Wall pulling exploit Thornbale NA

Scamandros

It was not No mercy, they are respectable enemies

Edit: going off the people i recognize as running with No Mercy alot

Columba

Awetopsy1703 wrote: »

That was whole meaning wrong is wrong your point is the same as mine why point the finger when your hand is still in the jar , and i guess your "grow up" comment makes you the adult here hmmm . funny

Whoosh. Ok you don't get it. Two wrongs dont make a right. Is that easier, son?

Awetopsy1703

Exactly !! daughter ? you're arguing with yourself , i dont like cheating either or pointing the finger when all sides are guilty .

Columba

yet you excuse it because "others do it too!"

Awetopsy1703

Cant argue with a drunk or a troll gets nowhere troll on

Subtomik

Scamandros wrote: »

It was not No mercy, they are respectable enemies

Edit: going off the people i recognize as running with No Mercy alot

you cant miss us, white blue/white and blue tabards

Rylana

Subtomik wrote: »

Scamandros wrote: »

It was not No mercy, they are respectable enemies

Edit: going off the people i recognize as running with No Mercy alot

you cant miss us, white blue/white and blue tabards

And a large amount of white lizards as well. >_>

Seriously, how many vamp argonians do you guys even have?

serenenightmare

Rylana wrote: »

Subtomik wrote: »

Scamandros wrote: »

It was not No mercy, they are respectable enemies

Edit: going off the people i recognize as running with No Mercy alot

you cant miss us, white blue/white and blue tabards

And a large amount of white lizards as well. >_>

Seriously, how many vamp argonians do you guys even have?

We only have one argonian and he is werewolf xD

Vilestride

Sub, your gonna have to change your forum sig from "first and currently only" to just "first" I'm afraid. :P

OT, also if they are going to look into fixing these kind of broken skill I know the silver leash morph of Silver bolts can be used in the same fashion and at much further range.

Its been said many times before but the best way to prevent anything of this nature would be to remove the ability to travel to player to gain access into a campaign. I do not see one reason this feature is needed, and would 100% prevent people from getting their 'alts' into campaigns. You might still have spies, but I doubt there would be nearly as many people willing to commit to play for one faction in their home campaign while working for another. would bring down the amount of spies by at LEAST 80% IMO

If someone can justify why we need travel to player (obviously for cyrodil only), or how it is healthy for PvP please enlighten me, maybe I have missed something obvious.

Cody

Talcyndl wrote: »

Huntler wrote: »

Its not useless for PvE

What's PvE?

A wonderful magical land where there are no lagblobs...... no constant crashing in the one populated campaign..... it'swhere every build actually works, and not just the typical FOTM adamantium dress build.... lets see... how else could i describe it to you....

hmm.....

Cody

Subtomik wrote: »

Stop trying to accuse us of nonsense. OP confirm it was not a single member of NM lol.

I know you guys need excuses to try and lube up to "what goes wrong" when you fight us but this just sounds desperate.

Not to the OP, to the people hoping it was NM so they can be like "see we only lose because they cheat!!"

silencio, por favor.

muchos gracias:)

MrGhosty

Giahh wrote: »

If someone can justify why we need travel to player (obviously for cyrodil only), or how it is healthy for PvP please enlighten me, maybe I have missed something obvious.

I will say that Travel to player is used often on our Guild event evenings, we often run events for all three factions. When we do PvP nights there is really only one place to PvP with any consistency so we do make use of that function.

The cheating is a joke, and let's just be sensible here and we can all agree cheaters suck and it doesn't matter which flavor you currently belong to. I've seen people from all factions pulling some pretty questionable tactics, it's not a DC vs AD vs EP thing, it's a good sports vs cheaters thing.

tl;dr

Cheaters are terrible people and deserve to be perma banned, any person that knowingly benefits from a cheater (the people being yanked in this case) deserve the same fate as their cheating friend.

rtc07

I don't know how they do it but people are still using chains - I've been pulled down from a wall as recently as a week ago. Most recently ,when EP had DC pushed back against our home gates 6-7 days ago I got chained down from the gate by a member of a guild - don't know the guild name but it has members who's name pay homage to the ruler who conquered 6 of the 7 kingdoms of Westeros, or describe what happen when something turns into a crystal.... is that naming and shaming haha?

Gooey

How does DC even manage to get that far into AD territory when we're getting double teamed for 12 hours?

Nala_

Gooey wrote: »

How does DC even manage to get that far into AD territory when we're getting double teamed for 12 hours?

yeah the day before it was AD being double teamed for 12 hours, so why is it no one does this to EP?

