Crowning emp should be a 24hr process

badmojo

Capturing all the imperial keeps should depose the current emperor. But, your factions top player should only become the future emperor at that moment. The actual crowning of the new emperor happens exactly 24 hours after the last one was deposed. Unless of course the faction loses all the imperial keeps before that can happen.

It's just my opinion that the time between pushing for emp and actually crowing is way too short and doesn't encourage prolonged fighting for the throne. Also, it's my opinion that if your faction can't hold at least one imperial keep for 24 hours, you don't deserve to become emperor/empress.

Another thing this might help is night capping. I understand players shouldn't be punished for playing during off hours, but they also shouldn't reap huge benefits for it either. If a group wants to push for emp at 5-9am while a lot of people are sleeping, then I should be entitled to defend it at whatever time I decide. A 24 hour delay would mean everyone can contribute to the assault or defense no matter what time of day they are active.

It's like how when you assault a keep, if you capture the farm, the keep doesn't instantly lose the upgrades that farm has provided, there is a delay so the owners of the keep can respond and recapture it. The 24hour delay would allow everyone in a campaign to get in on the action and help crown or depose a future emperor.

ToRelax

If it was to do something against emp farming you could say no ex buffs and title unless you hold emp 24 h.
But currently emp can be a strong power to help one faction fighting the two others at once, wich they'll have to do once they got emp (or "future emp").
Reading your comment it sounds to me as if emp should only be some accomplishment you can be proud of later rather than actually worth taking to strenghten your faction.

badmojo

ToRelax wrote: »

If it was to do something against emp farming you could say no ex buffs and title unless you hold emp 24 h.
But currently emp can be a strong power to help one faction fighting the two others at once, wich they'll have to do once they got emp (or "future emp").
Reading your comment it sounds to me as if emp should only be some accomplishment you can be proud of later rather than actually worth taking to strenghten your faction.

That's a fair point. What if the future emp status came with the ability to buff one of the imperial keeps? The future emp could go to a siege merchant and claim that keep as the Emperors keep, giving the keep a lot of extra "Royal Guard" npcs or something else to make it harder to capture & easier to defend. Claiming another keep as the emperors keep would have a 1 hour cool down to prevent the buff from being swapped to whatever keep goes under attack, but it would still allow the buff to be moved to the next keep, if the Emp keep was lost.

ItsMeToo

There is no such thing as night capping. People play at different times. Your night might be their day. The use of night capping should be dropped. It infers that the people doing it are doing it to cause grief to others.

ToRelax

ItsMeToo wrote: »

There is no such thing as night capping. People play at different times. Your night might be their day. The use of night capping should be dropped. It infers that the people doing it are doing it to cause grief to others.

I night capped, too.

There you have it.

Asgari

No.

Sanct16

It is impossible to hold emp for 24h on thorn when both opposing factiona try to dethrone you. The flags of the last keep will just flip in lag with noone taking damage.

Lhorion

24h might be a long time (there is a 5 and a 7 day campagn). Maybe 8 or 12 hours? It would hellp that night capping would not be as attractive as it is now. And it would also give the chance to crown an emperor on one day.

Sanct16

Leave it as it is. Let that emperor guy have some hours of fun. Already hard enough to get it.
People nightcap for scoring not for emperor anyway.

Lhorion

Sanct16 wrote: »

Leave it as it is. Let that emperor guy have some hours of fun. Already hard enough to get it.
People nightcap for scoring not for emperor anyway.

for both

badmojo

Sanct16 wrote: »

It is impossible to hold emp for 24h on thorn when both opposing factiona try to dethrone you. The flags of the last keep will just flip in lag with noone taking damage.

By all means, let's base everything off of a broken laggy thornblade, I'm sure that'll make the game awesome!

Sanct16

badmojo wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

It is impossible to hold emp for 24h on thorn when both opposing factiona try to dethrone you. The flags of the last keep will just flip in lag with noone taking damage.

By all means, let's base everything off of a broken laggy thornblade, I'm sure that'll make the game awesome!

Yes. It is the most populated campaign and the only one that is competitive. All other servers are dominated by one faction.

Firellight

I'm all for longer lasting PvP progression such as 24 hours to crown an emperor. We never have any time for a coronation ceremony! It's a game, but seeing daily emps doesn't help much. However, finding a solution to make it work might take an unnecessary amount of time.

I think that if PvP were to have socially-structured, longer-lasting emperor terms, it would require a lot of changes to the core of the game.

badmojo

ItsMeToo wrote: »

There is no such thing as night capping. People play at different times. Your night might be their day. The use of night capping should be dropped. It infers that the people doing it are doing it to cause grief to others.

