Elite caused lag on Haderus?

Rologue

I was accused last night for my guild bringing lag to the server. I believe this is false, but rather ask and find out for sure... And if we were truly the cause, how to prevent it in the future.
What Elite is: a play how you want guild, in a relaxed PvP environment. We don't call for aoe spams, and only really suggest when our members should go all out... EG: ultimates. Otherwise, we don't tell people how to fight.
We had 1 full raid, and 3 guilds waiting for a spot (also in the area)
Does this seem to be us? Or the combined focus of roughly 70 EP in the ame area, with a seize that we started alone.

imexzenob16_ESO

Wouldn't blame a single faction for the lag last night, all 3 alliances were locked and that was a pretty big fight at Alessia. I just hope that all the impulse trains stay on Thorn and Azura.

Mumyo

Its a mess that whole azura went on haderus to kill that server aswell. It was perfect till last afternoon.
Players who seek smaller PvP without beeing crushed by several guilds should go Chillrend now.

Rologue

Mumyo wrote: »

Its a mess that whole azura went on haderus to kill that server aswell. It was perfect till last afternoon.
Players who seek smaller PvP without beeing crushed by several guilds should go Chillrend now.

Elite will go wherever we feel like. We didn't ruin Azura cuz we organized, the other factions did when they couldn't cope and left. All this crap about winning Factions ruining the fun is stupid. Does your favorite sport team cancel their game, cuz they are always beaten by a better one? No, they push on, train, develop new tactics, and recruit new players.
As for Elite - we are looking for fights. If none are on azura, we will guest another campaign. Either learn to deal with it, or leave, but we will follow the action.
And if u think I will say to my guild... Well it is now past 9 pm, the milk drinkers are in bed, still your weapons... U are wrong. We have never received quarter from any enemy, and will give none.
I came here looking for how I can do my own part in reducing lag, not hear whining from those of the same mentality that got the low population bonus introduced.. But it's not fair that our inactive Faction can score more points than an active one without logging in more than 2 times a week!
Not our fault.



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k1llorbek1lled

Rologue wrote: »

I was accused last night for my guild bringing lag to the server. I believe this is false, but rather ask and find out for sure... And if we were truly the cause, how to prevent it in the future.
What Elite is: a play how you want guild, in a relaxed PvP environment. We don't call for aoe spams, and only really suggest when our members should go all out... EG: ultimates. Otherwise, we don't tell people how to fight.
We had 1 full raid, and 3 guilds waiting for a spot (also in the area)
Does this seem to be us? Or the combined focus of roughly 70 EP in the ame area, with a seize that we started alone.

Don't worry about what people say. It's the horrible server that cant take these stupid abilities/skills. Anyone saying your making lag through building ulti's or PLAYING THE GAME the most effective way through magicka AOE is just a crap player or a noob. If they don't like it, I say wreck them more because its always the people getting rolled saying that BS. Good luck out there.

Rologue

We don't ultimate charge outside of combat... Well a few do. We also don't deliberately aoe spam

k1llorbek1lled

Rologue wrote: »

We don't ultimate charge outside of combat... Well a few do. We also don't deliberately aoe spam

it don't matter dude, blame the server, you guys are just playing the game

suycyco

We had few lag on haderus yesterday, until this fight on chalman full of EP with few blue defence.
When DC troups came to defend the fort it was laggy as hell on all the zone (I had a fight on bleaker and it was awfull something like 30 sec lag).
Dunno who were the EP (if it was you or others) on chalman at this moment but YES they caused the lag and intentionnaly since the few DC who were there to defend didn't caused it...

Armitas

I'll take the elite and the lag over the constant over popping by the enemy faction. It's only "small population pvp" until the wrong side starts winning then it's zerg vs small population pvp. The recent AD pop lock versus 1 bar EP comes to mind. I welcome the chance to return the favor and these elite guilds provide that.

k1llorbek1lled

suycyco wrote: »

We had few lag on haderus yesterday, until this fight on chalman full of EP with few blue defence.
When DC troups came to defend the fort it was laggy as hell on all the zone (I had a fight on bleaker and it was awfull something like 30 sec lag).
Dunno who were the EP (if it was you or others) on chalman at this moment but YES they caused the lag and intentionnaly since the few DC who were there to defend didn't caused it...

how did the EP cause it?

