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EP , DC and AD are all infiltrated by the same group of players

  • Asgari
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    Roselle wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Roselle wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    I only play one faction , DC . I don't mind loosing over and over again . I just enjoy pvp . I do care about the game because I like it but I don't loose sleep over it . Some people can't stand loosing and associate video game life with some form of accomplishment . Their needs lead to dubious actions in game .

    I stay on one side not because of faction loyalty or I don't honestly like the opposite players . I stay on one side because I think that was the intention of the game designers . Also , the friends and guilds I'm with put it their personal time to help one another for their alliance . What does that say about me if I just pissed on that time they invested ? I'd rather have friends to laugh and joke with then jog the system .

    In the past the only time I've switched factions in a game was when pvp was dying do to imbalance . I prefer fighting out numbered .

    I'm just sitting here thinking about the extra effort you're putting into the space bar before your ending punctuation instead of actually providing any useful remarks.

    You sound mad . . . . . . .

    I'm always mad.

    She's just fishing for a reaction.

    Agrippa how do you feel about this topic? As someone who plays responsible and isn't for "night capping" would you be sad if we couldn't chat about how I'm best DK NA all night?
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  • Darlgon
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    Uh, if this is in fact a problem, and I am not convinced that Zenimax would see this as a problem, then there is really only one solution.

    Campaign and Alliance should be fixed at the player level, not the character level.

    All characters of the same Alliance would be able to enter the Campaign, once selected, and characters from the other two Alliances would not be able to enter Cyrodiil at all.

    Same rules for changing Campaigns apply, but it would apply to all characters on the account.

    Alliance changes would be something for a future Update but I think it should be an order of magnitude larger than Campaign changes.

    Funny. That kinda sounds like what they had before they revamped the AVA campaigns. If your account had a character from one alliance in that campaign, you were not supposed to be able to log an alt from another alliance in that campaign. Near as I can tell, that went out the window with the campaign revamps.

    Something about people whining that each faction had a campaign served as a buff campaign for PVEers in one alliance but was desolate and no players from the other factions wanted to go to.. Wait. that sounds familiar..
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  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    Roselle wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Roselle wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    I only play one faction , DC . I don't mind loosing over and over again . I just enjoy pvp . I do care about the game because I like it but I don't loose sleep over it . Some people can't stand loosing and associate video game life with some form of accomplishment . Their needs lead to dubious actions in game .

    I stay on one side not because of faction loyalty or I don't honestly like the opposite players . I stay on one side because I think that was the intention of the game designers . Also , the friends and guilds I'm with put it their personal time to help one another for their alliance . What does that say about me if I just pissed on that time they invested ? I'd rather have friends to laugh and joke with then jog the system .

    In the past the only time I've switched factions in a game was when pvp was dying do to imbalance . I prefer fighting out numbered .

    I'm just sitting here thinking about the extra effort you're putting into the space bar before your ending punctuation instead of actually providing any useful remarks.

    You sound mad . . . . . . .

    I'm always mad.

    She's just fishing for a reaction.

    Agrippa how do you feel about this topic? As someone who plays responsible and isn't for "night capping" would you be sad if we couldn't chat about how I'm best DK NA all night?

    What would make anyone think you're the best DK in NA?

    Just in DC there's still the line of Naw Sunrest, Centechlong, Emberscale, Mrs. Jones, Hovaling, and others that you have to get past to reach the title.

    On AD side there's obviously Snargatron you'd have to surpass.

    Don't get me started EP side.

    I don't think you'd be able to night cap that title away from them.
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  • FluffiestOne
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    What you didn't know, is everyone of us are in the same guild called "Illuminati" and we feed eachother AP all day and night. We are secretly a guild of the best players NA dedicated to making you all look horrible. *Cue dramatic music*
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  • k1llorbek1lled
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    What you didn't know, is everyone of us are in the same guild called "Illuminati" and we feed eachother AP all day and night. We are secretly a guild of the best players NA dedicated to making you all look horrible. *Cue dramatic music*

    but youre awful and a fake fixate... EP zone is always like "fake fixate dead"
    stop the zerging
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    This thread goes great with Toast .
  • Juraigr
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    Why does everyone assume fixate.is a fake, eu player here
    Edited by Juraigr on December 18, 2014 7:49PM
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    Because he is at least 1.5x as fluffy as old Fixate
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  • FluffiestOne
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    Juraigr wrote: »
    Why does everyone assume fixate.is a fake, eu player here

