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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Are surveys from writs currently performing as expected/desired?

EQBallzz
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When writs first were introduced they were not performing correctly and were adjusted. Now that some time has passed I'm just wondering if the survey reports are performing in all aspects in a desirable way.

First, is the nirncrux dropping at the desired rate now? Seems exceptionally rare from any node in upper Crag and really not much better from a survey.

Secondly, and more of the point of my post I'm wondering about some of the survey reports like blacksmithing, woodworking and clothing. Why do those two professions yield "random" nodes with lower level material if you did a max level writ? Why would anyone want ash wood when they burned through a stack of nightwood for the writ? Shouldn't the survey report take you to harvesting nodes that match the writ you performed?

I don't get the whole random collection of lower level nodes in Craglorn thing. Alchemy reports always give appropriate level stuff thanks to them being level independent and enchanting seem to always give level 8 or 9 potency runes (iirc) so not sure why the other 3 give these random nodes that don't correlate to the zone or the writ. It sure would help on the high expenditure of crafting mats for writs if the survey reports actually gave all nodes of the same material used for that writ.
  • Ourorboros
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    As expected? I guess. They all work now. As desired? Not for someone maxed in all crafts. Rewards do not come close to investment in time/resources.
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  • Robbmrp
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    Ourorboros wrote: »
    As expected? I guess. They all work now. As desired? Not for someone maxed in all crafts. Rewards do not come close to investment in time/resources.

    I couldn't agree more.....
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  • UrQuan
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    Ourorboros wrote: »
    As expected? I guess. They all work now. As desired? Not for someone maxed in all crafts. Rewards do not come close to investment in time/resources.
    I don't entirely agree.

    For equipment writs, yes, at max crafting level it's just not worth doing. While leveling it's maybe worthwhile for the inspiration - but only if you happen to be collecting an excess of mats anyway.

    For consumables writs I find even at max crafting levels you get more out of them than you put into them. So for consumables I consider the writs to be worth doing.
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  • EQBallzz
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    I really meant this question to be posed more to ZOS..as in are they happy with what they are seeing now that the adjustments have been made and also wondering why max level writs produce survey reports that net low level nodes (ash, maple etc.. instead of all nightwood) in upper Craglorn because that makes no sense and further diminishes the worth of writs at max level.
  • Ourorboros
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    EQBallzz wrote: »
    I really meant this question to be posed more to ZOS..as in are they happy with what they are seeing now that the adjustments have been made and also wondering why max level writs produce survey reports that net low level nodes (ash, maple etc.. instead of all nightwood) in upper Craglorn because that makes no sense and further diminishes the worth of writs at max level.
    ZOS has already said they are looking at changes to writs that reflect craft skill level. When writ first came out, a lot of unhappiness was posted, and ZOS responded.
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  • I_killed_Vivec
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    ZOS have said that writs will be looked at and that there is room for greater reward for master crafters because writs could be modified to ask for specific traits, etc. I look forward to that.

    My problem with the current writs is that they aren't balanced. You get the same cash and XP for each writ but the alchemy, enchanting and provisioning writs require minimal raw materials (compared to a writ for 9 nightwood staves that would require something like 35 nightwood nodes).

    The balancing aspects are even worse when you consider the potential rewards from survey reports. Alchemy and enchanting reports give back more mats than you used to complete the writ: blacksmith, woodwork and clothing provide far less. Also, as mentioned, why the quicksilver, galletite, ash and mahogany? Not even enough to be processed, just sold as raw.

    Then there's the "reward" for provisioning - great, I just received the recipe for the food they asked me to provide...

    And finally there's the lack of a minimum reward. Optimistically opening the blacksmithing reward:

    "Maybe there'll be a survey report, maybe I'll get a nirncrux... oh, just a garnet" :(
  • EQBallzz
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    ^^ Nicely said. If they increased the min reward on surveys and adjusted the nodes to all be of the same type used in the writ..those two things would go a long way to making the writs more worthwhile but the quantity of mats for the writs probably needs to be reduced as well.
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