Who's your favorite Daedric Prince?

Blud

Among the Daedra Lords, which one is your favorite? And what is your favorite experience with a Daedra Lord in any Elder Scrolls game?

For me, Azura has always been my favorite. It may go back to when I discovered her shrine in Morrowind. It was hard to find so I used a spell from alteration magic to set a recall bind point there so I could get back for the quest she gave.

Dracane

I despise Daedra in any form.
Liking them, is like insulting your ancestors and your own existence. (If you know the lore, you know what I'm talking about)
I myself only worship and value the Aedra, the divines. Mainly the 8 of the Altmer Pantheon, Auri-El is the most important

But I have to admit, that Hermaeus Mora is indeed interesting. As an Altmer, knowledge and intelligence is very important to me and Hermaeus Mora is..... seducing. But "To resist tempation, means TRUE strenght"

Rezzy64

Hermaeus Mora has always been my favorite Daedra since "Oblivion". The books, the pure knowledge... I mean in Nirn you can do anything you want... if you just know how to do it. Hermaeus will teach you... he will teach us all...

dodgehopper_ESO

I always find it odd that Shor is absent even though Kyne is not. I have to wonder, if the Aedra 'died' perhaps the husks that remain might actually be the Daedra, which would explain oddities like Trinimac becoming Malacath, or former lesser Aedra becoming Daedra (Meridia). There's also the similarity between certain figures such as Molag Bal and Arkay. Do they represent two sides of the same coin or two diametrically opposed forces? Magnus/Hermamora? Dibella/Sanguine?

At any regard I like the Herma-mora story in the Dragonborn patch of Skyrim probably the best, even if it is a bit dismal and makes you sad for the world of Nirn.

freespirit

Clavicus Vile, he appeals to my mischievous side....... and I love his voice.

and who can resist a talking dog?

Dracane

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

I always find it odd that Shor is absent even though Kyne is not. I have to wonder, if the Aedra 'died' perhaps the husks that remain might actually be the Daedra, which would explain oddities like Trinimac becoming Malacath, or former lesser Aedra becoming Daedra (Meridia). There's also the similarity between certain figures such as Molag Bal and Arkay. Do they represent two sides of the same coin or two diametrically opposed forces? Magnus/Hermamora? Dibella/Sanguine?

At any regard I like the Herma-mora story in the Dragonborn patch of Skyrim probably the best, even if it is a bit dismal and makes you sad for the world of Nirn.

I'm thinking about gods in Elder Scrolls a lot, since it is a very mysterious and weird topic. This theory is indeed interesting. There was also something about Mehrunes Dagon.... but I forgot it.
But for now, I will keep my belief as it is now.

Flexar

For me, as a big fan of Khajiit, it's got to be Azura (or Azurah, as the Khajiit know her). According to Khajiiti religion Azurah shaped the Khajiit into what they are: the fastest, cleverest and most beautiful of creatures, the best climbers and the best deceivers. Azurah is also responsible for the Khajiit's link to Jone and Jode. However, strictly speaking, she is an Aedra to them, as she is one of their ancestors.

dodgehopper_ESO

Flexar wrote: »

For me, as a big fan of Khajiit, it's got to be Azura (or Azurah, as the Khajiit know her). According to Khajiiti religion Azurah shaped the Khajiit into what they are: the fastest, cleverest and most beautiful of creatures, the best climbers and the best deceivers. Azurah is also responsible for the Khajiit's link to Jone and Jode. However, strictly speaking, she is an Aedra to them, as she is one of their ancestors.

This brings up exactly the point. Malacath is the father of the Orcs, but he's considered Daedra. Is that simply because he's not the ancestor of the Altmer? What then of boethiah, azura and mephala whom the dunmer claim to be their ancestors (at least in some sources)? The Ayleids seemed to follow Meridia, is she then their ancestor? Its curious anyway.

Blud

Uh...I'm out of my league here. Anyone have a link to the lore archives?

kallistiGAD

No love for Hircine? The honorable huntsman? What the oblivion?