    As a great rapper once said, " They can't sweat my swag. "
    Edited by FluffiestOne on December 18, 2014 7:55PM
    Fluffy
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  • FluffiestOne
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    What you didn't know, is everyone of us are in the same guild called "Illuminati" and we feed eachother AP all day and night. We are secretly a guild of the best players NA dedicated to making you all look horrible. *Cue dramatic music*

    but youre awful and a fake fixate... EP zone is always like "fake fixate dead"

    I don't die that often, they must take pride in knowing I'm going to come back and roflstomp their pugs and eat their alliance points.
    Fluffy
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    Fliffers, Daggerfall Liberator of Hopesfire, Templar.
    Prophet Fluffy of Death, Casual of the Dominion, Sorceror.
    Nozdorumu The Timeless, Daggerfall. Dragon. Nightblade.
    All my toon names are subject to change.
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  • Asgari
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    Roselle wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Roselle wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    I only play one faction , DC . I don't mind loosing over and over again . I just enjoy pvp . I do care about the game because I like it but I don't loose sleep over it . Some people can't stand loosing and associate video game life with some form of accomplishment . Their needs lead to dubious actions in game .

    I stay on one side not because of faction loyalty or I don't honestly like the opposite players . I stay on one side because I think that was the intention of the game designers . Also , the friends and guilds I'm with put it their personal time to help one another for their alliance . What does that say about me if I just pissed on that time they invested ? I'd rather have friends to laugh and joke with then jog the system .

    In the past the only time I've switched factions in a game was when pvp was dying do to imbalance . I prefer fighting out numbered .

    I'm just sitting here thinking about the extra effort you're putting into the space bar before your ending punctuation instead of actually providing any useful remarks.

    You sound mad . . . . . . .

    I'm always mad.

    She's just fishing for a reaction.

    Agrippa how do you feel about this topic? As someone who plays responsible and isn't for "night capping" would you be sad if we couldn't chat about how I'm best DK NA all night?

    What would make anyone think you're the best DK in NA?

    Just in DC there's still the line of Naw Sunrest, Centechlong, Emberscale, Mrs. Jones, Hovaling, and others that you have to get past to reach the title.

    On AD side there's obviously Snargatron you'd have to surpass.

    Don't get me started EP side.

    I don't think you'd be able to night cap that title away from them.

    Hahaha .. Been having a rough day, I knew I could count on you for a good laugh. On a serious note I do miss centechlong, ember scale and Antwerp. Hova is just away on vacation and still get to hear that sexy voice on a daily basis.

    Ember and Antwerp need to come back, DC could use that dynamic duo.
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  • WraithAzraiel
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    Roselle wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Roselle wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    I only play one faction , DC . I don't mind loosing over and over again . I just enjoy pvp . I do care about the game because I like it but I don't loose sleep over it . Some people can't stand loosing and associate video game life with some form of accomplishment . Their needs lead to dubious actions in game .

    I stay on one side not because of faction loyalty or I don't honestly like the opposite players . I stay on one side because I think that was the intention of the game designers . Also , the friends and guilds I'm with put it their personal time to help one another for their alliance . What does that say about me if I just pissed on that time they invested ? I'd rather have friends to laugh and joke with then jog the system .

    In the past the only time I've switched factions in a game was when pvp was dying do to imbalance . I prefer fighting out numbered .

    I'm just sitting here thinking about the extra effort you're putting into the space bar before your ending punctuation instead of actually providing any useful remarks.

    You sound mad . . . . . . .

    I'm always mad.

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  • Roselle
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    Roselle wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Roselle wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    I only play one faction , DC . I don't mind loosing over and over again . I just enjoy pvp . I do care about the game because I like it but I don't loose sleep over it . Some people can't stand loosing and associate video game life with some form of accomplishment . Their needs lead to dubious actions in game .

    I stay on one side not because of faction loyalty or I don't honestly like the opposite players . I stay on one side because I think that was the intention of the game designers . Also , the friends and guilds I'm with put it their personal time to help one another for their alliance . What does that say about me if I just pissed on that time they invested ? I'd rather have friends to laugh and joke with then jog the system .

    In the past the only time I've switched factions in a game was when pvp was dying do to imbalance . I prefer fighting out numbered .

    I'm just sitting here thinking about the extra effort you're putting into the space bar before your ending punctuation instead of actually providing any useful remarks.

    You sound mad . . . . . . .

    I'm always mad.

    She's just fishing for a reaction.

    You do not turn my frown upside down with your puns.

    =(
    This one was rekt by Zenimax
  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    Roselle wrote: »
    Roselle wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Roselle wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    I only play one faction , DC . I don't mind loosing over and over again . I just enjoy pvp . I do care about the game because I like it but I don't loose sleep over it . Some people can't stand loosing and associate video game life with some form of accomplishment . Their needs lead to dubious actions in game .

