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My question as of late (Regarding skill improvement)
Evandus
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Morning Folks!
So, I have a gaggle of characters and two accounts nowadays. Even though I don't get to play as much due to the work schedule (being medical sucks sometimes), I've done everything I can to have a character handy to play in this game regardless of what I'm in the mood for or what the group needs. I'm the guy that will readily swap characters so we can get (insert run here) done without standing around for an hour or longer. But again, depends on my mood.
So I'm looking at my stable of characters this am (day off - heck yeah). And I'm noticing that amongst the V14 I've some skills to improve. As an example, looking at my DK Pyromage - she needs to go ahead and max out evil hunter/flawless dawnbreaker. And a few other things I'm sure. Only on my first cup of joe...
Anyway, after running a couple of pledge dungeons and a couple of Cadwell's Silver quests (yeah I skipped it - get over yourself
) I've noticed little to no movement after picking up quest rewards. This perplexes me, so I'm bringing my concerns here to discuss.
I'm seriously not getting what's happening here. It used to be that you could level up your skills quickly by grinding mobs. And although I'm quite used to that, I haven't been in the mood so far today. Anyway, my questions:
1. Is the concept of mob grinding for hours and hours all that's left to improve skills at a reasonable rate now?
2. Why is it that I'm getting VP rewards on my characters, but see no skill movement?
If the only way left now to improve skills past level 50 is to grind mobs, there are going to be some really pissed lowbies running around Coldharbour today. I have a no lines, no waiting attitude when gathering up regular xp to improve character skills. Oftentimes meaning I'm just clearing the field over and over again and ignoring complaints. Hate to have to do that again, but whatever...
To ZOS; when are we going to see killing mobs that give VP actually do something for skill improvement? And why do I feel forced to look for level 44 and up mobs and steal them from lowbies to improve my character? Isn't that just encouraging bad behavior, like Dark Anchor Achievement farming?
So, I have a gaggle of characters and two accounts nowadays. Even though I don't get to play as much due to the work schedule (being medical sucks sometimes), I've done everything I can to have a character handy to play in this game regardless of what I'm in the mood for or what the group needs. I'm the guy that will readily swap characters so we can get (insert run here) done without standing around for an hour or longer. But again, depends on my mood.
So I'm looking at my stable of characters this am (day off - heck yeah). And I'm noticing that amongst the V14 I've some skills to improve. As an example, looking at my DK Pyromage - she needs to go ahead and max out evil hunter/flawless dawnbreaker. And a few other things I'm sure. Only on my first cup of joe...
Anyway, after running a couple of pledge dungeons and a couple of Cadwell's Silver quests (yeah I skipped it - get over yourself
) I've noticed little to no movement after picking up quest rewards. This perplexes me, so I'm bringing my concerns here to discuss.I'm seriously not getting what's happening here. It used to be that you could level up your skills quickly by grinding mobs. And although I'm quite used to that, I haven't been in the mood so far today. Anyway, my questions:
1. Is the concept of mob grinding for hours and hours all that's left to improve skills at a reasonable rate now?
2. Why is it that I'm getting VP rewards on my characters, but see no skill movement?
If the only way left now to improve skills past level 50 is to grind mobs, there are going to be some really pissed lowbies running around Coldharbour today. I have a no lines, no waiting attitude when gathering up regular xp to improve character skills. Oftentimes meaning I'm just clearing the field over and over again and ignoring complaints. Hate to have to do that again, but whatever...
To ZOS; when are we going to see killing mobs that give VP actually do something for skill improvement? And why do I feel forced to look for level 44 and up mobs and steal them from lowbies to improve my character? Isn't that just encouraging bad behavior, like Dark Anchor Achievement farming?
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dharbert✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Just load up your bar with 2 to 4 skills at a time that need to be leveled up, and grind overland mobs solo in Craglorn. Pull 2 or 3 groups at once, aoe nuke, rinse repeat. I used this method and had all morphs maxed out in no time. Not to mention you will get a decent amount of gold, and tons of weapon/armor/hide drops.0 -
Evandus✭✭✭✭Craglorn mobs give VP though. The conversion to skill points seems really off right now. I'm thinking so far that if I am going to go grinding for skill improvement, I'm better off sticking with the 44-49 mobs as they give xp?0
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dharbert✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Craglorn mobs give VP though. The conversion to skill points seems really off right now. I'm thinking so far that if I am going to go grinding for skill improvement, I'm better off sticking with the 44-49 mobs as they give xp?
There is no more VP. It's all XP at a reduced rate now. It's your out of date addons that are still showing it as VP. VP got removed a month or more ago. There have been a hundred threads about this since then.0 -
Evandus✭✭✭✭Craglorn mobs give VP though. The conversion to skill points seems really off right now. I'm thinking so far that if I am going to go grinding for skill improvement, I'm better off sticking with the 44-49 mobs as they give xp?
There is no more VP. It's all XP at a reduced rate now. It's your out of date addons that are still showing it as VP. VP got removed a month or more ago. There have been a hundred threads about this since then.
My addons are not out of date. And I played for a couple of hours this am, and these were my results - which I shared in the OP.
Also, if I do a forum search and do not see a topic that addressees my questions, I will start one. I'm guessing at this point you are here to troll?
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dharbert✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Craglorn mobs give VP though. The conversion to skill points seems really off right now. I'm thinking so far that if I am going to go grinding for skill improvement, I'm better off sticking with the 44-49 mobs as they give xp?
