ESO Emperor Guide

Deltia
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Hello ESO Community,

Some of you know I chased the Emperor throne on Haderus last week. While I wasn't successful, I did learn a lot I think we can benefit from as a community. I posted this on my site and wanted to share it here for those that may not visit it. Here's the link if you want to read/see the full version.


When originally wrote this it’s was Saturday and with only two days left in Haderus campaign, I’m sitting at the number 5 spot about 250,000 Alliance Points behind our current Emperor. I most likely won’t catch up and I’m feeling tired and burnt out. But this experience has still been a success because now I have a better understanding on how to become Emperor. I want to explain some concepts on how you earn points needed for the crown first, how to setup a schedule that will work throughout the campaign, and finally outline two ways I see are the easiest to obtain the crown.

Alliance Points Tips

Emperor = Most AP points at the time Inner Keeps flip (article here describes it)

Stay Alive – The character I used for this experiment was Deltia, a Veteran Rank 14 Nord Dragonknight. Any class can get Emperor and each has strengths and weaknesses. Regardless of your class, you need to survive. My DK lacks speed so I augmented my build for quick get aways with Elusive Mist (Vampire Skill Line) and Retreating Maneuvers (Alliance War Assault Skill Line). This way I could escape with blazing speed. Another trick to staying alive is going in stealth as often as you can. Even if you don’t think it’s possible, try. I’m surprised at how many times I’ve stayed alive just going behind a tree, pillar, or something and stealthing.

Heal – Heal every target you can because every action they do while being healed, earns you Alliance Points (AP). So often times you’ll see someone running around casting Rapid Regeneration (Restoration Staff Skill Line) over and over. With a 16 second duration, this skill is the best to spray on a large group repeatedly. You can also use Healing Springs (Restoration Staff Skill Line) for a large area heal or both. Either way, heal other players for massive AP gains. Additionally, remember to resurrect those fallen allies too, as that’s a decent source of AP plus it helps make a push on an assault or a defense.

Repair – On a slow campaign like Haderus, I can’t stress the importance of repairing. It awards decent AP while helping your alliance. I used to only repair the breach wall upon a successful siege, but now I scout every wall on the keep. Don’t forget to repair the doors too, as they are different and often times go unrepaired. While repairing, you give your alliance time to find the next location to fight. So instead of spending time riding around finding a fight, you can join it immediately.

Solo v Group – Sadly, I’m better off playing solo most of the time. I don’t know how the mechanics work, but I receive more AP off on my own sprinkling AP dust (AKA Rapid Regeneration) everywhere. The most advantageous time to group is at nights when you have enough members to properly siege and assault the Emperor keeps. Until then, really just go on your own.

Defense – We’ve all heard the annoying cliche “defense wins championships.” The idea can be applied to our Emperor chase. While I’m on my own, often times I don’t assault keeps. I only go defend keeps once they’ve been flagged. It’s much easier to defend a keep and it only takes one guard being pulled for a defensive tick or “D-Tick).” While soloing, I’ll go deep in enemy territory and solo a resource. I’ll sit there as one person after another tries to kill me. I can solo nearly anyone with guards including an Emperor and this awards about 1,000 AP even if I kill a level 10. Be patient, don’t leave right away they will come, believe me.

Ganking – We did an experiment as a group to see how advantageous ganking is over assaulting keeps. My group of 10 took a resource which awarded 20 AP. That same group killed a level 40 and everyone got 80 AP. Think about that, 4x the amount of AP for killing one person. Even a small gank group of well coordinated players can tip the scales and gain massive AP. At one point, I 1v6 a small group at a keep giving me around 10,000 AP in 10 minutes. No, I did not kill them all at once for an epic YouTube video, I started slow. I went for the lowest HP target and nuked them with seconds using my ultimate. I got another two to chase me to the front guards then I picked the weakest target again. Then, I went back up front and they resurrected the weakest player, who I killed again. After they entered the inner wall, I went inside setup oils and Razor Caltrops. Slowing them down to a halt pouring oil while the Mage Guards nuked them. Bang, 10k AP.