Gooey

Nala_ wrote: »

Gooey wrote: »

How does DC even manage to get that far into AD territory when we're getting double teamed for 12 hours?

yeah the day before it was AD being double teamed for 12 hours, so why is it no one does this to EP?

Heh heh heh, opportunities are presenting themselves.

Durham

Laggus wrote: »

Today I witnessed an AD player pull a 9-10 DC players onto the wall at Fare. Clearly exploiting by using a skill on whats obviously an alt toon to get his DC buddies into the Keep without sieging the walls.

That skill needs to be either fixed so the angles cannot be exploited in this way or raise the height of the Keep walls. The player(s) using this exploit should also be banned. He/she was reported by many of us at the time. DC players allowing themselves to be pulled up onto the walls..well..your destroying the reputation of the majority of DC players and shame on you. I would hope the other DC players treat you with the respect you deserve, which is none at all.

Please ZoS do something with this exploit as it will ruin PvP. It should be a high priority in my opinion and from the rage in zone chat from AD when they heard

Draxys wrote: »

They've already fudged that skill enough, I couldn't chain a mob that was on a super small mound of dirt during an undaunted pledge yesterday.

agreed I do not even have a point in this ability its so nerfed... 7/10 times it seems not to work...

MiyaTheUnbroken

This is just an idea I came up while stoned, but what if they got rid of chains completely, and gave DK's a new, better skill with a similar effect. I honestly never thought the chains fit well with their earth and fire theme anyway.

What if they got a fear-like spell, but instead of the opponent running away, the opponent charges the caster. This will put the DK's opponent inside their fiery ring of death without creating a way into keeps.

Cody

MiyaTheUnbroken wrote: »

This is just an idea I came up while stoned, but what if they got rid of chains completely, and gave DK's a new, better skill with a similar effect. I honestly never thought the chains fit well with their earth and fire theme anyway.

What if they got a fear-like spell, but instead of the opponent running away, the opponent charges the caster. This will put the DK's opponent inside their fiery ring of death without creating a way into keeps.

interesting. maybe a mind control ability or something; that makes enemies run TOWARD you? that would be worth giving a try.

D Fresh

Not to worry though. We abruptly went over to Fare and stomped the *** out of all 20 of them with about 7 of us. Thanks for the AP gaiiiiisss.

Armitas

I reported to ZOS that chains can still be used to pull people into keeps about 2-3 months ago. I told them exactly how to do it too.

Question. Walls are not made to keep all players out; as evidenced by ZOS's acceptance of Dragon Leaping over walls. So why is it an exploit to go over a wall using a skill that is not dragon leap?

Not saying this should be allowed, I would just like to hear it explained by ZOS or anyone else in a way that makes sense. If by ZOS how do you expect the average player to perceive the difference and predict what will and will not be considered exploiting?

jkirchner71ub17_ESO2

Rylana wrote: »

And a large amount of white lizards as well. >_>

Seriously, how many vamp argonians do you guys even have?

I run into No Mercy quite a bit and have yet to see this large amount of "white lizards". I normally run into them in EP .

LonePirate

MiyaTheUnbroken wrote: »

This is just an idea I came up while stoned, but what if they got rid of chains completely, and gave DK's a new, better skill with a similar effect. I honestly never thought the chains fit well with their earth and fire theme anyway.

I actually like the idea of replacing this skill. Given that its purpose is to deal damage to a ranged target, why not replace it with a ranged damage spell like a fireball or flaming spear that inflicts comparable damage? DKs need a ranged damage dealer so replacing Chains with a ranged damage spell would be a wonderful change that would fix this problem/exploit.

Laggus

Needs to be a gap closer with aggro element if its to be replaced. Theres PvE to be considered with the skill (for those that PvE).

Ysne58

Is there any reason why skills can't work differently in pve than in pvp?

kijima

D Fresh wrote: »

I was there, I know exactly who did it. It was an individual that has an affinity for STONES and birds farmers put a scareCROW up to chase off. His AD character is only HALF the CROW of his main though.

I love you D

Laggus

Ysne58 wrote: »

Is there any reason why skills can't work differently in pve than in pvp?

ZoS have already tinkered with Fiery Grip more than once I recall to address the wall pulling and its proven difficult to pull anything in certain instances in PvE that it shouldn't have effected. Changing the mechanics of it when you AvA I imagine will introduce even more problems than it fixes. They just need to get it right.