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Block and casting

Vunter
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So I wanted to get some LOLs for a new badge and I know that if someone try to say anything remotely related to a "nerf" you're gonna give me some..
Soo.. Here I go..

Block and Casting.
You know, that mechanic of the game you use to get a huge damage received reduction on your char while spamming instant skills.
If you have a self heal/health shield skill on your bar..
Congrats! You officially became a pro in this game and remember to say you are invincible only because of your skill!

I know what you're probably gonna say.
I'm a mage IRL :open_mouth:

"Hey, but this game isn't designed for 1 vs 1 pvp battles.. It's fair people with shields can wreck 2-3 people alone and have +50% health at the end of the fight"
Is it really fair? Think about it.
IMO, no. I said "IMO", now you can't argue against me >:)

"Dude, just use a fear skill!"
Well.. You know.. You can break CCs... And not everyone's a nightblade or want to slot a stupid undaunted skill that works only with synergy right?

"But if they break CCs they won't have stamina!"
Ah! You tought a mighty warrior with shields would use stamina skills? Maybe to close the gap they use an invasion, but notice that after that they use only magicka skills if they know what they're doing.

"So.. another thread for complaining, how shameful that you are trying to discuss with people about something!"
Not gonna talk about the actual subject of my topic but only about how you don't like "complaining". Nice!

Just range him already!
Invasion. And not everyone use ranged weapons and even with a ranged weapon you do little damage.. Especially if the block and caster can reflect projectiles
(I'm not saying DKs are OP and I don't want to discuss about this class if it's possible.. It tends to get messy when someone talk about them lol
All the classes have a potential block and cast build)

"Everyone can block and cast! It's a fair mechanic!"
This is true, technically. But block and casting is effective only on builds specialized for it. Notice that specialized doesn't necessarily mean "studied".
As I said, you just have to put some instant cast skills in your bar, a skill for healing and/or a skill for a health shield, then you're done.
Stamina users can't block and cast since they would run out of resources.

"What about PVE!? I hate those PVP players that come here and say "Buff this nerf that!""
Ok, I'm gonna be honest. I don't do PVE anymore and I've never tried to do a Trial.
I'm just not interesed...
About Trials, I saw some videos and stuff, but meh, they all look like big dungeons in which people try to get as much damage as possible and count only who has got the biggest.. staff.
Anyway, back on subject. We already have a buff that we get only in Cyrodiil.. I can't see why this buff couldn't include some changes to the skills or combat mechanics, for example...

..Reduction of damage you deal while blocking!
Hurray!

You can DPS as much as a damage dealer while being invincible right now.
If the block and caster would just be invicible and try to get the attention of the enemies while the other people of his alliance do the major part in dealing damage, I'd be fine with this.
But ZOS is like "NOPE!"

Now.. I can't say an exact % of damage reduced if the mechanic I tought would be in game.. But if it was for me, I'd start with a 30% of damage reduced if you are block and casting with a shield, 50% if you are using another weapon, since the shield is specialized in blocking and, if we want to be honest, block and casting doesn't make sense except for this one, since you have a weapon in a hand and a shield in the other.

Feel free to discuss/give me LOLs now!
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    I am not going to help you get lols so I am going to abuse the Insightful button.
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    You are wrong.
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    PBpsy wrote: »
    I am not going to help you get lols so I am going to abuse the Insightful button.
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    You are wrong.
    Just try to read what I wrote before replying ploz.
    Edited by Vunter on December 12, 2014 10:59PM
  • Shunravi
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    Vunter wrote: »
    PBpsy wrote: »
    I am not going to help you get lols so I am going to abuse the Insightful button.
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    You are wrong.
    Just try to read what I wrote before replying ploz.

    I did. You are wrong.
    This one has an eloquent and well thought out response to tha... Ooh sweetroll!
  • Vunter
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    Shunravi wrote: »
    Vunter wrote: »
    PBpsy wrote: »
    I am not going to help you get lols so I am going to abuse the Insightful button.
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    You are wrong.
    Just try to read what I wrote before replying ploz.

    I did. You are wrong.
    Even if I am, it still took some effort to write all that text.
    Can you write a proper reply with arguments and stuff?
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    Vunter wrote: »
    PBpsy wrote: »
    I am not going to help you get lols so I am going to abuse the Insightful button.
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    You are wrong.
    Just try to read what I wrote before replying ploz.

