ZENI STILL HAS NOT LEARNED HOW TO DO THIS SIMPLE TASK

seanvwolf

Browsing through forum posts in the section shows that they released patch notes during content updates on Wednesdays or Thursdays for big Friday patches, and Friday's for some big Monday patches. I do know that they have released patch notes on Sundays, for some Monday incremental patch implementations because I've seen them. That being said, small patches don't justify the risk of disappointment in implementation if the patch notes are incorrect or unverified.

DenverRalphy

Kraven wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Agreed. They've almost never released the patch notes before the day. You can even check through the patch notes forum and see that almost every time, they are released during the NA maintenance, about 30 minutes before the server comes back up. Not having the full patch notes in advance is fine; a brief sentence would suffice.

Kraven wrote: »

How dare they have regularly scheduled maintenance!!!!? At the same time weekly!? The audacity!

@Kraven we know regular maintenance is weekly. What we would like is a bit more information in advance regarding what is happening during that maintenance.

For example: Today we are releasing Patch 1.5.7, which mainly contains bug fixes. This should be around 500 MB, and we expect this maintenance to last approximately 3 hours. or Today's maintenance is a server reset with no patch to download. We expect this maintenance to last 1 hour.

Perhaps you missed it. 1.5.2 -1.5.3 - 1.5.4 - 1.5.5 patch notes all went out the day in advance. And that's with 30 seconds of actually looking instead of making speculations and assumptions based on fiction in order to have something to complain about.

Of course I must be mistaken, since it must be a fact that they "almost never released patch notes before the day." just because you said so.

They did not go out a day in advance. They were released after the patch was applied to the servers. I was around for all of those patches. Unless you are in a significantly different time zone on the other side of the planet than NA time zones, you're dates seem to be off.

Elsonso

@ZOS_GinaBruno‌ says:

The Elder Scrolls Online v1.5.7 is an incremental patch that addresses issues with Trials leaderboards, the Grouping Tools performance, the ability Lethal Arrow stacking with itself, and more. This patch will be approximately 90MB.

This is exactly the information that I think they should put out prior to the patch details being published. They could put this right into the "Server is offline for maintenance" note on the forums.

Ok, not exactly. It should end with "Watch for detailed patch notes (blah) (blah) (blah)"

Kraven

Or your memory is.

seanvwolf wrote: »

Browsing through forum posts in the section shows that they released patch notes during content updates on Wednesdays or Thursdays for big Friday patches, and Friday's for some big Monday patches. I do know that they have released patch notes on Sundays, for some Monday incremental patch implementations because I've seen them. That being said, small patches don't justify the risk of disappointment in implementation if the patch notes are incorrect or unverified.

Nope, nope. Forget that the patch notes are time stamped. Forget your facts! I denounce all logic and facts and replace it with my own speculation and falsity because I can! That makes my fiction undeniable truth!

Cherryblossom

Kraven wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Agreed. They've almost never released the patch notes before the day. You can even check through the patch notes forum and see that almost every time, they are released during the NA maintenance, about 30 minutes before the server comes back up. Not having the full patch notes in advance is fine; a brief sentence would suffice.

Kraven wrote: »

How dare they have regularly scheduled maintenance!!!!? At the same time weekly!? The audacity!

@Kraven we know regular maintenance is weekly. What we would like is a bit more information in advance regarding what is happening during that maintenance.

For example: Today we are releasing Patch 1.5.7, which mainly contains bug fixes. This should be around 500 MB, and we expect this maintenance to last approximately 3 hours. or Today's maintenance is a server reset with no patch to download. We expect this maintenance to last 1 hour.

Perhaps you missed it. 1.5.2 -1.5.3 - 1.5.4 - 1.5.5 patch notes all went out the day in advance. And that's with 30 seconds of actually looking instead of making speculations and assumptions based on fiction in order to have something to complain about.

Of course I must be mistaken, since it must be a fact that they "almost never released patch notes before the day." just because you said so.