There is indeed night capping. It has happened on NA Chillrend at least 4 times in the last few weeks. Always happens after 6am EST when most of the DC players have gone to bed. Last night for example, AD and EP both crowned and emperor in a matter of hours, only to lose it to DC before I could even wake up, in other words, less than 24 hours.

My suggestion would prevent these cheap tactics from getting players the emperor title.

You can focus on the fact that some people have to play during that time, but when entire guilds coordinate an effort to dethrone our emp, specifically at that time of the morning, it's hard to believe they're just playing whenever they can.

Pretty soon Chillrend will turn into an emp flipping server like we saw back when we had more campaigns. I have a lot of fun pvp'ing there, but when you enemies are motivated by crowning an emp rather than having fun, it dries up fast and leaves us all on DC feeling very empty and bored. It's starting to feel like the DC on Chillrend NA are just there to turn the map blue for the next night capping. The only action during the day is the future emps(on all sides) farming AP in the most boring ways possible.

I think it's sad that players want such an easy game that when I suggest something like 24hr delay on crowning, people freak out that it would be too hard. Too hard? It's the freaking emperor of Cyrodiil! It should be hard, it should be a huge reward for fighting an amazing fight. Not some title, dye & achievement for ap farming and a couple hours of pvdoor while the enemy sleeps.

Cody

Sanct16 wrote: »

badmojo wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

It is impossible to hold emp for 24h on thorn when both opposing factiona try to dethrone you. The flags of the last keep will just flip in lag with noone taking damage.

By all means, let's base everything off of a broken laggy thornblade, I'm sure that'll make the game awesome!

Yes. It is the most populated campaign and the only one that is competitive. All other servers are dominated by one faction.

lets see here...

haderus switches hands a lot lately....

chillrend has been undergoing revolution lately..

blackwater blade is actually pretty balanced most of the time.....

so yeah, thornblade is no longer the only competitive campaign. It is the MOST competitive, but not the only competitive. Time to abandon that isolationist and elitist mindset, it is no longer valid.


and yes, blackwater blade is a server. Just because there are no vet lvl players does not mean its not a server.

NadiusMaximus

Night capping? So I can only play at 3 am my time, when your on and it's OK to play ? I think you should buy a globe and realize that not everyone is in the same hemisphere as you. There are only two servers, one Europe, one everywhere else.

badmojo

NadiusMaximus wrote: »

Night capping? So I can only play at 3 am my time, when your on and it's OK to play ? I think you should buy a globe and realize that not everyone is in the same hemisphere as you. There are only two servers, one Europe, one everywhere else.

It's not a problem of people playing at night, it's a problem of groups deliberately targeting a campaign when they know it's at its least population, Their motivation isn't to play hard and seize an opportunity of weakness for the benefit of their alliance, all they want is to get one player the former emp title. It's emp farming by way of night capping, the worst part is they brag about it on these forums, like these are actions to be proud of.

You imply my suggestion would punish players who play at night. But, wouldn't it be the same for everyone no matter when they played? If you cap at whatever time, you rely on everyone who plays in the next 24 hours to help you defend your emperor ship, which should mean no matter what time you play, you can help crown or prevent it from happening.

NadiusMaximus

The only way that would work would be to lock players into a campaign And a faction for longer than 24 hours.

Because... Exploiting the system now are all those guys that cap everything, switch factions, take it all back, and repeat. Most buff campaign s are just guys playing against/with themselves.

I was on when the campaigns reset. Everything went back to 0. I was standing in front of a quest turn in and checked. Leader boards had rest as normal, I turned in my quest, got my 1000 ap and checked the boards. This was in a matter of four seconds after the campaign reset. I found guys that had already gotten 20k ap vs. My pitiful 1000. 20k in 5 seconds looks fishy as *** to me.

Roselle

You seem to make claims about people that don't "deserve" to be emperor

badmojo wrote: »

NadiusMaximus wrote: »

Night capping? So I can only play at 3 am my time, when your on and it's OK to play ? I think you should buy a globe and realize that not everyone is in the same hemisphere as you. There are only two servers, one Europe, one everywhere else.

It's not a problem of people playing at night, it's a problem of groups deliberately targeting a campaign when they know it's at its least population, Their motivation isn't to play hard and seize an opportunity of weakness for the benefit of their alliance, all they want is to get one player the former emp title. It's emp farming by way of night capping, the worst part is they brag about it on these forums, like these are actions to be proud of.

You imply my suggestion would punish players who play at night. But, wouldn't it be the same for everyone no matter when they played? If you cap at whatever time, you rely on everyone who plays in the next 24 hours to help you defend your emperor ship, which should mean no matter what time you play, you can help crown or prevent it from happening.

If you think some of us don't play hard, get the f*** over yourself, honestly. Some of us are on graveyard shift and if I personally see the opportunity to help a friend get some nice passives, I will take it. I don't really care if it bothers you because you're sleeping.