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Bat Swarm. IS it a SPELL?

Goldie
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Why is Bat Swarm "silenced" when it is an ULTIMATE and not a spell? Can you answer that one?

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  • Turelus
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    All class abilities and ultimates are considered spells in the game.

    If you're having issues with negate or other silence effects try CC breaking or using the active Heavy Armour skill to make yourself immune.
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  • Goldie
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    Turelus wrote: »
    All class abilities and ultimates are considered spells in the game.

    If you're having issues with negate or other silence effects try CC breaking or using the active Heavy Armour skill to make yourself immune.

    It is the negate, in my mind, if the damn ability does not use Magicka, then it should NOT be silenced.
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  • Turelus
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    The abilities use spell damage (maybe weapon damage now as well? was that a change?) and spell crit however.

    I would be fine for ZOS to make more changes for ultimates however, I really dislike that the mages guild one can be reflected by a DK.
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  • ThatHappyCat
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    Turelus wrote: »
    The abilities use spell damage (maybe weapon damage now as well? was that a change?) and spell crit however.

    I would be fine for ZOS to make more changes for ultimates however, I really dislike that the mages guild one can be reflected by a DK.

    Ultimates use whatever attributes are the highest out of magicka/stamina and spell power/weapon power. Not sure about crit but I think they use the highest value as well.

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    Can you negate a negate? Can you negate the negate that negated the first negate ? Mind = Blown
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  • NordJitsu
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    The whole point of Negate is to remove these kinds of effects.

    It would be absurd if Bat Swarm couldn't be silenced.

    You just don't want people to be able to use counter-play against you.

    In other words, L2P.
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  • Goldie
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    NordJitsu wrote: »
    The whole point of Negate is to remove these kinds of effects.

    It would be absurd if Bat Swarm couldn't be silenced.

    You just don't want people to be able to use counter-play against you.

    In other words, L2P.

    Then Bat Swarm should not be an ultimate. It does not use Magicka, so why does it or any other ability for that matter, that does not use Magicka, become silenced? Makes no sense.

    If I am silenced I should still be able to use Ultimates.

    GFY.
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  • NordJitsu
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    That is such a ridiculous and illogical stance....

    Dragon Knight Standard, Nova, Storm Atronoch, ect. ect. ect. can all be silenced. You just don't want your ultimate to be able to be silenced?

    Should CC break also not apply to your CCs?

    These are the mechanics of the game. Learn to play with them.

    PS.

    To engage in your semantic and irrelevant train of argument, how do you think you're casting those bats? Where do they come from? Are you keeping them in your pocket? Are they just well trained? Why do they return health to you character?

    Could they, perhaps, be magical?
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