Darkonflare15

I like Sheogorath his crazy dark humor charm is always so entertaining and doing his quest always are fun. I never see cheese the same way again.

Zorrashi

For me, personally, I like the daedric prince Vaermina. Though she is the mistress of night terrors and omens, she also seems to hold some sway, or at least high interest in some of the more nuanced aspects of planes of thought.

Her interest in memories and psychological torture makes her interesting in that she seems to like 'mind games' more so than any other daedric prince. In comparison, where other daedric princes use mortals like toys, action figures and puppets, Vaermina seems to deal with them more like puzzles. Like the other daedric princes who are more than willing to tear their dolls apart and make scribbles on their game board while throwing the pieces around, Vaermina seems to be the sort who likes the idea allowing certain pieces of her toy to be lost, reconstructed and morphed. A more inner form of manipulation, in some regards. I suppose dreams are the easiest manner in which to accomplish these activities.

Lionxoft

Me

Blud

Lionxoft wrote: »

Me

More explanation required, please.

AshySamurai

Favorite Daedric Prince(ss)

No, don't use search tool. It's better to create one more topic.

Lionxoft

AshySamurai wrote: »

Favorite Daedric Prince(ss)

No, don't use search tool. It's better to create one more topic.

The title of that thread is lore breaking. That is why there is a new thread.

/haha :P

Blud

AshySamurai wrote: »

Favorite Daedric Prince(ss)

No, don't use search tool. It's better to create one more topic.

It's the thread-police. I've been caught. I feel like when I was in grammar school and I asked the librarian in which section I might find a certain book, and the old lady would say, "Have you checked in the card catalog?"

Actually, by your leave, perhaps you can consider this thread as a little different than that one started back in May. This one is asking for a bit of a description about why and maybe something about quests or experiences involving that deity.

LMar

Flexar wrote: »

For me, as a big fan of Khajiit, it's got to be Azura (or Azurah, as the Khajiit know her). According to Khajiiti religion Azurah shaped the Khajiit into what they are: the fastest, cleverest and most beautiful of creatures, the best climbers and the best deceivers. Azurah is also responsible for the Khajiit's link to Jone and Jode. However, strictly speaking, she is an Aedra to them, as she is one of their ancestors.

She isn't an Aedra. She just changed (like all Deadra, change is what they are) elves into Khajiit and bound them to the Lunar Lattice. I am not sure if that means that she somehow bound their souls to Nirn now instead of their souls being free to recycle and/or go to Aetherius/ be free forever, like most elves want (most elves want their souls to escape the prison that is the mortal world).

Also @dodgehopper_ESO‌ , Malacath just considers Orcs to be his children because they are within his sphere of influence (.i.e the changed and marginalised, ostracised). I don't know if their souls suffered a same similar to the Khajiit (if that is even correct) when the change in Trinimac and his followers occured.
As for the Dark Elves and their Deadra it's not that those ones are their ancestors but more like they helped them to escape their former homeland and go to Morrowind (Resdayn) in the old days and in general appear to be helpful to them. (also consider that Azura "cursed" the Chimer into Dunmer, changing their skin and eye colour because of their "betrayal" in allowing ALMSIVI to become gods and abandon her).

In general while Deadra may appear to be helpful or do good things, always doubt their motives and what you may think is a good thing may turn out to be bad bad bad for the actual people involved.

(edit: I of course could be wrong and pls feel free to correct me/post your own opinions)

Stroggnonimus

For me the best will always be uncle Sheo from Shivering Isles DLC. Not a very original choice, but ... Cheese for everyone ! Or Mehrunes Dagon is kinda cool...

AshySamurai

Blud wrote: »

AshySamurai wrote: »

Favorite Daedric Prince(ss)

No, don't use search tool. It's better to create one more topic.

It's the thread-police. I've been caught. I feel like when I was in grammar school and I asked the librarian in which section I might find a certain book, and the old lady would say, "Have you checked in the card catalog?"