Prepare – I can’t stress at how important it is to prepare. My preparation lacked two things, knowing the campaign I was pushing and overall PvP meta. I consider myself very good at fighting, creating builds, and utilizing game mechanics; but I had no idea about general PvP strategies and tactics. Eat your humble pie and watch the best or join them. Learn what they’re doing and why. After having my teeth kicked in for about four days, I started seeing the importance of meatbags and oil pots. On your Emperor push, you don’t want to learn all the tactics like I did, you want to be the master of execution. Make sure you understand PvP and prepare for the type of environment Haderus is, not crowded Thornblade. Go play there for a week and see what happens during peak hours and off times. It’s a much different place than any other server.
Schedule

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Another one of my monster failures is schedule. If you know me, I sleep a lot. I’m talking easily 10 hours a day. I thought, “oh I’ll just go down to four a day without any problems.” Wrong…so wrong. There’s a reason that in the Army we were trained to be sleep deprived. That way when it mattered, we knew how to handle it. First tip with schedule, is start dwelling down your sleep until you are comfortable around the six hour range. You’d like to be at four a day if possible though it was extremely hard for me and that’s what broke my spirit more than anything.

At each day and time, you should be focused on something specific as the campaign fluctuates in optimal AP gains. Below is the list of what I found to be most beneficial.
Times

* 2 AM to 8 AM “Sleep” – Around these times, it’s an optimal time to get some sleep in. I listed a six hour block here because your mind will be rambling on thoughts from the current day. Don’t just close your eyes and expect to sleep, read a book or something that relaxes you. You’ll need all the rest you can get and a peaceful nights sleep will restore your spirits.
* 8 AM to 12 PM “Morning” – This is typically the deadzone on the campaign. You’re best off doing your own thing like ganking, soloing a resource, and looking on the map for battles. This can be an extremely boring time in the morning. So listen to a podcast, put Netflix up on another monitor. Do something to keep the Fun Per Second up otherwise it’s easy to quit.
* 1 PM to 2 PM “Break” – It’s a good idea to take a break around this time before things get going again. Take out your dogs, call your spouse, get up and move around. It really helps to clear your mind before another long session. And if you don’t, prepare to have a crabby family. My dog Shepard usually decides to knock down my green screen around this time everyday so it’s best to just get some fresh air.
* 2 PM to 2 AM ” Group” – Here’s when it becomes advantageous to group. During this time, your Alliance should have some support and people start showing up. I tend to go on the defensive until around prime time or 7 PM EST. Once the population reaches about two bars, it’s time to start flipping keeps. Continue your offensive rampage going as long as you can and around midnight, check the leader boards. If you’re close to being number one and the inner keeps are flipped, stay up and make a push. If not, seriously consider getting some sleep, because it matters.

Days

* Monday – Haderus campaign resets at night time on Mondays. The best thing you can do is sleep during the day and prepare for a late night. This is the best time to get Emperor, early in the campaign. Don’t go too crazy like I did and pull 24 hours than feel completely burned out. If you’re in the running (top 3) stay up, if not go to bed.
* Tuesday – Things are still popping on Tuesday until people start to fall out of the Emperor running, or have to go back to work. You can still do a bit of grouping here before settling into a normal routine. Only push the run if you’re top three otherwise get some sleep.
* Wednesday – This is the dead day. Ideally you can make up a lot of AP on if you play it right. Think defense first, ganking second, and solo play third. Just make sure you follow your routine and you can have a day of 100,000 AP.
* Thursday – Another dead day where you can follow the same plan from Wednesday. Maybe people are off trying for Emperor, so grouping might become advantageous. Either way, get back on track and prepare for the weekend.
* Friday – The only thing that changes is people are generally getting off work and more people decide to join the server. Just group up and follow the zerg during peak hours. Splash people with AP dust left and right and prepare for a late night. Keep pushing if you’re on top.
* Saturday – Do the exact same thing as Friday.
* Sunday – Population fluctuates here. Try to play it by ear following some of the weekend play and normal business day schedule.
* Monday – Remember that you get most of the day Monday prior to the flip. Make one last push for Emperor and expect a lot of resistance because people will want their rewards.

Tracks for Success

Slow Track
The slow and steady method to getting Emperor is to follow the lessons above. At one point, I was in 3rd place and pretty close to number one. Using this method, you should be generating 10,000 AP per hour regardless of play times and 100,000 AP a day. The trick to succeeding with this method is motivation. At some point, it will stop being fun. You need to find a way to make it fun and rewarding. Also, don’t check the leader board often. Remember your path will take time and it’s like looking at the scale every two hours when you’re trying to lose weight. Focus every second on AP, not your spot. Over time you’ll start moving up.

