SINISTERS WEEKLY RANT

SIN-X · January 2015

ok so I will start with "we told you it was coming" and move on to some bigger concerns other than yet another deception for Zos. I really didn't want to see the game go this way but now that it has some important questions will arise I believe need addressed.
1. Since its b2p not f2p its ok right? NO!! the difference is that B2P you have to pay for the game and any content that they deem fit. In truth B2p is almost worse in the fact that as you move along you will see less people in DLC zones as they don't want to pay for it then you would in a F2p, thus making those who already starve for groups even more at a loss.

2.As long as the crown store is just the pots and costumes it will be fine yes?
NO!! crown store is a CASH store and as such by nature of the beast its there to generate CASH. Expect to find less in game dedication and more development spent into what can be sold to make a profit. If you pay attention to the twitter cast they make a big point to say that there is a grey area and you should expect it to be crossed. Also they did say that there will be armor sets sold but not as good as those that can be crafted. Do you trust them to decide based on their internal tests what top dps players use? Doesn't seem to have worked so far.

3.Console players will make up for the loss of any pc players that leave right?
Probably not. I imagine a large amount of players will have issue with this transition and as we saw with the champ point issue when the main body of hardcore players didn't agree with the change and left it was a big enough impact for a redirect of that system and this to some will just be the last push they needed. If the impact was that large then what effect do foresee.

4.They said in the twitter that this revenue change was a result of what the player base wanted so the impact will be small? I would have to go back thru the forums to find these elusive posts in the number that it seems they are implying that would lead them to this choice but I have not seen them yet.

5.The ESO fans are so many that this wont be an issue? In the words of molag ball "TELL YOURSELF ANOTHER LIE". A lot of games with huge fan base have fallen before and Star Trek and Star Wars are solid examples of this, Eso has not the fan base of either of those regardless of what you may think or your personal feeling towards any of the 3 are.

To sum it up I will say that "IF" they can keep the armor, weps and anything that is directly used in game out of it besides pets/mounts then it will have a chance but I imagine it will not be to long before you see things like mount achievements or collection achievements requiring the players who seek that sort of goal to pay. A cash store should be simple vanity and if it has any link to any form of achievements ,dyes, armor, weps or any such thing then it is PAY TO WIN.
Also the creation of a ZOS sponsored thread of crown store wish list would seem abit on the tell me what your willing to pay for.

Gorthax · January 2015

love it. everything that is wrong with what they are doing is described here with reasoning as to why. Call it a doom and gloom outlook, but look at every other game that has went down this road after being a sub based game. It never turned out pretty for them.

Morthur · January 2015

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Bars · January 2015

so will we have lock boxes in cash shop ? , if they are this game is circling the drain

SIN-X · January 2015

Thanks guys sorry it wasn't more my ranting style

jopeymonster · January 2015

Bars wrote: »

so will we have lock boxes in cash shop ? , if they are this game is circling the drain

Gina quoted on Reddit:
"We don't have any plans to add locked RNG boxes.

"

also, on buying CPs:
"That does not (and will not) exist."

http://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/2t6g9i/please_no_locked_rng_boxes/

But hey, they could've told @ZOS_GinaBruno‌ the wrong thing again...

(not your fault Gina, <3u, keep up the good work)

OrangeTheCat · January 2015

And we continue to believe what ZOS says? Really?

SIN-X · January 2015

yea its kinda funny all the people who now have to say "you were right guys" cant seem to understand that we knew it cause we've seen it and now want to argue that the game wont suffer....AGAIN CAUSE WE HAVE SEEN IT!!!

Vyle_Byte · January 2015

SIN-X wrote: »

They said in the twitter that this revenue change was a result of what the player base wanted so the impact will be small? I would have to go back thru the forums to find these elusive posts in the number that it seems they are implying that would lead them to this choice but I have not seen them yet.

I watched part of the twitch stream, about came outta my chair when he looked straight at the camera and LIED saying this is partially in response to what the player base wanted...

Wait, what?!!!!!!!!!! Where the f*** did you get that load of horse manure? In all my time being here, which is since before freakin launch, I've not seen an outcry for B2P/F2P... that is the farthest thing from what we want. Oh, its been voiced alright, but not in that direction.

I am wondering, seriously, where on earth they got that notion. Pulled it straight outta their a** Im guessing.

Valen_Byte · January 2015

Im ready for Elder Scrolls VI...this game is screwed. What really pisses me off is the lies. Matt Fiorerer or what ever his stupid name is, flat out lied...'we did this cause this is what you guys asked for' Really? Cause Ive been here since beta and have never seen anyone ask for this sh.t. How friggin insulting is that?

This is all because of consoles. F..ck consoles. This is a PC game and should stay that way. Cant believe Zos is so chicken sh.t that they wouldnt even stick it out one friggin year.

Bouvin · January 2015

SIN-X wrote: »

5.The ESO fans are so many that this wont be an issue? In the words of molag ball "TELL YOURSELF ANOTHER LIE". A lot of games with huge fan base have fallen before and Star Trek and Star Wars are solid examples of this, Eso has not the fan base of either of those regardless of what you may think or your personal feeling towards any of the 3 are.

Don't forget Lord of the Rings. There are easily as many Lord of the Rings fans as Star Wars.

And F2P killed that game.

Xsorus · January 2015

Bouvin wrote: »

SIN-X wrote: »

5.The ESO fans are so many that this wont be an issue? In the words of molag ball "TELL YOURSELF ANOTHER LIE". A lot of games with huge fan base have fallen before and Star Trek and Star Wars are solid examples of this, Eso has not the fan base of either of those regardless of what you may think or your personal feeling towards any of the 3 are.

Don't forget Lord of the Rings. There are easily as many Lord of the Rings fans as Star Wars.

And F2P killed that game.

I have a Lifetime subscription to LOTRO, if you think F2P killed that game your clearly deluded... the game was on death's door before it went F2P, and that was years ago..It'd ended up like Warhammer Online if it hadn't went f2p.

not that I like their f2p system, but don't be delusional about how that game was or would of ended up.

Valen_Byte · January 2015

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Bouvin wrote: »

SIN-X wrote: »

5.The ESO fans are so many that this wont be an issue? In the words of molag ball "TELL YOURSELF ANOTHER LIE". A lot of games with huge fan base have fallen before and Star Trek and Star Wars are solid examples of this, Eso has not the fan base of either of those regardless of what you may think or your personal feeling towards any of the 3 are.

Don't forget Lord of the Rings. There are easily as many Lord of the Rings fans as Star Wars.

And F2P killed that game.

I have a Lifetime subscription to LOTRO, if you think F2P killed that game your clearly deluded... the game was on death's door before it went F2P, and that was years ago..It'd ended up like Warhammer Online if it hadn't went f2p.

not that I like their f2p system, but don't be delusional about how that game was or would of ended up.

You're forgetting about one thing...LOTRO sucks.