[Feedback] Pre-1.6 - known inconsistencies in gear stats

Gyudan

Disclaimer: the following numbers are based on VR14 legendary items. The trends remain the same for lower quality items but the percentages may slightly vary.

The spoilers contain pictures of items showing the stats listed above for a better understanding of the differences.

MAGICKA/STAMINA VS HEALTH
Health consistently gets +50% value compared to stamina and magicka. For most items, a stamina point is worth 1.5 health points. Jewelry traits, however, are the only ones with a 1:1 ratio.

• Attribute point
  - Magicka/Stamina: 10
  - Health: 15 (+50%)
  
• Set bonus
  - Magicka/Stamina: 93 to 94
  - Health: 138 to 141 (+50%)
  
• Glyph
  - Magicka/Stamina: 97
  - Health: 145 (+50%)
  
  
• Jewelry trait (arcane/robust/healthy)
  - Magicka/Stamina: 84
  - Health: 84 (equal)
  
  
  

The health/stamina ratio is supposedly changing to 1.1 with update 6. I hope that the jewelry pieces will show it too and that they won't remain stuck at the default value.


WEAPON AND SPELL DAMAGE
There is absolutely no logic on this one. Glyphs grant the same value but item set bonuses are completely different.

• Weapon damage
  - Glyph: 14
  - Set bonus: 17 (+20%)
  
  
• Spell damage
  - Glyph: 14
  - Set bonus: 9 (-35%)
  
  

ARMOR AND SPELL RESISTANCE
For some reason, jewelry enchantments are 3.5 times more effective than item sets for armor and spell resistance. I think that the set bonuses granting those stats are anormally bad compared to the others, given how much easier it is to raise them with a single jewerly enchantment.

• Armor
  - Set bonus: 184
  - Jewelry glyph: 630 (+357%)
  
  
• Spell resistance
  - Set bonus: 184
  - Jewelry glyph: 630 (+357%)
  - Dungeon set bonus: 250 (probably forgotten a long time ago in the revamp)
  
  
  

MUNDUS BOONS (based on Tamriel Foundry and experimentation)

- The Lover: +100 Spell Resistance
- The Thief: +5% crit chance
- The Mage: +100 Magicka
- The Warrior: +20 Weapon damage (??)
- The Serpent: +25 health regeneration outside combat
- The Apprentice: +5% spell penetration
- The Atronach: +20 magicka regeneration
- The Lady: +100 armor
- The Ritual: +5% healing done
- The Shadow: +5% crit strike damage
- The Steed: Increases run speed
- The Lord: +100 health
- The Tower: +100 stamina

Some boons are particularly bad:
- The Lord only gets a 1:1 ratio compared to magicka/stamina
- The Lover and Lady's +100 amor and spell resistance are quite useless.

That's all for today. Feel free to add more details if I forgot anything.


@ZOS_GinaBruno: Since pretty much everything is getting changed in update 6, it would be great if the people in charge of itemization and statistics were a bit more careful with their spreadsheets this time.

Ashanne

Some boons are missing completely:
- Stamina regeneration

Oughash

Thanks for posting this summary. These discrepancies have aggravated me for months now.

Dracane

I feel like the boost from the Apprentice is much higher than 5%. The damage increase from the apprentice is much higher, than the damage increase from a 14% spell pen staff.

I seriously can't see, how an offensive magic user can use anything else than the Apprentice. The damage gain is sooo needed. Otherwise the damage is underwhelming.

Nifty2g

I tested out using The Ritual over The Shadow for healing, shadows makes your heals hit harder (overall heals not just crit)

Dracane

michael.patersonrwb17_ESO wrote: »

I tested out using The Ritual over The Shadow for healing, shadows makes your heals hit harder (overall heals not just crit)

I think it is equal. I mean.... The Ritual always affects your heals, the shadow only when you crit and even then, the ritual helps.

I haven't tested it myself, but I'm very sure the ritual is superior.

Gyudan

Dracane wrote: »

I feel like the boost from the Apprentice is much higher than 5%. The damage increase from the apprentice is much higher, than the damage increase from a 14% spell pen staff.

I seriously can't see, how an offensive magic user can use anything else than the Apprentice. The damage gain is sooo needed. Otherwise the damage is underwhelming.

Did you test this in group fights as well? It seemed to me that the resistance debuffs given to bosses in 12p group situations were high enough to make further armor/spell penetration a bad choice.

Ahdora

Dracane wrote: »

michael.patersonrwb17_ESO wrote: »

I tested out using The Ritual over The Shadow for healing, shadows makes your heals hit harder (overall heals not just crit)

I think it is equal. I mean.... The Ritual always affects your heals, the shadow only when you crit and even then, the ritual helps.

I haven't tested it myself, but I'm very sure the ritual is superior.

I did test it, based on another detailed test I saw someone else perform (wanted to make sure my findings would match their own), and Shadow gave, on average, a 5.3% increase to overall healing, whereas Ritual was flat 5%.

Not much of an increase, to be sure, but definitely and consistently there.