It's nice to see that they are finally doing this, but @Kraven‌ , if people like @Enodoc did not highlight the fact we are missing these details, then we would not be getting them.
You cannot excuse the fact that in general, ZOS is appalling at communicating. It's only by continually informing ZOS what we would like feedback on, that we will get that feedback.

Elsonso

Kraven wrote: »

Or your memory is.

seanvwolf wrote: »

Browsing through forum posts in the section shows that they released patch notes during content updates on Wednesdays or Thursdays for big Friday patches, and Friday's for some big Monday patches. I do know that they have released patch notes on Sundays, for some Monday incremental patch implementations because I've seen them. That being said, small patches don't justify the risk of disappointment in implementation if the patch notes are incorrect or unverified.

Nope, nope. Forget that the patch notes are time stamped. Forget your facts! I denounce all logic and facts and replace it with my own speculation and falsity because I can! That makes my fiction undeniable truth!

Patch notes can be written in advance and made visible during maintenance. You cannot go by the date on the discussion.

They are usually, almost exclusively, made public during the NA maintenance.

I know this because on patch days I always closely monitor the forum so I can get the patch notes as soon as they are posted.

seanvwolf

downloading patch now

FoxyKitten

I can't believe how many people are being driven crazy by the unwanted leaderboard notifications and yet there is no way to turn them off. It may come as a surprise to Z but I and many other DO NOT care who had done what in how many minutes. Please, at the very least make this annoying, distracting waste of my time a toggle. Let me turn the stupid thing off. I DO NOT want the constant income of these notifications that are completely irrelevant to me and many others. Please, catch a clue!!!!

Cherryblossom

FoxyKitten wrote: »

I can't believe how many people are being driven crazy by the unwanted leaderboard notifications and yet there is no way to turn them off. It may come as a surprise to Z but I and many other DO NOT care who had done what in how many minutes. Please, at the very least make this annoying, distracting waste of my time a toggle. Let me turn the stupid thing off. I DO NOT want the constant income of these notifications that are completely irrelevant to me and many others. Please, catch a clue!!!!

Wrong Thread may be?

Kraven

FoxyKitten wrote: »

I can't believe how many people are being driven crazy by the unwanted leaderboard notifications and yet there is no way to turn them off. It may come as a surprise to Z but I and many other DO NOT care who had done what in how many minutes. Please, at the very least make this annoying, distracting waste of my time a toggle. Let me turn the stupid thing off. I DO NOT want the constant income of these notifications that are completely irrelevant to me and many others. Please, catch a clue!!!!

^Completely off topic, but if it bothers you that much there is an add on that removes them.

Cherryblossom wrote: »

It's nice to see that they are finally doing this, but @Kraven‌ , if people like @Enodoc did not highlight the fact we are missing these details, then we would not be getting them.
You cannot excuse the fact that in general, ZOS is appalling at communicating. It's only by continually informing ZOS what we would like feedback on, that we will get that feedback.

I never attempted to make any excuse for a lack of communication. I personally think they have a tendency to put in the patch notes things that don't need to be there while at the same time making ninja changes to certain things that should absolutely be listed in the patch notes.

lordrichter wrote: »

Patch notes can be written in advance and made visible during maintenance. You cannot go by the date on the discussion.

They are usually, almost exclusively, made public during the NA maintenance.

I know this because on patch days I always closely monitor the forum so I can get the patch notes as soon as they are posted.

It's good that you closely monitor the forums on patch days, perhaps you should try checking them ahead of time if you are looking for the information ahead of time. There have been a few exceptions but in general I know what is coming and last I checked my esp wasn't all that great.

On any decent size patch I've gone over them with people in TS the night before because let's face it a large population never even uses the forums. 1.5.7 is short and really insignificant when it comes to patch notes. Now the changes to certain aspects that come without any patch note what-so-ever are a completely different story. I think the patch notes come out just fine time wise but tend to lack significant details.

Now if 1.6 comes out without detailed patch notes a few days in advance then complain. Or really complain about anything any time you want to just don't expect everyone to agree with you.