Fast Track
This track has you go hard on Monday night with a good chance to get crowned. Basically you start on the server when it resets, turn in all of your PvP quests, and rush with the zerg. You want to be solo, but close to the zerg to get credit for the kills. Gank and defend when you can, and stay alive. The good thing about this method is within four hours, you’ll know if the Emperor is within reach. If you’re in the top three, keep playing and pull an all nighter. If not, try again next week and so on.

Quick Tricks

Play the Campaign – You need to know the meta prior to launching in for Emperor. Spend a couple of weeks scouting the campaign and see what works.
Follow not Lead – Don’t be the leader during your chase, you need to follow and focus on gaining AP and staying alive.
Understand PvP – I’m not talking about your build but the meta of what teams are doing against you. Know where to place a meatbag and why it’s more important rather than clicking the “4” key 100 times.
Prepare – You need to have all the gear and items for you push as well as preparing your mind and body. Don’t go from 10 hours of sleep to 4 and expect no problems.
Fun Factor – Find a way to have fun in game and out. Chatting in TeamSpeak3, turning on Netflix or anything to keep your motivation high.
Breaks – Get up and move around a lot. Even take a hour lunch and dinner to do something besides gaming. If not, you’ll start to feel it and lose motivation.
Repair – The most undervalued AP gainer is repairing. Constantly look for walls to repair.
Solo – Get a build and a set of gear made for soloing and survival. Go off on your own and gank players during slow times for massive AP.
Keep it a Secret – Yep, don’t tell anyone you’re going for Emperor. Go offline and tell your guild “I got something going on this week.” Otherwise there will be those looking to troll your experience.

Addons

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CyrHUD addon for Elder Scrolls OnlineWhat CyrHUD does is give a popup once keeps are attacked and flagged. It automatically reads how many siege weapons are up and makes it easy to peel off and defend. It also tells you about resources as well so I consider a must have addon. Thanks Sasky for creating this and here’s the CyrHUD link.

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Kill Counter addon for Elder Scrolls OnlineAnother helpful add that displays in your top right screen. It list your kill death ratio and so forth. The main benefit is listing resources and keeps that have been flipped in your chat box. Keeping an eye on CyrHUD and Kill Counter will have you prepared to assualt or defend at a moments notice. Here’s the link to Kill Counter by mikethecoder4.


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Here’s how they both look together in the top right of my screen. You can place them where you like.

Big thanks to those that came out and supported me. This isn’t easy and I found that out, but hopefully my experience can help you reach the Emperor milestone. Look forward to a million more PvP guides in the future! Thanks for reading and leave me a comment with your experience.
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  • Equinox
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    Nice guide! And grats on your achievement =3
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  • Fissh
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    Thx Deltia. Being a person with Emperor interest (as all of us), it is good to get a perspective on the commitment required. A commitment my schedule doesn't allow currently, so glad I haven't tried frivolously:)
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  • IxSTALKERxI
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    Nooo don't tell everyone the secretss you'll make the competition harder hahaha. :smiley:
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  • Xexpo
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    Equinox wrote: »
    Nice guide! And grats on your achievement =3
    I thought he said he didn't get Emp?
    unsuccessful
    Edited by Xexpo on January 20, 2015 4:24PM
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  • wafcatb14_ESO
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    Well good luck to those that care about being Emp. have no intrest in it myself , don`t even care about rank in this game .

    DAOC and warhammer pvp realm rank mattered , as based on your rank you could buy ablities, more crit, reduced crit, stat increases, etc. plus armor was tied to what your RvR/ PVP rank was .

    But this game lol umm no
  • Roechacca
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    Well good luck to those that care about being Emp. have no intrest in it myself , don`t even care about rank in this game .

    DAOC and warhammer pvp realm rank mattered , as based on your rank you could buy ablities, more crit, reduced crit, stat increases, etc. plus armor was tied to what your RvR/ PVP rank was .

