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Dwemer Drop rate

Ommamar
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I have been using the technique of farming the Dwemer ruin in the fighter guild quest line. Since the patch things have changed dramatically as far as the drop rate. Before I was able to get 4 or 5 motifs and 16 Dwemer scraps playing through it a couple times on different characters who happened to be on that step. Now I have only gotten the standard alliance motifs and one scrap out of 3 or 4 runs. How is everyone else doing? Is this just RNG bad luck or did ZOS decided that made things to easy so changed the loot table?
  • DeLindsay
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    I haven't done the FG trick but run Avanzchel in The Rift and find the drop rate of Scrap to be beyond terrible, no matter where I run it. I've ran every single Dwemer Ruin except in Craglorn and The Rift has the most containers and a fast respawn time of constructs. But even killing constructs for more than an hour often times I'll have 3 scrap but 2-5 pages, that's horribly unbalanced. The pages have a decent drop rate IMO.
  • helediron
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    Avanzchel is best place to collect motifs, but for scraps go to Razak's Wheel in Bankorai. I usually walk out from Razak's with ten scraps, full inventory and hefty repair bill.
    Edit: bloody dwemer namez...
    Edited by helediron on November 27, 2014 7:28PM
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  • OrangeTheCat
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    I tend not to follow the herd mentality just for this reason. I farmed an otherwise obscure ruin for a week, about 1.5 hours each session and found 2/3 of the motifs the rest being duplicates. I traded the duplicates for what I was missing and sold the remainder. Don't be one with the herd.
  • Demira
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    I have been, having a horrible time in finding the scraps and motif's from this current patch. I was trying to help my guild mates get the motif's. Alot of guild mates don't have the time to hunt for them.
  • Magdalina
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    I tend not to follow the herd mentality just for this reason. I farmed an otherwise obscure ruin for a week, about 1.5 hours each session and found 2/3 of the motifs the rest being duplicates. I traded the duplicates for what I was missing and sold the remainder. Don't be one with the herd.
    Other players can't mess up your motif drop though as containers are instanced per player.

    On topic, I think scraps droprate is ridiculous. I can take 15 mins to run Avanchnzel on 2-3 chars and get an almost guaranteed dwemer page, which I only need to use once to learn it forever, but scraps, which I need EVERY time I wanna craft smth dwemer? Gonna have to farm Razak's wheel for like an hour if I'm unlucky to get enough for ONE frame.

    I'm fine with rare stuff, but it doesn't make sense that MOTIFS drop more often than RACIAL STONES.
    Edited by Magdalina on November 28, 2014 12:32AM
  • like1tiger
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    It sure is strange. I run the onein Rift and have gotten about 20 motifs in a week and my friend does the same thing and he has only got 4 haha go RNG. it drives him insane.
    The scrap rate is defiantly low though. I have made 4 frames so far
  • Epona222
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    I think I must have angered the RNG gods, because despite going around several dwemer ruins daily since the last update, I haven't found a single motif.
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  • zaria
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    Epona222 wrote: »
    I think I must have angered the RNG gods, because despite going around several dwemer ruins daily since the last update, I haven't found a single motif.
    Doing Mzeneldt I tend to get an motif more than every second run, however rarely more than 5 scraps, making the style material rarer than the motif pages, had 10 scrap become 10 style stones the drop rate would be around right.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Epona222
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    zaria wrote: »
    Epona222 wrote: »
    I think I must have angered the RNG gods, because despite going around several dwemer ruins daily since the last update, I haven't found a single motif.
    Doing Mzeneldt I tend to get an motif more than every second run, however rarely more than 5 scraps, making the style material rarer than the motif pages, had 10 scrap become 10 style stones the drop rate would be around right.

    I don't even know what a dwemer motif looks like, and I have been going into dwemer ruins for a couple of hours a day since update 5.

    I do now have plenty of pepper though, so it's not all bad (statement subject to re-evaluation once provisioning changes are implemented).
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  • Leeric
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    Epona222 wrote: »
    I think I must have angered the RNG gods, because despite going around several dwemer ruins daily since the last update, I haven't found a single motif.

    I am with you on that one. No dwemer motifs....
  • zaria
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    Epona222 wrote: »
    zaria wrote: »
    Epona222 wrote: »
    I think I must have angered the RNG gods, because despite going around several dwemer ruins daily since the last update, I haven't found a single motif.
    Doing Mzeneldt I tend to get an motif more than every second run, however rarely more than 5 scraps, making the style material rarer than the motif pages, had 10 scrap become 10 style stones the drop rate would be around right.

    I don't even know what a dwemer motif looks like, and I have been going into dwemer ruins for a couple of hours a day since update 5.

    I do now have plenty of pepper though, so it's not all bad (statement subject to re-evaluation once provisioning changes are implemented).

    My favorite drop is the 0 gold diamond necklaces and rings.

    How can an diamond ring be worth 0 gold, it make sense for the 0 value crap armor and weapon, being so rusty you can only melt it down.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Esha76
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    Having the luxury of lots of free time atm, I ran into the Rift one VR10 several times a a day. I have the full motif set, and I'd say I average about one motif a day. I also bought and sold a couple to. The trading guilds I'm in, I have noticed they are starting to drop under 10k now.

    The scrap drop rate is rather disappointing though. My tanklar is in full Dwemer style gear, which is nice, but I know it's going to be hours of grinding/farming (I am not looking forward to - again) to replace those scrap/frames. The vast majority of those i accumulated while farming for motifs. I don't mind putting some work into it, but just don't wish to give up an entire night of playing to kill 100's of machines over and over again.

    And if you'd like to look at is as a realistic thing.... There's enough people busting these things up each hour there should be so much scrap laying around that it's worth less than the 0 gold diamond jewelry we all have an abundance of.
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  • Rydik
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    Frame parts stop dropping if you overlevel dunge?
  • AlnilamE
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    I believe so. If you are not getting any other drops, you would not get frames. But if you are still getting gears, I think the chance of frame drops is still there.
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