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ZoS explains F2P in twitch stream

Pancake-Tragedy
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Stream is up now.




Just posting this here in case anyone was unaware.
Edited by Pancake-Tragedy on January 21, 2015 5:29PM
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  • hammayolettuce
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    And failed to even mention PvP.
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  • Grim13
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    This may actually save the game. It will bring people unwilling to pay $15 a month back... which can only benefit PvP.

    I just hope it's impetus isn't corporate greed, a la squeezing as much as possible from a dying game, and is instead an attempt to keep it going for the player base's sake.

    (I suppose it could be both).
  • Kraven
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    Grim13 wrote: »
    This may actually save the game. It will bring people unwilling to pay $15 a month back... which can only benefit PvP.

    I just hope it's impetus isn't corporate greed, a la squeezing as much as possible from a dying game, and is instead an attempt to keep it going for the player base's sake.

    (I suppose it could be both).

    LOLOLOLOL
    OMG
    LOLOLOLOL

    PvP is the first to suffer in a F2P/B2P game.
    Instead of AP being sold for gold it's going to be farmed harder and sold for Crown. Turning it into P2W.
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    to be continued... Nevermind, no longer "to be continued"
  • Grim13
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    Ummm, Crowns aren't exchangeable for gold.
    Edited by Grim13 on January 21, 2015 6:00PM
  • Pancake-Tragedy
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    Kraven wrote: »
    Grim13 wrote: »
    This may actually save the game. It will bring people unwilling to pay $15 a month back... which can only benefit PvP.

    I just hope it's impetus isn't corporate greed, a la squeezing as much as possible from a dying game, and is instead an attempt to keep it going for the player base's sake.

    (I suppose it could be both).

    LOLOLOLOL
    OMG
    LOLOLOLOL

    PvP is the first to suffer in a F2P/B2P game.
    Instead of AP being sold for gold it's going to be farmed harder and sold for Crown. Turning it into P2W.

    Apparently the Crown system will be completely isolated to a players account and can't be traded between players. Matt Firor also stressed that crowns cannot be converted into gold.
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  • hammayolettuce
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    Matt Firor also stressed that crowns cannot be converted into gold.

    As a master blacksmith, I beg to differ.
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  • Grim13
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    Matt Firor also stressed that crowns cannot be converted into gold.

    As a master blacksmith, I beg to differ.

    ?
  • Roechacca
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    Gift shop items are always non tradable at first . Till the F2P community cries hard enough . They will be tradable in little time . You can't stop a F2P community once it starts . They will make fun of everyone that ever paid to play this game and demand more and more from ZoS to keep them here "free" . An just like every F2P MMO , ZoS will give in to their demands . Mark my words an check this thread in a year .
    Edited by Roechacca on January 21, 2015 6:35PM
  • Fruitdog
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    We should all just quit now. Roechacca, you go first. We'll be right behind you.
  • hammayolettuce
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    Grim13 wrote: »
    Matt Firor also stressed that crowns cannot be converted into gold.

    As a master blacksmith, I beg to differ.

    ?

    The point is I'm pissed that game mechanics won't allow me to have a high enough proficiency in smithing to be able to convert one form of currency to another. That is literally what I'm actually annoyed with.
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  • Roechacca
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    Fruitdog wrote: »
    We should all just quit now. Roechacca, you go first. We'll be right behind you.

    I'll quit when I'm good and ready . My account is paid up till March from gift cards gifts at Christmas . I already unsubbed my credit card .
  • Darklord_Tiberius
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    roechacca wrote: »
    Gift shop items are always non tradable at first . Till the F2P community cries hard enough . They will be tradable in little time . You can't stop a F2P community once it starts . They will make fun of everyone that ever paid to play this game and demand more and more from ZoS to keep them here "free" . An just like every F2P MMO , ZoS will give in to their demands . Mark my words an check this thread in a year .

    You give this game a year, how generous of you!
  • Roechacca
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    roechacca wrote: »
    Gift shop items are always non tradable at first . Till the F2P community cries hard enough . They will be tradable in little time . You can't stop a F2P community once it starts . They will make fun of everyone that ever paid to play this game and demand more and more from ZoS to keep them here "free" . An just like every F2P MMO , ZoS will give in to their demands . Mark my words an check this thread in a year .

    You give this game a year, how generous of you!

    I give it a year because ZOS is so slow it's gonna take a year to shut it down .
  • Grim13
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    Grim13 wrote: »
    Matt Firor also stressed that crowns cannot be converted into gold.

    As a master blacksmith, I beg to differ.

    ?

    The point is I'm pissed that game mechanics won't allow me to have a high enough proficiency in smithing to be able to convert one form of currency to another. That is literally what I'm actually annoyed with.

    So than you admit you're wrong...
  • hammayolettuce
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    Grim13 wrote: »
    Grim13 wrote: »
    Matt Firor also stressed that crowns cannot be converted into gold.

    As a master blacksmith, I beg to differ.

    ?

    The point is I'm pissed that game mechanics won't allow me to have a high enough proficiency in smithing to be able to convert one form of currency to another. That is literally what I'm actually annoyed with.

    So than you admit you're wrong...

    No, why would I admit to something like that? I guess there's no point to being sarcastic on the internet if people are going to be willfully oblivious to it.
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  • Pancake-Tragedy
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    Grim13 wrote: »
    Grim13 wrote: »
    Matt Firor also stressed that crowns cannot be converted into gold.

    As a master blacksmith, I beg to differ.

    ?

    The point is I'm pissed that game mechanics won't allow me to have a high enough proficiency in smithing to be able to convert one form of currency to another. That is literally what I'm actually annoyed with.