Juraigr

Rologue wrote: »

Mumyo wrote: »

Its a mess that whole azura went on haderus to kill that server aswell. It was perfect till last afternoon.
Players who seek smaller PvP without beeing crushed by several guilds should go Chillrend now.

Elite will go wherever we feel like. We didn't ruin Azura cuz we organized, the other factions did when they couldn't cope and left. All this crap about winning Factions ruining the fun is stupid. Does your favorite sport team cancel their game, cuz they are always beaten by a better one? No, they push on, train, develop new tactics, and recruit new players.
As for Elite - we are looking for fights. If none are on azura, we will guest another campaign. Either learn to deal with it, or leave, but we will follow the action.
And if u think I will say to my guild... Well it is now past 9 pm, the milk drinkers are in bed, still your weapons... U are wrong. We have never received quarter from any enemy, and will give none.
I came here looking for how I can do my own part in reducing lag, not hear whining from those of the same mentality that got the low population bonus introduced.. But it's not fair that our inactive Faction can score more points than an active one without logging in more than 2 times a week!
Not our fault.

Loooool people left azura cos your dumb guild did nothing but night cap at prime you get pushed all the way to arrius, but come 10pm the 40 man night train arrives

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Sanct16

I don't know who nightcaps Azura everyday. But these people did destroy it.

Apart from that, of course a 24 man group is not causing the lag. But if all the pugs follow them and its suddenly a 100 man group, well then it lags. Let's hope that 1.6 will punish such behaviour.

suycyco

dcman830_ESO wrote: »

suycyco wrote: »

We had few lag on haderus yesterday, until this fight on chalman full of EP with few blue defence.
When DC troups came to defend the fort it was laggy as hell on all the zone (I had a fight on bleaker and it was awfull something like 30 sec lag).
Dunno who were the EP (if it was you or others) on chalman at this moment but YES they caused the lag and intentionnaly since the few DC who were there to defend didn't caused it...

how did the EP cause it?

Dunno if there is a method or if it's just to be too many at some point casting random spells, but when a faction is almost alone at some point it's not hard to find who cause it.
To compare at Alessia their was a big triple fight to take the fort (I was there before I died and rez to bleaker to go defend Chalman), and the lag was nothing compare to the Chalman one.

Rologue

Juraigr wrote: »

Rologue wrote: »

Mumyo wrote: »

Its a mess that whole azura went on haderus to kill that server aswell. It was perfect till last afternoon.
Players who seek smaller PvP without beeing crushed by several guilds should go Chillrend now.

Elite will go wherever we feel like. We didn't ruin Azura cuz we organized, the other factions did when they couldn't cope and left. All this crap about winning Factions ruining the fun is stupid. Does your favorite sport team cancel their game, cuz they are always beaten by a better one? No, they push on, train, develop new tactics, and recruit new players.
As for Elite - we are looking for fights. If none are on azura, we will guest another campaign. Either learn to deal with it, or leave, but we will follow the action.
And if u think I will say to my guild... Well it is now past 9 pm, the milk drinkers are in bed, still your weapons... U are wrong. We have never received quarter from any enemy, and will give none.
I came here looking for how I can do my own part in reducing lag, not hear whining from those of the same mentality that got the low population bonus introduced.. But it's not fair that our inactive Faction can score more points than an active one without logging in more than 2 times a week!
Not our fault.
Get use to it.
Go play Mario.
Rage post is rage post.

Loooool people left azura cos your dumb guild did nothing but night cap at prime you get pushed all the way to arrius, but come 10pm the 40 man night train arrives

Right! Pushed back by 2 pop locked factions, that focus on the larger threat... Us... But I don't come crying about a green alliance. Would be dumb not to semi ignore eachother, like it would be dumb for us to allow you to keep your keeps at bed time. You want those keeps in the morning? Defend them... You don't have time? Not my fault... We do

Juraigr

Rologue wrote: »

Juraigr wrote: »

Rologue wrote: »

Mumyo wrote: »

Its a mess that whole azura went on haderus to kill that server aswell. It was perfect till last afternoon.
Players who seek smaller PvP without beeing crushed by several guilds should go Chillrend now.

