Question about CP and Alts

Engwar · January 2015

Hey folks just a quick question about Champion Points and Alts. I understand I will receive 30 CP for every character I have (as long as i have a 50+), but what about making an alt after the 1.6 update? Will they start out with the same amount of CP as the rest of my clan or only get a CP as my 50+ gets them from that point forward? Thanks

dharbert · January 2015

When update 1.6 arrives, you will get 30 CP for every character as long as you at least have a single veteran rank character. The 30 CP's is a one-time thing. If you create an alt after that, they will not receive it. So, best make all of your alts the way you want them right now.

AshySamurai · January 2015

dharbert wrote: »

When update 1.6 arrives, you will get 30 CP for every character as long as you at least have a single veteran rank character. The 30 CP's is a one-time thing. If you create an alt after that, they will not receive it. So, best make all of your alts the way you want them right now.

Well, I can't agree with it. CP are account wide. So if you have at least 1 VR chatacter - all your characters (even if you create it after 1.6) will have these 30 CP.

Engwar · January 2015

Looks like it's a matter of interpretation of what's been said so far. Would be nice if we could get some clear response from the developers.

Northern_Wolfling · January 2015

@AshySamurai is right. The only way you can miss the 30 CP is, if you have no vet at the onset of 1.6.

Once a point (also the 30 at the beginning) is added to your account, it stays there. They don't take it away later. If they did they would have to take it away for all your charas. Every charakter you have or make, will be able to access your pool and spend all points separately.

dharbert · January 2015

Engwar wrote: »

Looks like it's a matter of interpretation of what's been said so far. Would be nice if we could get some clear response from the developers.

Good luck with that...

Northern_Wolfling · January 2015

dharbert wrote:

Good luck with that...

Actually they do answer since vacation is over now. ;-) Yesterday Kai confirmed in the german parts of the forums that every point you ever get will be added accountwide AND will stay on your account forever. Deleting characters won't make your pool smaller. Every new chracter, no matter when he was or will be created, will be able to access these points.
That includes the 30 Starterpoints.

Joejudas · January 2015

so whats stopping me from making alts....leveling them and using the points on my vr14...then deleting them and doing it again ?

Northern_Wolfling · January 2015

nothing. but level 1-50 won't give you cp, so that might be annyoing to do it all the time though. and you can spend all the points on every character individually. So I'd prefer to keep my alts and play with them.

DeLindsay · January 2015

Joejudas wrote: »

so whats stopping me from making alts....leveling them and using the points on my vr14...then deleting them and doing it again ?

You clearly don't get the ACCOUNT part of the deal. You have an account that you pay ZoS for monthly/3mo/6mo. That account can have up to 8 characters on NA, 8 characters on EU and iirc 8 characters on PTS. If you make a character and level it to XX, then delete it and make a new one, the ACCOUNT Champion Points don't change, unless you earn more of them ofc. It can't EVER go down in points, only up based on your XP gain on any LvL 50 character on that account. I will say that for now it's going to be different for NA/EU meaning your characters on NA are NOT the same as on EU so if you have 5 VR14's on NA but also play on EU and have zero LvL 50's when 1.6 hits, your NA account will have 30 CP, and your EU account will have 0 CP, even though it's the same account. To clarify it further, if the moment 1.6 hits you have ANY LvL 50 character you get (as an example):

Character #1 - VR14: 30 CP
Character #2 - VR5: 30 CP
Character #3 - LvL 37: 30 CP
Character #4 - LvL 28: 30 CP
Character #5: LvL 15: 30 CP
Character #6: LvL 8: 30 CP
Character #7: LvL 8: 30 CP
Character #8: LvL 7: 30 CP

If you gain 1 CP in the first hour 1.6 is live, then all 8 characters now have 31 CP to spend. If you delete character #8 while your account has 31 CP, then your account will have 31 CP. If you make a new character, the moment he/she is out of the character creation screen they have 31 CP to spend. Your account does not get 240 CP points to spend on whatever character you choose, it gets 30 to spend on ALL characters independently.

Joejudas · January 2015

no no i get that i think there is some confusion....what im saying is i have 1 vr14...whats stopping me from leveling the other 7 toons and using those cp on my vr 14...then deleting those 7 toons and making 7 new ones and doing the same thing. Im under the impression i can level the toon without using the cp on it.