    I stay on one side not because of faction loyalty or I don't honestly like the opposite players . I stay on one side because I think that was the intention of the game designers . Also , the friends and guilds I'm with put it their personal time to help one another for their alliance . What does that say about me if I just pissed on that time they invested ? I'd rather have friends to laugh and joke with then jog the system .

    In the past the only time I've switched factions in a game was when pvp was dying do to imbalance . I prefer fighting out numbered .

    I'm just sitting here thinking about the extra effort you're putting into the space bar before your ending punctuation instead of actually providing any useful remarks.

    You sound mad . . . . . . .

    I'm always mad.

    She's just fishing for a reaction.

    You do not turn my frown upside down with your puns.

    =(


    One day you'll take the bait.
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  • Roechacca
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    Less QQ more Pew Pew . The kool kids play one faction in pvp .
  • Asgari
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    roechacca wrote: »
    Less QQ more Pew Pew . The kool kids play one faction in pvp .

    Quoted since you called me a cool kid :blush:
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  • Roselle
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    Roselle wrote: »
    Roselle wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Roselle wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    I only play one faction , DC . I don't mind loosing over and over again . I just enjoy pvp . I do care about the game because I like it but I don't loose sleep over it . Some people can't stand loosing and associate video game life with some form of accomplishment . Their needs lead to dubious actions in game .

    I stay on one side not because of faction loyalty or I don't honestly like the opposite players . I stay on one side because I think that was the intention of the game designers . Also , the friends and guilds I'm with put it their personal time to help one another for their alliance . What does that say about me if I just pissed on that time they invested ? I'd rather have friends to laugh and joke with then jog the system .

    In the past the only time I've switched factions in a game was when pvp was dying do to imbalance . I prefer fighting out numbered .

    I'm just sitting here thinking about the extra effort you're putting into the space bar before your ending punctuation instead of actually providing any useful remarks.

    You sound mad . . . . . . .

    I'm always mad.

    She's just fishing for a reaction.

    You do not turn my frown upside down with your puns.

    =(


    One day you'll take the bait.

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  • Ghostbane
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    Less Pew Pew more QQ pls.
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    ...

    Edited by Xexpo on December 18, 2014 8:51PM
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  • Manoekin
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    roechacca wrote: »
    Less QQ more Pew Pew . The kool kids play one faction in pvp .

    Quoted since you called me a cool kid :blush:

    now you're just assuming things. Clearly he meant AD
  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    Roselle wrote: »
    Roselle wrote: »
    Roselle wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Roselle wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    I only play one faction , DC . I don't mind loosing over and over again . I just enjoy pvp . I do care about the game because I like it but I don't loose sleep over it . Some people can't stand loosing and associate video game life with some form of accomplishment . Their needs lead to dubious actions in game .

    I stay on one side not because of faction loyalty or I don't honestly like the opposite players . I stay on one side because I think that was the intention of the game designers . Also , the friends and guilds I'm with put it their personal time to help one another for their alliance . What does that say about me if I just pissed on that time they invested ? I'd rather have friends to laugh and joke with then jog the system .

    In the past the only time I've switched factions in a game was when pvp was dying do to imbalance . I prefer fighting out numbered .

    I'm just sitting here thinking about the extra effort you're putting into the space bar before your ending punctuation instead of actually providing any useful remarks.

    You sound mad . . . . . . .

    I'm always mad.

    She's just fishing for a reaction.

    You do not turn my frown upside down with your puns.

    =(


    One day you'll take the bait.

    mipuke.JPG

    You just got Monkey Island™ed

    I loved that game.
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  • Dreyloch
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    Juraigr wrote: »
    Why does everyone assume fixate.is a fake, eu player here

    As a great rapper once said, " They can't sweat my swag. "

    As another great rapper once said " Yo Dawg,We heard you like PvP. So I made these forums so you can fight...while you fight!"
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  • Roechacca
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    kaer426 wrote: »
    ...

    Seen the video . Thanks . Ya it's best not to post it in these forums . It shows exploiting a game mechanic . I hope a Dev got a copy .
  • Subtomik
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    Illuminooty confirmed?

    thats how everyone rank 30+ in the game got there, AP trading and being in a secret guild?



    but on a serious not, and im sure my AD and EP brothers feel the same way. You guys think we sit around and mooch or something or cheat our way to the top. but this is what we really do all day, until us few gods stumble upon some titans, then the real fun begins.