There is no more VP. It's all XP at a reduced rate now. It's your out of date addons that are still showing it as VP. VP got removed a month or more ago. There have been a hundred threads about this since then.
My addons are not out of date. And I played for a couple of hours this am, and these were my results - which I shared in the OP.
Also, if I do a forum search and do not see a topic that addressees my questions, I will start one. I'm guessing at this point you are here to troll?
Not here to troll you, just stating what works. I had some morphs that needed to be leveled up, went to Craglorn and solo'd mobs for a couple of hours, morphs got maxed out. It's that simple.0 -
Evandus✭✭✭✭Craglorn mobs give VP though. The conversion to skill points seems really off right now. I'm thinking so far that if I am going to go grinding for skill improvement, I'm better off sticking with the 44-49 mobs as they give xp?
There is no more VP. It's all XP at a reduced rate now. It's your out of date addons that are still showing it as VP. VP got removed a month or more ago. There have been a hundred threads about this since then.
My addons are not out of date. And I played for a couple of hours this am, and these were my results - which I shared in the OP.
Also, if I do a forum search and do not see a topic that addressees my questions, I will start one. I'm guessing at this point you are here to troll?
Not here to troll you, just stating what works. I had some morphs that needed to be leveled up, went to Craglorn and solo'd mobs for a couple of hours, morphs got maxed out. It's that simple.
Ok then. Thanks for your opinion on what works. Moving on...
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s7732425ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭This is how I've managed to max out every skill in the game. Each skill is morphed and at rank IV. This works as of yesterday. The exp and time that it takes to do this actually matches the pre-nerf exp.
- Go to Craglorn Spellscar area. Find somewhere where you can solo. The best place for this right now is the Fire Atronach side. If you cannot solo, try to get in a group of two people max. If there are too many people in the area, come back at another time
- Equip two skills and an ultimate that you will use to kill things with. With your other three skill slots, put in abilities that you want to level.
- Go around and kill the mobs. Do this until your gear goes to almost 0 durability (this happens within 20 minutes of grinding). Go to town, sell loot, repair, and return to killing mobs.
- Depending on how many mobs you can kill and how fast you go, you should be maxing out your skills on your bar in 1-1.5 hours. Repeat for whatever you need to level up.
This is the fastest way to level up your skills. There is no debating this.
I did this last night. I am a magicka Sorc. I managed to max out the entire Dual Wield skill tree in 2.5 hours. Have fun!
Edit: I am a VR14 that can take on 12+ mobs at once. If you are a lower level, you need to find a skill set that allows you to do this too. Destro staff AOE works for every class. DKs just drop a Standard and use Dragon Blood when needed. Templars drop a Nova and heal when needed. Sorcs keep up Crit Surge and drop Atronach ultimate when needed. Nightblades use the AOE drain ability and drop Veil of Blades as needed. You should be getting 15 ultimate per second while killing these mobs, so you can spam ultimates like crazy.Edited by s7732425ub17_ESO on December 11, 2014 4:36PM1 -
Sallington✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Just load up your bar with 2 to 4 skills at a time that need to be leveled up, and grind overland mobs solo in Craglorn. Pull 2 or 3 groups at once, aoe nuke, rinse repeat. I used this method and had all morphs maxed out in no time. Not to mention you will get a decent amount of gold, and tons of weapon/armor/hide drops.
what are "overland mobs"?Daggerfall Covenant
Sallington - Templar - Stormproof - Prefect II
Cobham - Sorcerer - Stormproof - First Sergeant II
Shallington - NightBlade - Lieutenant |
Balmorah - Templar - Sergeant ||0 -
dharbert✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Sallington wrote: »Just load up your bar with 2 to 4 skills at a time that need to be leveled up, and grind overland mobs solo in Craglorn. Pull 2 or 3 groups at once, aoe nuke, rinse repeat. I used this method and had all morphs maxed out in no time. Not to mention you will get a decent amount of gold, and tons of weapon/armor/hide drops.
what are "overland mobs"?
Welwa, scorpions, entire camps of bandits, archers, and trolls that are crawling all over the place. Those are overland mobs.
I have a path that I run and I am constantly fighting from one encounter to the next. Easy way to level up skills and morphs.0 -
Evandus✭✭✭✭The overland mobs are the ones wandering around the zone I believe.
It does seem that mob grinding is all that's left at this time regarding improving skills. Clearly, and by my observations insofar, doing pledges and questing is a waste of time for this purpose.
I'll have to compare Craglorn vs. 44-49 mobs a little later today. Going to run a few errands I've been putting off first.0 -
Sallington✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Is it easy for a VR13 Templar to grind these mobs?
I ask because a friend of mine...Daggerfall Covenant
Sallington - Templar - Stormproof - Prefect II
Cobham - Sorcerer - Stormproof - First Sergeant II
Shallington - NightBlade - Lieutenant |
Balmorah - Templar - Sergeant ||0 -
Evandus✭✭✭✭Sallington wrote: »Is it easy for a VR13 Templar to grind these mobs?
I ask because a friend of mine...
Shouldn't be problematic. You just want to set up your bar with enough oomph to kick them over while surviving their attacks. IIRC, when I was working on mine from V10-V14 I only had two slots to improve at a time. Because Templars have lower dps output mainly. Easily doable though imo.
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