"IF" ESO goes F2P will you stay?

Mordria

General_Kefka wrote: »

With rumors flying around of F2P coming, will you stay if it goes F2P/B2P or will you move on?

No. Both mmo's that I liked, EQ2 and Rift both switched to the F2P model. After the crazy cash stores and all the other useless garbage they added the games just felt cheap and I had no desire to play them any more.

kelly.medleyb14_ESO

DDuke wrote: »

No, and I will boycott every single game Zenimax Media Inc. publishes in the future if this happens (including Elder Scrolls 6 & Fallout 4). Same with B2P.

^ this is what I did with Trion.

Mordria

Double post..

Flynch

Are we going to have a similar thread posted everytime F2P appears on the 'most recent discussions' page?

Because i'd pay good money to not have that be a thing.

Elsonso

Flynch wrote: »

Are we going to have a similar thread posted everytime F2P appears on the 'most recent discussions' page?

Because i'd pay good money to not have that be a thing.

Maybe they will offer this in the cash shop.

Flynch

lordrichter wrote: »

Flynch wrote: »

Are we going to have a similar thread posted everytime F2P appears on the 'most recent discussions' page?

Because i'd pay good money to not have that be a thing.

Maybe they will offer this in the cash shop.

I'm so glad my satire didn't fall on its face

The_Death_Princess

Inklings wrote: »

doesn't mater, already unsubed.

why are you even on these forums then?

Not a legit poll anyhow, its not going to go F2P. Read my other post, learn, stop listening to the reviewer trolls who know nothing and have no credentials for giving factual unbiased news.

Its a business move, there is no real incentive for six months, so why use it? Therefore no sales, remove it.

Wifeaggro13

Dracane wrote: »

JKorr wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Brandalf wrote: »

Inklings wrote: »

doesn't mater, already unsubed.

Can I have your stuff?

Not sure, but I think, you can't even write in the forum, if you have unsubed. So maybe he/she is lying.

As long as you have an active account/you have time left, you can post here. When you cancel your account and your account is no longer active, then you can't post anymore.

When I left the game 8 months ago, I wasn't able to write in the forum anymore. I had to contact the support and ask them to unlock me for the forum again, when I came back a few months ago. Even though I already had subscribed again.

I can verify this. Your forum time will continue until pay cycle is current . I just resubbed . It took me contacting customer support to get my forum access. But then again im not much of a dev boot licker so im not suprised

nascar_angel0674b16_ESO

The #1 reason I decided to play ESO was because it is p2p. After watching the slow fail of Archeage, which I absolutely loved playing and quit to play ESO, I won't play any more f2p games as they all end up p2w no matter how much the devs promise you they won't be. And, f2p games don't get anywhere near the attention a p2p does in reguards to support, bugs and cheating etc.

Cody

I would immediately un-sub and leave. It would cost more then paying a sub fee; and if it turned into a B2P that forced you to pay money for good PvP gear.. I would definitely un-sub.

I can put up with lag, cheating, drama, imbalance, and a long a** grindfest, but if this game goes B2P or F2P, I will be gone.

and no, none of you could have my stuff. I plan to destroy everything I have if it comes down to it.

Goresnort

B2P with paid DLC, and NO cash shop would work for me.

Prefer the sub model though, but the soon to be console release may have generated practical issues that are forcing Zeni to ultimately re-think their business model.

There are several versions of B2P on the market.

GW2 - B2P with cash shop.
TSW - B2P with paid DLC and cash shop. (Sub optional = DLC included)
Destiny - B2P with paid DLC.

An example for DLC in ESO could be new zones.

Would prefer Sub.
Will keep playing under a B2P/DLC model.
B2P with cash shop or F2P with cash shop is not an option I would consider.

kewl

Not a chance. I'll find something else to do with my time.

Aimora

Vis wrote: »

Lotro after f2p. End of argument.

Yes F2P killed LOTRO dead. It is still around but a shell of the amazing game it was before.

Elsonso

1mirg wrote: »

it's not going f2p, it's going b2p.

I will hazard another statement and say that the probable outcome is that it will not do either. At least, not any time soon.

There are other options that they could take before they went this route, options that would be better indicators of a future F2P or B2P than what we have seen so far.