    So than you admit you're wrong...

    No, why would I admit to something like that? I guess there's no point to being sarcastic on the internet if people are going to be willfully oblivious to it.

    You didn't use the sarcasm font.
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  • hammayolettuce
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    Grim13 wrote: »
    Grim13 wrote: »
    Matt Firor also stressed that crowns cannot be converted into gold.

    As a master blacksmith, I beg to differ.

    ?

    The point is I'm pissed that game mechanics won't allow me to have a high enough proficiency in smithing to be able to convert one form of currency to another. That is literally what I'm actually annoyed with.

    So than you admit you're wrong...

    No, why would I admit to something like that? I guess there's no point to being sarcastic on the internet if people are going to be willfully oblivious to it.

    You didn't use the sarcasm font.

    *looks for font*
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  • Grim13
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    Grim13 wrote: »
    Grim13 wrote: »
    Matt Firor also stressed that crowns cannot be converted into gold.

    As a master blacksmith, I beg to differ.

    ?

    The point is I'm pissed that game mechanics won't allow me to have a high enough proficiency in smithing to be able to convert one form of currency to another. That is literally what I'm actually annoyed with.

    So than you admit you're wrong...

    No, why would I admit to something like that? I guess there's no point to being sarcastic on the internet if people are going to be willfully oblivious to it.

    lol "willfully oblivious" to something known to be poorly transferred via text.

    Type a poorly thought out response... claim it was sarcasm when called on it.

    failed_stamp.gif
    Edited by Grim13 on January 21, 2015 7:33PM
  • adamastorx
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    Grim13 wrote: »
    Matt Firor also stressed that crowns cannot be converted into gold.

    As a master blacksmith, I beg to differ.

    ?
    It was a joke. :smiley:
  • Grim13
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    adamastorx wrote: »
    Grim13 wrote: »
    Matt Firor also stressed that crowns cannot be converted into gold.

    As a master blacksmith, I beg to differ.

    ?
    It was a joke. :smiley:

    ..than he's not very funny, is he.
  • hammayolettuce
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    Grim13 wrote: »
    Grim13 wrote: »
    Grim13 wrote: »
    Matt Firor also stressed that crowns cannot be converted into gold.

    As a master blacksmith, I beg to differ.

    ?

    The point is I'm pissed that game mechanics won't allow me to have a high enough proficiency in smithing to be able to convert one form of currency to another. That is literally what I'm actually annoyed with.

    So than you admit you're wrong...

    No, why would I admit to something like that? I guess there's no point to being sarcastic on the internet if people are going to be willfully oblivious to it.

    lol "willfully oblivious" to something known to be poorly transferred via text.

    Type a poorly thought out response... claim it was sarcasm when called on it.

    failed_stamp.gif

    q3ohLtD.gif
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  • Grim13
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    Grim13 wrote: »
    Grim13 wrote: »
    Grim13 wrote: »
    Matt Firor also stressed that crowns cannot be converted into gold.

    As a master blacksmith, I beg to differ.

    ?

    The point is I'm pissed that game mechanics won't allow me to have a high enough proficiency in smithing to be able to convert one form of currency to another. That is literally what I'm actually annoyed with.

    So than you admit you're wrong...

    No, why would I admit to something like that? I guess there's no point to being sarcastic on the internet if people are going to be willfully oblivious to it.

    lol "willfully oblivious" to something known to be poorly transferred via text.

    Type a poorly thought out response... claim it was sarcasm when called on it.

    failed_stamp.gif

    q3ohLtD.gif

    Nah, just bored.
  • Junipus
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    Grim13 wrote: »
    Matt Firor also stressed that crowns cannot be converted into gold.

    As a master blacksmith, I beg to differ.

    ?

    The point is I'm pissed that game mechanics won't allow me to have a high enough proficiency in smithing to be able to convert one form of currency to another. That is literally what I'm actually annoyed with.

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  • AbraXuSeXile
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    Well if profits drop due to b2p then the suits will force devs into p2w no matter what the devs say.
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  • Bouvin
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    Matt Firor also stressed that crowns cannot be converted into gold.

    As a master blacksmith, I beg to differ.

    Having 50 in all crafting skills, I also beg to differ.

    The reason Tri-Pots sell for 13k a stack is flowers you need to make them go for 150-200 gold.

    As soon as I can buy those mats with crowns, then sell the pots I'm essentially turning crowns into gold.

    I guess they didn't think this all through very well when they made the "crowns can't get turned into gold" statement.
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    Fruitdog wrote: »
    We should all just quit now. Roechacca, you go first. We'll be right behind you.

    This is close to be being my favorite post ever. ;)
    Been here since Feb 2014 - You'd think I'd be half reasonable at this game by now...

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  • Subtomik
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    Bouvin wrote: »
    Matt Firor also stressed that crowns cannot be converted into gold.

    As a master blacksmith, I beg to differ.

    Having 50 in all crafting skills, I also beg to differ.

    The reason Tri-Pots sell for 13k a stack is flowers you need to make them go for 150-200 gold.

    As soon as I can buy those mats with crowns, then sell the pots I'm essentially turning crowns into gold.

    I guess they didn't think this all through very well when they made the "crowns can't get turned into gold" statement.

    The didn't say anything about mats and said the potions would be inferior to player made.
  • Roechacca
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    If ZOS said I was cool , I'd still go out and three reliable sources to confirm it at this point ...
  • CrazedDark
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    roechacca wrote: »
    If ZOS said I was cool , I'd still go out and three reliable sources to confirm it at this point ...

    Someone needs a hug. :open_mouth:
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