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Raise Pop Caps

pmn100b16_ESO
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Can we raise the pop caps back to where they were? It hasn't fixed the lag on thorn and we're just stuck in long queues now.
  • Cody
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    Go to Haderus or another server. Buff servers are undergoing much attack right now, and are actually fun to play for once.

    If you don't want to do that, then idk
    Edited by Cody on January 4, 2015 6:39PM
  • FluffiestOne
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    WTB 1000 per faction player caps.
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  • Roechacca
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    Lower it . Still hardly any waiting on the DC side .
  • kelly.medleyb14_ESO
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    roechacca wrote: »
    Lower it . Still hardly any waiting on the DC side .

    ^ this.
  • Cathexis
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    Should just have rules to compensate for heavy server loads in keeps.
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  • Asgari
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    Raise pop caps to 300 v 300 v 300 .. Remove Healing Springs from PvP ... Thank me later.
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  • Rylana
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    Or, you can play other campaigns. THERE IS MORE THAN THORN.
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  • Asgari
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Or, you can play other campaigns. THERE IS MORE THAN THORN.

    I do :smile:
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  • NadiusMaximus
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    Or they can fix their *** and raise caps back to what I paid for back in May.

    It blows my mind how some people let this pass as ok. It could pass as a vaudeville act.

    Me: "Hey, mechanic, something is wrong with my car, it's not as fast as it was when I bought it, from you. "

    Mechanic : "Have you changed anything since you bought it?"

    Me: "No, nothing I bring it here for maintenance, and you add any upgrade you think helped it. Now, it's just lugging along, half the people fit in it as before, and it keeps quitting. It's something you did a few months ago. "

    Mechanic: "Oh! It's nothing we did! We are professionals. Have you tried to just drive slower, with less people in it, and at certain hours ?"

    Edited by NadiusMaximus on January 5, 2015 10:29AM
  • pmn100b16_ESO
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Or, you can play other campaigns. THERE IS MORE THAN THORN.

    WHY ARE WE SHOUTING?

    The people I know and play with (from multiple guilds as well as solo players) all play Thorn, so I'm not going to toddle off to another campaign on my jack jones.

    The point is ZoS has repeatedly lowered pop caps as a solution to fix their broken pvp, it isn't working. This was meant to be large scale pvp, not small to medium scale. If you enjoy playing smaller campaigns, fine. Lets have a lower pop cap on those campaigns. But keep Thorn a high pop cap campaign and encourage ZoS to fix their ****.
    Edited by pmn100b16_ESO on January 5, 2015 12:14PM
  • treborrealb14_ESO
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    Yea go back to Launch Pops for servers plz
  • c0rp
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    Go back to beta servers where PVP was filled with people and even in big battles there was like...NO LAG? Can we do that? Can we make that happen?
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  • bertenburnyb16_ESO
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    raise pop cap, and fixitfixitfixit
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  • yodased
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    c0rp wrote: »
    Go back to beta servers where PVP was filled with people and even in big battles there was like...NO LAG? Can we do that? Can we make that happen?

    Beta servers were usually capped at what level 20? Its hard to get a bunch of people with particle AOE in one place at that level.

    Sure you could have 1,000 v 1,000 v 1,000 if they didn't make their spells have actual effect on the client/server relationship.

    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • Roechacca
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    yodased wrote: »
    c0rp wrote: »
    Go back to beta servers where PVP was filled with people and even in big battles there was like...NO LAG? Can we do that? Can we make that happen?

    Beta servers were usually capped at what level 20? Its hard to get a bunch of people with particle AOE in one place at that level.

    Sure you could have 1,000 v 1,000 v 1,000 if they didn't make their spells have actual effect on the client/server relationship.

    This ^
  • Davadin
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    roechacca wrote: »
    yodased wrote: »
    c0rp wrote: »
    Go back to beta servers where PVP was filled with people and even in big battles there was like...NO LAG? Can we do that? Can we make that happen?

    Beta servers were usually capped at what level 20? Its hard to get a bunch of people with particle AOE in one place at that level.

    Sure you could have 1,000 v 1,000 v 1,000 if they didn't make their spells have actual effect on the client/server relationship.

    This ^

    ...then, get rid of the particle AoE?


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  • Lava_Croft
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    At this point, I'm almost wishing for all AoE skills to be disabled until they fix their horrible lag issues.

    Almost.
  • Dreyloch
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Or, you can play other campaigns. THERE IS MORE THAN THORN.