Northern_Wolfling · January 2015

DeLindsay wrote:

To clarify it further, if the moment 1.6 hits you have ANY LvL 50 character you get (as an example):

Character #1 - VR14: 30 CP
Character #2 - VR5: 30 CP
Character #3 - LvL 37: 30 CP
Character #4 - LvL 28: 30 CP
Character #5: LvL 15: 30 CP
Character #6: LvL 8: 30 CP
Character #7: LvL 8: 30 CP
Character #8: LvL 7: 30 CP

If you gain 1 CP in the first hour 1.6 is live, then all 8 characters now have 31 CP to spend. If you delete character #8 while your account has 31 CP, then your account will have 31 CP. If you make a new character, the moment he/she is out of the character creation screen they have 31 CP to spend. Your account does not get 240 CP points to spend on whatever character you choose, it gets 30 to spend on ALL characters independently.

Exactly! Well put!

@Joejudas: Like i said. nothing is stoping you to do that. But why would you want to do that? Doing cadwells 14 or 21 times just to get more cp for all of your chars??? o_O

DeLindsay · January 2015

Joejudas wrote: »

no no i get that i think there is some confusion....what im saying is i have 1 vr14...whats stopping me from leveling the other 7 toons and using those cp on my vr 14...then deleting those 7 toons and making 7 new ones and doing the same thing. Im under the impression i can level the toon without using the cp on it.

This

DeLindsay wrote: »

Your account does not get 240 CP points to spend on whatever character you choose, it gets 30 to spend on ALL characters independently.

This is the part where I talked about that whole account thing. The points are not combined they are static to the account as a whole. It wouldn't make any difference if you had 100 characters, they'd all ONLY get 30 points to spend at 1.6's launch. Once you have played a while after 1.6 and have gotten your CP up to 100, then all 8 characters on your account have 100 points to spend, not 800 for your main VR14. You earn 1 CP, the account gains 1 CP and you can only earn CP on a LvL 50 character.

Joejudas · January 2015

DeLindsay wrote: »

You earn 1 CP, the account gains 1 CP and you can only earn CP on a LvL 50 character.

thats answers it. damn i thought i was going to be able to roll a ton of alts and farm the cp

nerevarine1138 · January 2015

Good Stendarr, people. They explained this very clearly months ago.

- You will get 30 CP. Those are account-wide.
- Any character that has reached level 50 will start to earn XP towards new CP, which will continue to be available to every character on the account.
- Characters that are below level 50 will not be able to earn CP, but they will still benefit from the CP that have been made available by the higher-level characters.

Basically, if you played Diablo III, this should not be a new concept.

AlexDougherty · January 2015

Joejudas wrote: »

so whats stopping me from making alts....leveling them and using the points on my vr14...then deleting them and doing it again ?

Nothing, but the CHampion points are account wide, so you still need to grind the same amount of XP to get the next Champion point, and it goes up for each champion point.

After a while it will become worthless to grind on Cadwells silver or gold, and your only option will be to do Dailies and PVP and expect a new CP once a month or so.

Also for the OP, it's 30 CP if you have one VR character or eight, not per character.

Northern_Wolfling · January 2015

Why should the amount of xp required for the next point go up everytime? The amount will be the same always!

AlexDougherty · January 2015

lifthrasir85 wrote: »

Why should the amount of xp required for the next point go up everytime? The amount will be the same always!

Well if they let you get CPs at a constant rate, then the grinders will have maxed out their characters in a couple of months (these are the people who were VR12 within a couple of weeks of launch).

Northern_Wolfling · January 2015

They might be that fast, but I still think they implied points will be gained at a constant rate. Maria said on Eso live that Dailies, PvP and quests etc will provide roughly the same amount of xp per time played after 1.6 hits and it will take about an hour to gain a point if enlightened for the average player. Doing Pvp and dailies won't give you more xp / time played than cadwells.

The_Great_Maldini · January 2015

If you make an alt in the future, they would have access to the champion system and all accrued points, which would include the 30 upfront points. This is my understanding of the system.

Northern_Wolfling · January 2015

@The_Great_Maldini Exactly and Kai Schober even confirmed that officially.