Like I said before, if they do go F2P or B2P this year, then I believe that they are in seriously dire financial circumstances. Life support is failing and the dilithium crystals are burnt out. Sauron's orcs have breached the walls. The Death Star is in orbit above.

I have yet to see anything that indicates dire financial circumstances.


EDIT: I will also point out that, historically, within 48 hours of me making a firm statement like this, someone at ZOS trots out and contradicts it.

Spottswoode

I'd quit paying. Eventually, I'd quit playing as well. F2P/B2P is too gimmicky for any serious investment from me.

Neizir

I'll happily stay if it went B2P. Absolutely not if it went F2P.

WraithAzraiel

To all the people saying they'll unsub if ESO goes F2P. Look at your statement. You'll have no reason to stay sub'd to continue playing. Sooooooooo. Yea.

But if they do anything remotely close to SWTOR's F2P model, with the needing to be a continued subscriber to wear legendary gear, to do dungeons and PvP then I'll raise holy hell.

But if it's done in a way that doesn't suck, I'll stick around.

Faugaun

After experiencing several conversions first hand, absolutely I will leave and wait till I see another interesting subscription title. F2P and B2P always have bad game development models IMHO. Once a game goes that route the focus turns from creating a good quality title to mixed input of how to best monotize the title. These changes impact immersion and user experience. It also results in development of only content that appeals to the largest subgroup instead of rounding out the entire game. This leaves certain game aspects well polished and developed while others are frayed edges of the fabric.

I wish other people willing to spend money would take the stance of not supporting f2p with their $$. I would rather not support those to cheap to sub because their mentality ruins game atmospheres. Leave to p2w and 2c2p (too cheap too pay) to their own devices and keep me in subscription land.

skillastat

no I'll quit

Alexies

lordrichter wrote: »

1mirg wrote: »

it's not going f2p, it's going b2p.

I will hazard another statement and say that the probable outcome is that it will not do either. At least, not any time soon.

There are other options that they could take before they went this route, options that would be better indicators of a future F2P or B2P than what we have seen so far.

Like I said before, if they do go F2P or B2P this year, then I believe that they are in seriously dire financial circumstances. Life support is failing and the dilithium crystals are burnt out. Sauron's orcs have breached the walls. The Death Star is in orbit above.

I have yet to see anything that indicates dire financial circumstances.


EDIT: I will also point out that, historically, within 48 hours of me making a firm statement like this, someone at ZOS trots out and contradicts it.

no one's questioning whether or not ZOS treasury is low. people are ocncerned that they are going to drop the sub for the console versions, which surprise surprise is due to come out in a lot less than six months time (see the coincidence?)

I very much doubt console players will be happy about buying the game and paying a sub, one or the other would work well, even though I hope they aren't really going to destroy the game for the sake of consoles.

gurluasb16_ESO

B2P I'll stay. F2P, no.

reagen_lionel

How I see it. Free to Play will be a burden on the game. I can see all the monetization out of the ass. Inventory and bank space is already a pain as is.

It will just feel over all meh than it already does.

Xjcon

I heard they are going to raise the subscription fee to 20$......

ers101284b14_ESO

Xjcon wrote: »

I heard they are going to raise the subscription fee to 20$......

From who?

Xjcon

Just thought I'd make something up to go along with all the f2p stuff...

ers101284b14_ESO

Xjcon wrote: »

Just thought I'd make something up to go along with all the f2p stuff...

Oh ok gotcha

Zed

I'll probably quit if the game loses the subscription fee. The various flavors of "free-to-play" just don't suit me very well. Of course, players like me are easily replaced with F2P games so I don't think anyone would lose any sleep over it.

syxx210

Brandalf wrote: »

Inklings wrote: »

doesn't mater, already unsubed.

Can I have your stuff?

^ Agreed.

abigfishy

xMovingTarget wrote: »

they also kept the regular subscrition. With that running everything was like before it went F2P. You had access to everything and even got points per month to use in the shop + additional discount for everything in the store. With a system like that i wouldnt mind.

That is the best solution. If they go F2P leave subscription as an option and GUARANTEE that all subscribers get 100% access to all content.

Huggernaut

Hell no. F2P is where good games go to die.