vampires and werewolves, Hot or Not?

Skullemainia

Hi,
Personally I love playing a vampire and I also have a char that is a werewolf. I love them both, and I don't understand the hate about it?? there is one thing that bothers me, a lot of players just become ww to have the extra stamina regen and the extra ultimate since update 5, I think it was a bad thing that zenimax has removed the poisondmg if you are human.

and now ww have more and better skills then before, what I really like. I really hope vamp. get some extra skills to. being a vamp has a lot more downsides then being a ww. firedmg is way more common then poison dmg, in PvP and PvE. and vamps have a healthregen reduction!!! yes I know ww abbilities you can only use when you are transformed, but there is no downside about being a ww. and when you are transformed you are almoust unbeatable! (in PvE, don't know about PvP) and now you have 5 great skills that not only use stamina but also magica for healing!!

vamps only have two magica spells; a verry powerfull healing/dmg dealing spell and a useless stealth skill, so all together we have one skill, that's it. and of course we have some great passives to (wich ww also have).

maybe drain essence should be a little bit less powerful, but then they have to give us a dmg dealing skill and/or a fair skill and/or a shield skill and/or a crit. skill,....

so what do you think? do vamps need to have more skills, is the ww poison dmg something that have to come back?

Audigy

I would love to play a Vampire if it would mean I can not walk in the sunlight, have to hide in sewers or dark castles ...

Sadly, all of this isn't a part of ESO, therefore I stay away from that.

It has nothing to do with hate, its just that Vampires are so lore unfriendly in any MMO that I played, that they don't make sense to me.

WW´s are in a similar spot, they should only transform during full moon and if they do become incredible powerful, so powerful that they could in theory raid a dungeon alone.

In general,

I am just not a fan of the Twilight lore that is used these days, its so silly, but I guess it works for people.

Skullemainia

I understand you, but if you think about it would be awful to be a ww or vamp that way, wouldn't it?

I would love to play a Vampire if it would mean I can not walk in the sunlight, have to hide in sewers or dark castles ...

really?? there's a 4 hour day and knight cycle in the game, so if I am unlucky and I log in when it's just day time, I would have to hide in a dark place for 4 hours?? that would suck!!

WW´s are in a similar spot, they should only transform during full moon and if they do become incredible powerful, so powerful that they could in theory raid a dungeon alone.

so if we have a 4 hour cycle, that means that we only can become a ww once in +- 5 day's real time, and you would have to be playing the exact moment of that day, so when it's in the middle of the night for you, then you are screwed


lore wise it would make sense and it would be cool. but practical no one would be vamp or ww, and it would suck to be one

Rosveen

Skullemainia wrote: »

lore wise it would make sense and it would be cool. but practical no one would be vamp or ww, and it would suck to be one

It should suck to be one. You should be shunned by society. I won't go as far as asking for day/night/moon phase system because people can't and shouldn't have to schedule their lives around a video game, but we also shouldn't be allowed to walk freely through town in broad daylight as a transformed werewolf or phase 4 vampire. There should be secret powers, but also significant penalties for choosing this kind of life - not just "well, I guess I can't stand in fire anymore."

Skullemainia

Rosveen wrote: »

Skullemainia wrote: »

lore wise it would make sense and it would be cool. but practical no one would be vamp or ww, and it would suck to be one

It should suck to be one. You should be shunned by society. I won't go as far as asking for day/night/moon phase system because people can't and shouldn't have to schedule their lives around a video game, but we also shouldn't be allowed to walk freely through town in broad daylight as a transformed werewolf or phase 4 vampire. There should be secret powers, but also significant penalties for choosing this kind of life - not just "well, I guess I can't stand in fire anymore."

yeah, maybe justice system can do something about that??

AshySamurai

I always wanted WW be a little more powerful, but ZOS made it FOTM.

Emencie

Skullemainia wrote: »

being a vamp has a lot more downsides then being a ww. firedmg is way more common then poison dmg, in PvP and PvE. and vamps have a healthregen reduction!!! yes I know ww abbilities you can only use when you are transformed, but there is no downside about being a ww. and when you are transformed you are almoust unbeatable! (in PvE, don't know about PvP)d of course we have some great passives to (wich ww also have).

I don't know about PvE but in PvP this is the exact opposite. Vampires rule the field. Their skills are incredibly potent and most importantly they are useable in human form. Generally speaking in werewolf form you are weaker than if you simply stayed human. Because vampires can stay in human form with access to all their class/weapon abilities they are more powerful for it, even with the fire damage bonus. Werewolves are rarely seen (in form) because they are easily killed, since they lose access to all their survivability, mobility and ranged damage.

By removing the poison damage from werewolves they made it no longer a debuff to be one. Like back when they were both weaker than human when they transform, and take more damage from poison while a human.

phreatophile

Rosveen wrote: »

Skullemainia wrote: »

lore wise it would make sense and it would be cool. but practical no one would be vamp or ww, and it would suck to be one

It should suck to be one. You should be shunned by society. I won't go as far as asking for day/night/moon phase system because people can't and shouldn't have to schedule their lives around a video game, but we also shouldn't be allowed to walk freely through town in broad daylight as a transformed werewolf or phase 4 vampire. There should be secret powers, but also significant penalties for choosing this kind of life - not just "well, I guess I can't stand in fire anymore."

A someone with 3 Vet Rank Vampires, I want harsh daylight penalties. They should not be pile of ash/goo the moment you see sunlight harsh, but weakened enough to be impractical in anything difficult. We're vampires, when the Suns up we should play indoors or underground. That said, they must fix the unbalanced day/night cycle to be of equal length or give us some zones where the nights are longer than the days.