Elite will go wherever we feel like. We didn't ruin Azura cuz we organized, the other factions did when they couldn't cope and left. All this crap about winning Factions ruining the fun is stupid. Does your favorite sport team cancel their game, cuz they are always beaten by a better one? No, they push on, train, develop new tactics, and recruit new players.
As for Elite - we are looking for fights. If none are on azura, we will guest another campaign. Either learn to deal with it, or leave, but we will follow the action.
And if u think I will say to my guild... Well it is now past 9 pm, the milk drinkers are in bed, still your weapons... U are wrong. We have never received quarter from any enemy, and will give none.
I came here looking for how I can do my own part in reducing lag, not hear whining from those of the same mentality that got the low population bonus introduced.. But it's not fair that our inactive Faction can score more points than an active one without logging in more than 2 times a week!
Not our fault.
Get use to it.
Go play Mario.
Rage post is rage post.

Loooool people left azura cos your dumb guild did nothing but night cap at prime you get pushed all the way to arrius, but come 10pm the 40 man night train arrives

Right! Pushed back by 2 pop locked factions, that focus on the larger threat... Us... But I don't come crying about a green alliance. Would be dumb not to semi ignore eachother, like it would be dumb for us to allow you to keep your keeps at bed time. You want those keeps in the morning? Defend them... You don't have time? Not my fault... We do

Glad you don't mistake it for skill
+1

Cogo

Why do some people blame everyone or everything other then themselves when they have a problem that can be or will be fixed?

Lag in Cyrodiil was reduced in the latest patch. Not all of course but it got better. It will keep improving. More players = more reason for ZoS to improve. (Dont people see that?)

ZoS is listening but unless you give them suggestions about solutions, whining about problems does nothing.

A Few weeks ago there was a post here: "Merge campaigns!! Not enough players!!" Now people whine about to many players. *scratch head*.

I want to make a complaint of my own. Why the hell wount players fight in Cyrodiil if their alliance isnt "winning"?

A map colored in the enemies name, means MORE reason to fight. Not less. Anyone can be a winner and fight when its "easy". Only good players can fight back.

If an alliance don't have a single keep, they have the best and easiest way to take one.

I refuse to think players are stupid. Can anyone explain why it doesnt seam fun to play when your alliance can choose every keep on the map to attack?

ToRelax

Rologue wrote: »

I was accused last night for my guild bringing lag to the server. I believe this is false, but rather ask and find out for sure... And if we were truly the cause, how to prevent it in the future.
What Elite is: a play how you want guild, in a relaxed PvP environment. We don't call for aoe spams, and only really suggest when our members should go all out... EG: ultimates. Otherwise, we don't tell people how to fight.
We had 1 full raid, and 3 guilds waiting for a spot (also in the area)
Does this seem to be us? Or the combined focus of roughly 70 EP in the ame area, with a seize that we started alone.

I don't know who was causing the lag yesterday. I did see some trains though, you know, full raid stacking up, Barrier, all charge at the same time and AoE ftw.

I also don't blame you for coming to Haderus as it is obvious that the other factions came first over here from Azura's Star. I haven't been there in a long time though, since it became dominated by EP, so I don't know why they came in the first place.

But, some guilds have been beginning playing on Haderus EP more and more over the last weeks/months until we started actually trying to destroy the Buff server, wich is now pretty much done. Butif everyone comes from Azura's Star to Haderus, that is basically making Azura's Star a dead Buff server while creating Lagerus.

So... why don't you go for Chillrend? To us it's pretty frustrating when some people from another server come to our new lag free PvP server and "steal" it because we can't do anything against that, whoever created the lag, we just don't want to play with it. So you must understand, if you guys (speaking to all factions of AS) come over to Haderus, leaving AS to become a dead server, how shall we know that wouldn't happen just the same way if we would go to Chillrend now?

So please, the less guilds are joining Haderus now, the better. Especially all kinds of zergs and trains. Show some sportsmanship!

Rologue

We aren't joining haderus. We have come there several months when there was little to do (like the end of the campaign). Right now, azura is a bit slow, and we left when we started losing keeps.

ToRelax

Rologue wrote: »

We aren't joining haderus. We have come there several months when there was little to do (like the end of the campaign). Right now, azura is a bit slow, and we left when we started losing keeps.

I know you ware not going to stay there and I already wrote I don't blame you for coming on Haderus. It is also not as if there was nothing to do that evening, the other factions were locked as well. That is why I said this to all factions on AS... if you go on another campaign, please don't all come to Haderus.