    I read It and the only thing that isn't stupid buthurt "I get killed in pvp because I am bad but I can find an excuse" nonsense is the part about me being a mage in real life. That is completely true.
    Vunter wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    Vunter wrote: »
    PBpsy wrote: »
    I am not going to help you get lols so I am going to abuse the Insightful button.
    ...
    You are wrong.
    Just try to read what I wrote before replying ploz.

    I did. You are wrong.
    Even if I am, it still took some effort to write all that text.
    Can you write a proper reply with arguments and stuff?

    Nope we can't. We either don't care enough about your damn opinion or we do not want to write yet another post about the subject that has been beaten to death and has 5 threads in the first 3 forum pages.
    Edited by PBpsy on December 12, 2014 11:08PM
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    PBpsy wrote: »
    Vunter wrote: »
    PBpsy wrote: »
    I am not going to help you get lols so I am going to abuse the Insightful button.
    ...
    You are wrong.
    Just try to read what I wrote before replying ploz.

    I read It and the only thing that isn't stupid buthurt "I get killed in pvp because I am bad but I can find an excuse" nonsense is the part about me being a mage in real life. That is completely true.
    Buthurt. Wow. Sorry, it may be just me, but when someone says that word I can't take him seriously.
    Don't wanna flame, but dude... I don't think this is the best you can do, I don't know how you are IRL but I believe in you!
    Write something useful for a proper discussion.
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    PBpsy wrote: »
    Nope we can't. We either don't care enough about your damn opinion or we do not want to write yet another post about the subject that has been beaten to death and has 5 threads in the first 3 forum pages.
    Well, it's good we are using computers.. You can copy past dear.
    Or you can do whatever you want, i'm not your mum :v

    Edit:
    Oh and I suggest to not write "we" since you can speak only for yourself.
    Edited by Vunter on December 12, 2014 11:17PM
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    Vunter wrote: »
    PBpsy wrote: »
    Nope we can't. We either don't care enough about your damn opinion or we do not want to write yet another post about the subject that has been beaten to death and has 5 threads in the first 3 forum pages.
    Well, it's good we are using computers.. You can copy past dear.
    Or you can do whatever you want, i'm not your mum :v

    Edit:
    Oh and I suggest to not write "we" since you can speak only for yourself.

    Damn aren't you Insightful. :p
    Edited by PBpsy on December 12, 2014 11:20PM
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    PBpsy wrote: »
    Vunter wrote: »
    PBpsy wrote: »
    Nope we can't. We either don't care enough about your damn opinion or we do not want to write yet another post about the subject that has been beaten to death and has 5 threads in the first 3 forum pages.
    Well, it's good we are using computers.. You can copy past dear.
    Or you can do whatever you want, i'm not your mum :v

    Edit:
    Oh and I suggest to not write "we" since you can speak only for yourself.

    Damn aren't you Insightful. :p
    Oh Akatosh.
    Firstly, english isn't even my main language.
    Secondly, you are the one that beliefs he represents random people and can use "we". But what I wrote now is the same as before, except i added fancy words..

    Anyway, I wanted to talk about block and casting and not about us, my dear.
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    Vunter wrote: »
    ..Reduction of damage you deal while blocking!

    Sure. But also give the same amount of reduced damage to extra mitigation for the 1h&S user.
    So it would be...
    -30% outgoing damage.
    +30% incoming damage.
    Deal?
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    Vunter wrote: »
    PBpsy wrote: »
    Vunter wrote: »
    PBpsy wrote: »
    Nope we can't. We either don't care enough about your damn opinion or we do not want to write yet another post about the subject that has been beaten to death and has 5 threads in the first 3 forum pages.
    Well, it's good we are using computers.. You can copy past dear.
    Or you can do whatever you want, i'm not your mum :v

    Edit:
    Oh and I suggest to not write "we" since you can speak only for yourself.

    Damn aren't you Insightful. :p
    Oh Akatosh.
    Firstly, english isn't even my main language.
    Secondly, you are the one that beliefs he represents random people and can use "we". But what I wrote now is the same as before, except i added fancy words..

    Anyway, I wanted to talk about block and casting and not about us, my dear.

    Engrish is a also not my first languish deary, (or is it dreary ?). But I want to talk about "us" sweety! I think we/ushas a future together. Less *** block casting, more luv.
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