, not the ZeniMax Online Studios. I doubt that ZOS got the entire 300 million.clocksstoppe wrote: »
Um...what? I bolded that part specifically to show you that this game didn't cost three hundred million dollars like you claimed, but that the money was going into setting up Zenimax Online Studios, and all current and future projects. Where are you getting that I assume they only did one thing?"Technology today is a race between engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof devices, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning."
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