Actually, by your leave, perhaps you can consider this thread as a little different than that one started back in May. This one is asking for a bit of a description about why and maybe something about quests or experiences involving that deity.

Different. Sure. I linked a poll and this is simply a discussion. So much difference.

AlexDougherty

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

I always find it odd that Shor is absent even though Kyne is not. I have to wonder, if the Aedra 'died' perhaps the husks that remain might actually be the Daedra, which would explain oddities like Trinimac becoming Malacath, or former lesser Aedra becoming Daedra (Meridia). There's also the similarity between certain figures such as Molag Bal and Arkay. Do they represent two sides of the same coin or two diametrically opposed forces? Magnus/Hermamora? Dibella/Sanguine?

At any regard I like the Herma-mora story in the Dragonborn patch of Skyrim probably the best, even if it is a bit dismal and makes you sad for the world of Nirn.

Meridia was never an Aedra, she was an member of the Magne-Ge, but fled Aetherius BEFORE they took part in the creation of the universe.

Trinimac was the only Daedra to become something else, and he is technically not a Daedra (the other Daedra Princes don't recognise Malacanth as one of them, and he has no Daedra as followers). He also isn't an Aedra either, which means he is both not an Ancestor and not not an ancestor (yes double negative, not it's seperate from is an ancestor, so grammatically correct).

Muizer

Nocturnal. Why? The skeleton key.

ThatHappyCat

Peryite. Mainly because we know so little about him, and because he's often considered the "weakest" (whatever that means).

Moonscythe

Azura has been my prince since Morrowind. Maybe I just like mysterious purveyors of prophecy or maybe it's just because I am a child of the moon.

dodgehopper_ESO

To be fair, where I'm coming from, my main characters always stomp Daedra in the face wherever possible. I snub them, insult them, and otherwise anger them. Its just what I like to do. In Skyrim I definitely rooted for the vigilants and the Dawnguard. I do think to sum up though, I don't think the Aedric/Daedric difference is as clear as Altmer lore makes it out to be. With regard to the Reclamations/Velothi faith, I don't know the exact lorebooks involved, but the Dunmer (or some of them) did consider Azura, Mephala, and Boethiah to be their ancestors. I for one think the elves just want a grab at divinity, and so try to link themselves in that way. Much of what you see in Morrowind is the nuance of differences, and how really you end up knowing exactly nothing about the reality of the religions of Morrowind. It makes one wonder, the divine forces as you know them, were they divine because they wrestled control of divinity in some way (chim?) or were they like this for some other reason. I suppose I was just trying to bring up the intentional slushiness of the lore itself. Much of what is 'known' in TES doesn't really seem to be 'known'. This concept of 'dragon-born' for instance. What exactly does it mean? The Nerevarine prophecies call the Nerevarine a dragonborn. The Dragonborn who fights Alduin in Skyrim is a Dragonborn. Martin Septim is a Dragon born. Tiber Septim is a Dragonborn. Uriel Septim is a Dragonborn. Were all these dragonborn unique in any particular way, or did they all contain the same kind of 'divine spark' or essence?

newtinmpls

First of all, I agree that Bethesda leaves a lot implied and not clear - which allows for various cultures to have subjective (and occasionally very different) veiws of things. My understanding is that Aedra contributed to Lorkhan's 'project' and that Daedra did not, and the whole ancestor question is answered more by culture than by anying else.

I also like the idea that any Daedra or Aedra isn't necessarily "good" or "evil". Read about the four corners of the house of troubles, and you get a view of Malog Bal that isn't about evil, it's about testing and disrupting extremes

I think that's one of the strengths of this game-verse

TGiordano92

Hircine

driosketch

Among the Deadra I feel like Meridia is more my style, especially when it comes to the undead.

Koensol

I think they are all interesting in their own way. Couldn't really pick a favourite to be honest. But just for the heck of it I'm saying Hermaeus Mora.

LMar

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

The Nerevarine prophecies call the Nerevarine a dragonborn.

Where was this? I don't remember it

Sleep

By Azura by Azura by Azura