    This is true, but I'd rather deal with occasional lag than be in a campaign that is dead with no one to fight and not much to do except PV'door. ZoS needs to step in and MAKE it worthwhile to switch to the other 30-day.
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  • Kartalin
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    Yesterday and the day before there were times when all three factions were at 2 bars on Haderus. And there was no PVDoor, no matter how many times we tried to catch DC or Pact offguard.
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  • Dreyloch
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    Something else I thought of (that I know ZoS won't take into consideration)...but regardless I'll post it anyway. Make the servers level capped within certain limits. Vr10-14 has a couple/few servers. Vr1-5 has a couple, and everyone else under VR1 has their own.

    You can't switch or friend over to lower tier servers, and there needs to be a system in place so once 1 server for your tier gets full, another opens. Thus reducing wait times AND lag as they can lower the caps a bit.

    "But i wanna play with my level 25 friend/wife/cousin etc etc. /cry" Well then, go pve with them. Get them leveled. Because we all know a level 25 toon even with bolstering of stats doesn't have nearly the skill points and experience needed to level up said skills into morphs. Let alone take on organized VR14 raids.
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  • OrangeTheCat
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    roechacca wrote: »
    Lower it . Still hardly any waiting on the DC side .

    Agreed. Queues are fine on AD too.

    EP got what it QQed for (AD reroll to EP) and all the bad that comes with it.
    Edited by OrangeTheCat on January 5, 2015 9:06PM
  • LonePirate
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    Raise pop caps to 300 v 300 v 300 .. Remove Healing Springs from PvP ... Thank me later.

    1.6 will handle the Healing Springs half of your proposed solution. The changes coming for Ultimate generation may be just what you're seeking.
  • Sotha_Sil
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    LonePirate wrote: »
    Raise pop caps to 300 v 300 v 300 .. Remove Healing Springs from PvP ... Thank me later.

    1.6 will handle the Healing Springs half of your proposed solution. The changes coming for Ultimate generation may be just what you're seeking.

    I agree. We might just get a whole new PvP experience !!!! I hope it will be for the best. But certainly ultimate generation with light and heavy attacks taken into account (if I understood well how it works) might make it less laggy for everyone
    Edited by Sotha_Sil on January 5, 2015 10:56PM
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  • JamilaRaj
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Or, you can play other campaigns. THERE IS MORE THAN THORN.

    Yes, there is, but this is not going to work. People chose populated over low pop campaigns, because they want to jump right into the middle of action, and even if they do not really seek zergy battles, random solo players and tiny groups (which may make up large portion of playerbase) have little to nothing to do in dead (and lopsided) campaigns. With people leaving, campaign enters vicious circle because it forces more and more people to leave and whoever by chance comes not to stay. No matter how long queues are, players have no options, it's eiter no/frustrating play or queue and then some, perhaps laggy, but still much better play, so they chose queues.
    Unless ZOS abolishes option to pick campaign and spreads players evenly automatically or makes changes so low pop campaigns would be more attractive to join and stay (especially for players of weak factions there), there will be number of locked campaigns with queues and buff servers with occasional emp farming and, apart from that, gate camping or at best some resource defense which is kind of pointless considering circumstances, mainly the fact attackes can respawn next to it.
    Should be clear how it works (or rather not works) after 9 months...
    Edited by JamilaRaj on November 11, 2020 2:09AM
  • themizario
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    Hahaha, just had a silly thought. As someone stated above, PvP with no AOE's, the battles would last forever and without proper resource management people would literally be only light and heavy attacking. LoL
  • Soulac
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Or, you can play other campaigns. THERE IS MORE THAN THORN.
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  • Roechacca
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    Soulac wrote: »
    Rylana wrote: »
    Or, you can play other campaigns. THERE IS MORE THAN THORN.
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    Lmao
  • Lava_Croft
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    Yay, lowered population caps and now I can't play PvP anymore since the only campaign worth playing is almost always full.

    I guess it's time to start using an autohotkey script and just stay logged into Thornblade 24/7, because that seems to be the only way to get some decent PvP these days.
    Edited by Lava_Croft on January 7, 2015 9:07PM
  • Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno‌ @ZOS_TristanK‌

    Could one of you pass this on. Lag is unchanged and can't play with friends, people quitting etc the usual stuff. Nice you tried it but put it back and try the next things :)?
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  • Roechacca
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    Make the pop cap equal to the lowest factions current population in Cyrodiil so that talent may prevail .
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