    And no, most of the top players dont have alts on other factions, and any EP will tell you(my old main) that when I log on my EP on thorn I have never done a thing shady, I transist right to the front, finish my daily kill quests and log.

    So yes, a lot of the "top players" are friends. We have been killing each other for 6 months to a year, and we are allowed to talk cross faction so uhhhh...ya some of us out of mutual respect have become friends.
  • Asgari
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    Subtomik wrote: »
    Illuminooty confirmed?

    thats how everyone rank 30+ in the game got there, AP trading and being in a secret guild?



    but on a serious not, and im sure my AD and EP brothers feel the same way. You guys think we sit around and mooch or something or cheat our way to the top. but this is what we really do all day, until us few gods stumble upon some titans, then the real fun begins.




    And no, most of the top players dont have alts on other factions, and any EP will tell you(my old main) that when I log on my EP on thorn I have never done a thing shady, I transist right to the front, finish my daily kill quests and log.

    So yes, a lot of the "top players" are friends. We have been killing each other for 6 months to a year, and we are allowed to talk cross faction so uhhhh...ya some of us out of mutual respect have become friends.

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  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    Subtomik wrote: »
    Illuminooty confirmed?

    thats how everyone rank 30+ in the game got there, AP trading and being in a secret guild?



    but on a serious not, and im sure my AD and EP brothers feel the same way. You guys think we sit around and mooch or something or cheat our way to the top. but this is what we really do all day, until us few gods stumble upon some titans, then the real fun begins.




    And no, most of the top players dont have alts on other factions, and any EP will tell you(my old main) that when I log on my EP on thorn I have never done a thing shady, I transist right to the front, finish my daily kill quests and log.

    So yes, a lot of the "top players" are friends. We have been killing each other for 6 months to a year, and we are allowed to talk cross faction so uhhhh...ya some of us out of mutual respect have become friends.

    Except for you, Subby.

    You're a big meany head!

    (That's what you get for leaving me at that Parisian cafe!)
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    Once a General, now a Citizen
    Former Emperor of Bloodthorn and Vivec
    For Sweetrolls! FOR FIMIAN!
  • Asgari
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    Subtomik wrote: »
    Illuminooty confirmed?

    thats how everyone rank 30+ in the game got there, AP trading and being in a secret guild?



    but on a serious not, and im sure my AD and EP brothers feel the same way. You guys think we sit around and mooch or something or cheat our way to the top. but this is what we really do all day, until us few gods stumble upon some titans, then the real fun begins.




    And no, most of the top players dont have alts on other factions, and any EP will tell you(my old main) that when I log on my EP on thorn I have never done a thing shady, I transist right to the front, finish my daily kill quests and log.

    So yes, a lot of the "top players" are friends. We have been killing each other for 6 months to a year, and we are allowed to talk cross faction so uhhhh...ya some of us out of mutual respect have become friends.

    Except for you, Subby.

    You're a big meany head!

    (That's what you get for leaving me at that Parisian cafe!)

    :wink:
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  • Roechacca
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    Subtomik wrote: »
    Illuminooty confirmed?

    thats how everyone rank 30+ in the game got there, AP trading and being in a secret guild?



    but on a serious not, and im sure my AD and EP brothers feel the same way. You guys think we sit around and mooch or something or cheat our way to the top. but this is what we really do all day, until us few gods stumble upon some titans, then the real fun begins.




    And no, most of the top players dont have alts on other factions, and any EP will tell you(my old main) that when I log on my EP on thorn I have never done a thing shady, I transist right to the front, finish my daily kill quests and log.

    So yes, a lot of the "top players" are friends. We have been killing each other for 6 months to a year, and we are allowed to talk cross faction so uhhhh...ya some of us out of mutual respect have become friends.

    Who said You ? There Ya go again thinking someone's talking about You . I imagine you feel better now having aired out your secrets . Are you the ring leader of the honey comb hideout ?!

    No need to defend your play style , this was information for people that couldn't understand what was happening in their factions . Cause at least when people know they can go "ohhh it's those kids" instead of raging on the forums or in zone chat .

    But if this helped Ya get something off your chest , then good for you Chiefkins
    Edited by Roechacca on December 18, 2014 10:10PM
  • Subtomik
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    I assumed the "booty" was a target at No Mercy, I dont know of another guild that calls AP=Booty lol
  • Roselle
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    Subtomik wrote: »
    I assumed the "booty" was a target at No Mercy, I dont know of another guild that calls AP=Booty lol

    Maybe they're pirates.
    This one was rekt by Zenimax
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