ESO - Virtuix compatability

kijima

For those that don't know what Virtuix is, this is it: http://www.virtuix.com/

I've seen demo's of Virtuix running Skyrim, and it looked like a whole lotta fun, wouldn't have a need for the treadmill in the house anymore either

I've been going back to the Virtuix site every now and again, and it seems pricing has been released but orders aren't until april from what I've read. Just wanted to ask you guys if you think something like this is doable for ESO longterm.

Personally, if it were possible I'd be bang up for it.

Neizir

ZOS,

ADD SUPPORT FOR THIS!

Not only does it provide a hyper-realistic experience, it also helps us gamers get some exercise while playing our games! It works with Skyrim, so why not ESO?

Samadhi

Says it requires an Oculus Rift in addition to the unit, and that the Oculus Rift specs are the real limitations of the device.

A trip over to the Oculus Rift forums revealed that the latest available model is apparently having issues with Skyrim at present.

Going to venture a guess that ESO might have problems.
Damn shame, would certainly be interested in getting set up with one of these.

SoonerMagicEE

VR tech is really still in its infancy, but about to hit mainstream. I suggest you be patient and give it a few years. I know it's hard, but the wait will likely be very much worth it.

kijima

Correct, in conjunction with rift of course. Sorry, should have said that.

The DK2 unit seems to be less buggy, and that newer unit has bugger all motion blur and judder compared to the gen 1 stuff from what I've seen and read etc, however I've got no experience with any of this technology and zero exposure to it. Hoping for anyone that has used some of this gear to chime in.

This is what I read recently about DK2 and Skyrim:

Thus far limited to one title, The Elder Scrolls IV: Skyrim (2011), experimental support for one of the DK2′s new features optical positional tracking has been added. This means you can now lean, peer into, and dodge around the game’s epic fantasy world, adding even more immersion for Elder Scrolls fans...

For me, I really like the concept of all this. I think for a game like ESO, this would partner up very nicely indeed. You want 'imurshuns' I couldn't think of a better way myself.

Wouldn't hurt having reduced CPU usage too that you get from using this kind of thing.

Samadhi

https://forums.oculus.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=8028

Thread about setting Skyrim up for the Oculus; apparently it was made when the OP had an DK1 and he or she had this to say about the DK2 (posted just this morning actually):

UPDATE: 13/01/2015.

The above link is dead, some jack ass managed to get access to my mods page and for some unknown reason deleted the guide and all other associated media. As such it is no longer available.

I intended to update the guide as soon as my DK2 landed and one of the injectors got an update. Regrettably when said items arrived it quickly became apparent that it is not currently possible to run Skyrim @ 1080P / 75FPS / Geometry 3D, even on the lowest graphics settings with all AA and shadows off. I'm basing this off performance with a GTX780 and just this weekend testing it with a GTX980. Anyone who tells you otherwise is exaggerating the truth somewhat, any town or city will cause significant drops in FPS rendering most the game useless, well unless you are waaaaay out in the wilderness.

Currently I live in hope that NVidia's own injection method when released will yield more favorable results.... (particularly as it's most likely compatible with Helix mod). I believe it is based on 3D vision which gave my excellent performance in Geo 3D mode on my HMZ-T1 - although it didn't have the FOV or warping over heads. Until I can get a constant 75FPS with shadows I have no interest in this game and would recommend that anyone wishing to play it in VR avoid it for now. I hate to think how poorly the game will play on a CV1 if it has a higher resolution.

Such a shame really, I loved playing it with my DK1, I must have clocked up 100's of hours, if not 1000's. My only solace is that while I'm not playing, the Skywind & Skyblivion teams will have chance to finish their projects.

Hopefully progress will be made on the issue soon though.

kijima

I guess it's a case of watch this space.

Still, I'd love to here from anyone on the ZOS team about ESO compatibility with this tech moving forward.

tonyglissonb14_ESO

I have been playing using the Oculus Dev kit 2, using Vorpx to get it running in ESO, add xbox 360 controller, a few addons to make the interface right.

I7-3930k 2 gtx760 vid cards 64 gig system ram. on medium settings i get over 100 fps in the rift. I can get that kind of framerate in dungeons on high settings.