Columba

If you aren't mindlessly aoe spamming, then you aren't the cause.

s7732425ub17_ESO

It doesn't matter.

There are certain groups on NA Thornblade that "cause" a ton of lag just because of how well they group up (zergball) and synergize together (tons of healing and shield spam). It's been going on for three months. It's part of the game, and everyone has gotten used to it by now.

Also, anytime your faction loses, you always blame it on the other factions teaming up and lagging out the server. It's ESO tradition.

Darklord_Tiberius

imexzenob16_ESO wrote: »

Wouldn't blame a single faction for the lag last night, all 3 alliances were locked and that was a pretty big fight at Alessia. I just hope that all the impulse trains stay on Thorn and Azura.

All three alliance were locked? LOL what Haderus do you play on?

Haderus pop only ever locks for AD, EP has medium to low pop and DC has low to medium pop.

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Darklord_Tiberius

Rologue wrote: »

I was accused last night for my guild bringing lag to the server. I believe this is false, but rather ask and find out for sure... And if we were truly the cause, how to prevent it in the future.
What Elite is: a play how you want guild, in a relaxed PvP environment. We don't call for aoe spams, and only really suggest when our members should go all out... EG: ultimates. Otherwise, we don't tell people how to fight.
We had 1 full raid, and 3 guilds waiting for a spot (also in the area)
Does this seem to be us? Or the combined focus of roughly 70 EP in the ame area, with a seize that we started alone.

I hope you are talking about EU Haderus, cause if you think NA Haderus had 70 pact on at any single point during the weekend; you should go take a math class lol.

Cody

Blame the crappy servers.

Mumyo

Rologue wrote: »

Mumyo wrote: »

Its a mess that whole azura went on haderus to kill that server aswell. It was perfect till last afternoon.
Players who seek smaller PvP without beeing crushed by several guilds should go Chillrend now.

Elite will go wherever we feel like. We didn't ruin Azura cuz we organized, the other factions did when they couldn't cope and left. All this crap about winning Factions ruining the fun is stupid. Does your favorite sport team cancel their game, cuz they are always beaten by a better one? No, they push on, train, develop new tactics, and recruit new players.
As for Elite - we are looking for fights. If none are on azura, we will guest another campaign. Either learn to deal with it, or leave, but we will follow the action.
And if u think I will say to my guild... Well it is now past 9 pm, the milk drinkers are in bed, still your weapons... U are wrong. We have never received quarter from any enemy, and will give none.
I came here looking for how I can do my own part in reducing lag, not hear whining from those of the same mentality that got the low population bonus introduced.. But it's not fair that our inactive Faction can score more points than an active one without logging in more than 2 times a week!
Not our fault.

WTF??? I never mentioned ur guild. I just said that haderus is flooded and that people who seek smaller pvp should go Chillrend now.

I also said that whole azura went on haderus. (I doubt that ur guild is whole azura).
Cant be more precise here.
About the winnerteam[snip] u started... i am pact and went to haderus to fight the buffcampaign stuff and we succeeded.
I never accused u of anything just wanted to tell the people that seek lagfree pvp to go chillrend.

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Soris

Mumyo wrote: »

About the winnerteam[snip] u started... i am pact and went to haderus to fight the buffcampaign stuff and we succeeded.

You guys did very good job in Haderus, destroying the buff campaign with a few men in a month or so. This is a fact. I salute you!
Then hyenas came to steal lion's prey. This is an another fact.


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Grim13

imexzenob16_ESO wrote: »

Wouldn't blame a single faction for the lag last night, all 3 alliances were locked and that was a pretty big fight at Alessia. I just hope that all the impulse trains stay on Thorn and Azura.

Funny. Most of Thorn are hoping they go to play on Haderus.

Soris

It seems so

Cody

Come to haderus then!!! my axes and my bow long to end your miserable lives!!!!!

nAismA

to be honest, i know that rologue & decimation are NOT responsible for the great lag wars on azura. they night-cap and they come in great numbers thats true, but i never saw them causing lag on azura until now.

i dont know if they dont copy some bad behaviour from the ep-lag-grp from tb.
this kind of play is very very seductive cause your enemies cant use any skills properly.

and so i give them credits until i saw them causing intentional lags.

but i assess - cause of his posts - that rologue is very capable to defend lag-mode fighting within his own faction very emotional as an art of play.

iseko

Was not our fault. We had 27 people in haderus.