    But this game lol umm no

    I agree but not to knock the OP's guide . It's well written and informative . In SWG rank allowed you abilities to purchase new mounts and new gear . There were trophie gifts like a reinforcement NPC call box ect . It made climbing in rank feel more rewarding in pvp . Here it's just another title unless you have enough time away from work and family to grind a unfathomable amount of AP to the person with real life obligations .
  • IxSTALKERxI
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    It's not about the achievement or rank... It's about killing thousands of people.
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    Laser Eyes AR 26 Arcanist | Stalker V AR 41 Warden | I Stalker I AR 42 NB | Stalkersaurus AR 31 Templar | Stalker Ill AR 31 Sorc | Nigel the Great of Blackwater
    Former Emperor x11 campaign cycles
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  • r.jan_emailb16_ESO
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    To be honest, if you're posting a guide to get emp and fail while doing so... well, you might do something wrong.

    While it is true that spamming heals all over the place while being solo gives you a lot of AP, many players dislike that kind of playstyle. You're basically just leeching AP from others while hardly contributing. Get yourself a capable group and start killing enemies, that's much better. This way you also make sure that you can roll with a group of firends once you have emp, because that makes the whole thing much more fun (and you're stronger in a group).

    And since you mentioned it: You get around 800 AP for killing a high level player. This amount is shared between all the players that were in group of the one who killed or did meaningfull damage to that guy. There is some kind of max distance that avoids getting AP from too far away, no matter what damage you did. So if you kill a player with a group of 10, its 80 AP for everyone. If you kill a group of 50 with your group of 10, it's 50*800/10 = 4000 AP each for the kills alone. Healing generates additional AP, but I don't know how this is calculated. Def ticks work similar: if you killed that beforementioned group of 50, the def tick will be 40k AP, shared between all the players that are in range when the tick happens.
    Lairgren | DC Dragonknight - August Palatine
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  • Lorkhan
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    lol
    ppl giving up their lifes for video games.
  • Dalglish
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    Yeah I got emp on eu Thornblade with a lot of help from good players and also frost leaving the campaign to focus on his RL studies. I don't think you really need a schedule, you just need to be able to farm AP like a mothertrucker!

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  • Lhorion
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    A ) PvP for three days without sleeping.
    B ) PvP for a longer time with little sleep.
    C ) The lucky way: PvP for a few hours and becoming emp on the first day you tried ;)
    Edited by Lhorion on January 20, 2015 12:07PM
  • r.jan_emailb16_ESO
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    Lhorion wrote: »
    A ) PvP for three days without sleeping.
    B ) PvP for a longer time with little sleep.
    C ) The lucky way: PvP for a few hours and becoming emp on the first day you tried ;)

    More or less, that's it. I decided to give it a shot, and since I only work 20h/week and study in the meantime, I could easily take off the day of campaign reset and the next day aswell. Played 15h on the first day (obviously breaks for eating etc) and started next morning at 8am or so. Was lucky to have people helping me troughout the day and capping keeps early in the morning. If you want to get emp on one of the "main" campaigns like TB it's hardly doable without guild/friendlies helping you out.
    Lairgren | DC Dragonknight - August Palatine
    playing for eXile


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  • Subtomik
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    Been emp 3 times now, and I can say that while I like your intentions and looks like you have only the community in mind when making a guide, but like what was stated you failed to do so with a dedicated group on a campaign were your faction is always guaranteed at least 1 emp.

    Having played against you and watching your large group and their tactics not only were you guys completely and totally predictable, you couldnt execute what you needed to do to get AP. A good group will make up for the insane schedule you created for yourself everytime from my experience.

    My first time emperor on thornblade I played a crazy scedule, a adderall fueled 12 hour binge that i crashed from and ended up sleeping through most of my reign, in that day i got almost 700k AP, playing with a group no bigger than 12, every faction has these groups and if you arent in one well, goodluck.

    My suggestion would be instead of spreadsheets, and crazy sleep schedules master the games aspects of farming AP. watch some of the guilds in action, study pvp video's and make sure you have a purpose built group.
  • Kas
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    You get around 800 AP for killing a high level player. This amount is shared between all the players that were in group of the one who killed or did meaningfull damage to that guy. There is some kind of max distance that avoids getting AP from too far away, no matter what damage you did. So if you kill a player with a group of 10, its 80 AP for everyone. If you kill a group of 50 with your group of 10, it's 50*800/10 = 4000 AP each for the kills alone.

    While I agree with your general message, this passage is not true. There is a BIG bonus for groups. killing 50 as a group of ten will yield about 50*300 for each player (15k). With healing allies it's even more. That being said, 50 is quite a lot. Only ticks seem to be purely split without a bonus.