Samadhi

tonyglissonb14_ESO wrote: »

I have been playing using the Oculus Dev kit 2, using Vorpx to get it running in ESO, add xbox 360 controller, a few addons to make the interface right.

I7-3930k 2 gtx760 vid cards 64 gig system ram. on medium settings i get over 100 fps in the rift. I can get that kind of framerate in dungeons on high settings.

Thank you for this insight.
Was looking into ordering a DK2 and you may have just confirmed the decision for me.

tonyglissonb14_ESO

I have been playing a sword and shield templar having a blast with this games melee in first person. I did want to drop some video just have been having problems with shadowplay and an extended monitor. will have one up soon.

kijima

tonyglissonb14_ESO wrote: »

I have been playing using the Oculus Dev kit 2, using Vorpx to get it running in ESO, add xbox 360 controller, a few addons to make the interface right.

I7-3930k 2 gtx760 vid cards 64 gig system ram. on medium settings i get over 100 fps in the rift. I can get that kind of framerate in dungeons on high settings.

WOW! That sounds amazing, what's the experience like? How many hours have you clocked up?

Sorry for all the questions, but you are now my go to guy for all things Oculus Tony, sorry but you've dobbed yourself in!

tonyglissonb14_ESO

V2 thru V4 in the oculus, Seems that we cannot see our feet in first person very strange to look down and have no feet. I find it really cool to be fighting one mob in front of me and to look over my opponents shoulder to throw a spear at a different target.
Cannot see keyboard, so i do not type fast or respond quickly in game to chat requests.( working on voice to chat solutions). all i can think of at the moment.

hard to describe what it is like.........I am in Nurn.

kijima

What about Cyrodiil, have you spent any time there?

tonyglissonb14_ESO

I have spent some time in Cyrodiil with the rift. I went in solo just for performance testing. So i roamed around looking at the sites being sneaky to avoid getting ganked. all the enemy i saw were V14 and in groups of more than me.

Oh yeah Horseback riding in third person/oculus is not so great would really like first person riding.

Gidorick

I think this might be more on the Virtuix people than it is on ZOS.

Gidorick

tonyglissonb14_ESO wrote: »

V2 thru V4 in the oculus, Seems that we cannot see our feet in first person very strange to look down and have no feet. I find it really cool to be fighting one mob in front of me and to look over my opponents shoulder to throw a spear at a different target.
Cannot see keyboard, so i do not type fast or respond quickly in game to chat requests.( working on voice to chat solutions). all i can think of at the moment.

hard to describe what it is like.........I am in Nurn.

Hey! A legitimate reason to ask for this! I had a post asking for us to have Shadows in 1st person a while back. I figured it would need us to actually have "bodies"

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/130007/first-person-shadows#latest

kijima

You do spend a fair amount of time on horseback in Cyrodiil, more than PvE anyways. What's not so great re: horseback? Is it shaky, motion blue etc?

Thanks for all the answers so far to date Tony, appreciate your answers as you are the only person I know playing ESO with Oculus.

tonyglissonb14_ESO

Using a third/person view of foot or on horseback in the oculus is odd in the sense that you are having some kind of out of body experience. The time scale of the world seems off.. I am running and don't seem to go fast, or the correct speed, Bring the camera back to first/person and moving and my place in the universe seems correct. The offset camera in third/person is crappy in all versions.

For movement and turning, both the Rift and the right stick on the controller and the mouse all control the same axis. So you do not need to stand up to play. The stick or mouse becomes your hips and you look around about 45 degrees left and right with the rift.

Samadhi

kijima wrote: »

What about Cyrodiil, have you spent any time there?

Got my Oculus a couple weeks ago; got ESO up and running in it last night.

The experience of playing with the Oculus in PvE is amazing; in PvP, not so much.

Even zoomed out all the way, the view is rather limited.
Without rearranging my UI, the chat box, compass, resource bars and skill bar are all outside of my view.
Add ons allow me to move them into my appropriate view, but this should give you an idea of how much of the regular monitor image cannot be seen by default in the Rift.
For PvE it works great; for PvP, it means a huge compromise to situational awareness for the sake of fun. It is feasible, but it means playing with a handicap, so if you are a competitive PvP player you may find it leaves something to be desired.