    This is even more extreme in bigger groups. 24 players killing 24 others get MUCH more than a player winning a 1v1 (such an encounter nets roughly 5k, i think. i'm not entirely sure as our groups are rarely full). Often, enemies are not fresh and worth no or little AP but the same thing happens for solo kills.
    Likewise the healing can play a big factor. I've gotten 500AP for taking an undefended resource after a battle. Simply from healing groupmades that took part in the previous battle and are hence egliable for heal-AP

    This is also why you can easily become emp with as much sleep as you want (on not-throneblade campaigns) if you have the possibility to play all day long.


    Edited by Kas on January 20, 2015 1:14PM
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  • Rosveen
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    So basically schedule your life (what life?) around a video game. I will never understand competitive PvPers... I'm not criticizing, it just seems so weird for me.
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    Rosveen wrote: »
    So basically schedule your life (what life?) around a video game. I will never understand competitive PvPers... I'm not criticizing, it just seems so weird for me.

    People like to play to win.

    Because someone is competitive doesn't mean they have no life lol
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    Subtomik wrote: »
    Rosveen wrote: »
    So basically schedule your life (what life?) around a video game. I will never understand competitive PvPers... I'm not criticizing, it just seems so weird for me.

    People like to play to win.

    Because someone is competitive doesn't mean they have no life lol
    The Emperor Schedule certainly suggests no life for a week. ;) But yeah, I know it's only for a short time and not everyone plays like that.
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    Rosveen wrote: »
    The Emperor Schedule certainly suggests no life for a week. ;) But yeah, I know it's only for a short time and not everyone plays like that.

    It only took me a few hours 2 of the times. Never multiple days.
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    Subtomik wrote: »
    Rosveen wrote: »
    So basically schedule your life (what life?) around a video game. I will never understand competitive PvPers... I'm not criticizing, it just seems so weird for me.

    People like to play to win.

    Because someone is competitive doesn't mean they have no life lol

    Ya it does .

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  • Asgari
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    It's not about the achievement or rank... It's about killing thousands of people.

    Couldn't have said it better myself.



    Also, I had Emp during that push you were making on Haderus. To get the asap needed I wasn't forced to do some crazy sleep schedule or use spread sheets etc like other have stated. It's just about being smart and knowing how to obtain AP.

    However, once you are Emp it's all about no sleep because the amount of fun you will have with your friends is insane.
    Edited by Asgari on January 20, 2015 1:51PM
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  • Junipus
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    It's also about defending your teammates and faction friendlies along with getting those kills against players comparable or better than you. Playing with no challenges isn't really playing at all.
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  • Sanct16
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    SOLO EMPEROR HOW-TO:
    - Go to Thornblade after reset. All Emp titles achieved on other campaigns are not worth it.
    - Build a crazy aoe blow up build
    - Follow the zerg
    - Spam rapid on them to get healing ap
    - Engage enemy zergs and blow them up
    - disengage and fall back to the zerg
    - focus low health targets from range

    - Be sure to be at ~30k ap/h. *primetime*
    You should get 300k ap a day thats usually more than enough.
    Play nonstop on first 1-2 days.

    Easier way is doing it with a good 10man group. Far easier.
    Edited by Sanct16 on January 20, 2015 2:53PM
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  • Kas
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    Sanct16 wrote: »
    SOLO EMPEROR HOW-TO:
    - Go to Thornblade after reset. All Emp titles achieved on other campaigns are not worth it.
    - Build a crazy aoe blow up build
    - Follow the zerg
    - Spam rapid on them to get healing ap
    - Engage enemy zergs and blow them up
    - disengage and fall back to the zerg
    - focus low health targets from range

    - Be sure to be at ~30k ap/h. *primetime*
    You should get 300k ap a day thats usually more than enough.
    Play nonstop on first 1-2 days.

    Easier way is doing it with a good 10man group. Far easier.

    This post may be condescending trashtalk but, (apart from the first bullet point), I think it is actually the better guide w.r.t how it describes a way to become emperor.

    The bold part may be the most important point and actually contradicts the OP.
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  • NotSo
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    Very nice guide.
    I might put in the work on an off monday but there's no way I'm burning my leave time for a chance at emp.
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  • r.jan_emailb16_ESO
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    Rosveen wrote: »
    So basically schedule your life (what life?) around a video game. I will never understand competitive PvPers... I'm not criticizing, it just seems so weird for me.

    Well, it's my hobby. I'm decent at it, have fun while playing and made some friends troughout the years there. Don't worry, I have a life outside of it as well.
    Lairgren | DC Dragonknight - August Palatine
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  • Suru
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    Subtomik wrote: »
    Been emp 3 times now, and I can say that while I like your intentions and looks like you have only the community in mind when making a guide, but like what was stated you failed to do so with a dedicated group on a campaign were your faction is always guaranteed at least 1 emp.

    Having played against you and watching your large group and their tactics not only were you guys completely and totally predictable, you couldnt execute what you needed to do to get AP. A good group will make up for the insane schedule you created for yourself everytime from my experience.

    My first time emperor on thornblade I played a crazy scedule, a adderall fueled 12 hour binge that i crashed from and ended up sleeping through most of my reign, in that day i got almost 700k AP, playing with a group no bigger than 12, every faction has these groups and if you arent in one well, goodluck.

    My suggestion would be instead of spreadsheets, and crazy sleep schedules master the games aspects of farming AP. watch some of the guilds in action, study pvp video's and make sure you have a purpose built group.

    Pretty much this. I heard about deltia planning this, and he had an overall cocky attitude(i like the dude, amd respect him and like him more than ever) thinking he could do it by prepping, playing all day and taking tips as mentioned above. Well, I kinda just sat back and scoffed, he's in for a reality check soon, which he got. He did better than I expected first few days before it got outta hand.

    As an AD on haderus,group farming AP for ranks on haderus is nonexistent. There are no AD groups who farm or who have the capability, since most people going for it are solo and in groups, pitted against eachother because of the "If i get first, AD will get the ring back cause it is/was our buff server " mentality. The groups in Had are just objective gaming with minimal AP, tho I respect them for their hard work. Whenever I pop into haderus to check out whose first, I see the skilled gankers/solo players, not the objective players. The skilled farming groups are in thorn,azuras or chillrend.

    Haderus has real PVP'RS on EP and DC so they can actually farm, unfortunately mostly AD. I know there are a couple groups in there, but they dont have the competitive composition (not 5 archers and then some) to farm the opponents (yet). Like you and LoM/MBF 's do.

    When I got emp on thorn last cycle, Sure I played alot, but that was necessary, but I couldnt of done it without my guild who knows how to do it right.

    If you wanna learn how to do it right, find out who the top guilds are, or tap your ruby red heels twice and say "I AM AOE BBQ" three times.
    Edited by Suru on January 20, 2015 7:41PM


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    Subtomik wrote: »
    Watching your large group and their tactics not only were you guys completely and totally predictable

    It's so ignorant to call this group predictable, when you're in a cookie cutter build guild... maybe you were just trolling, in that case, well played.

    & Alacrity calling others cocky, dear lawd wake me up!

    Edited by Observant on January 20, 2015 7:42PM
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    Observant wrote: »
    Subtomik wrote: »
    Watching your large group and their tactics not only were you guys completely and totally predictable

    It's so ignorant to call this group predictable, yet you're in a cookie cutter build guild... maybe you were just trolling, in that case, well played.

    Why is cookie cutter bad if you're having fun and being effective.

    Their group didnt have the skill in combat their guild did. Subs comment was #realtalk for them to step it up.

    I reaffirm my cocky statement with the fact that deltia even admitted to being cocky himself beforehand, I followed him.and his website like I do most people who put in effort for the community. Check out his posts on deltiasgaming.com. His daily emp posts were some legit reading material that people should read because of how detailed and real they were.
    Edited by Suru on January 20, 2015 7:52PM


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    I don't understand it... but I won't judge.

    Personally, I prefer to get paid to work... not pay to work.
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    Suru wrote: »
    Observant wrote: »
    Subtomik wrote: »
    Watching your large group and their tactics not only were you guys completely and totally predictable

    It's so ignorant to call this group predictable, yet you're in a cookie cutter build guild... maybe you were just trolling, in that case, well played.

    Why is cookie cutter bad if you're having fun and being effective.

    Their group didnt have the skill in combat their guild did. Subs comment was #realtalk for them to step it up.

    Who said cookie cutter is bad?
    I was relating how hypocritical it was to call Deltia's whole guild predictable, when in fact, it's his guild.

    But yes, real talk.
    #get20solidplayersandteamspeak

    Edited by Observant on January 20, 2015 7:48PM
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