Post 1.5.4 Survey Report Nirncrux Drop Rates

Rodario

I did one blacksmithing-, one woodworking- and three tailoring surveys today.

Before 1.5.4. I would get nothing from WW or tailoring, but five nirncrux from BS surveys. They addressed this imbalance in the patch (Didn't mention WW though).

Today I got 1 Nirncrux total. Nothing from BS, nothing from the three tailoring surveys and one from the WW survey, which may very well have been a "normal/non-survey" upper crag drop.

So, it appears they equalized Nirncrux drop rates across the different survey types by removing them altogether. Cool.

I've always gotten exactly 5 Nirncrux of either type from BS surveys before, so if this is RNG related, that's also new.

niocwy

I think they just made the drop rate the same (or maybe slightly better) than it is when not doing a survey.

Also, did you loot your Nirncrux in upper or lower Craglorn ?

abigfishy

Since the patch I have done 5 WW surveys and 3 clothing (been hoarding them until they were working properly) for a total of 0 Nirn.

Rodario

niocwy wrote: »

I think they just made the drop rate the same (or maybe slightly better) than it is when not doing a survey.

Also, did you loot your Nirncrux in upper or lower Craglorn ?

Rodario wrote: »

... and one from the WW survey, which may very well have been a "normal/non-survey" upper crag drop.

Frenkthevile

i did all 4 maps i have kept with me.
i got NONE.
Gj Zenimax!!!

AlnilamE

Yesterday I got a clothier map and a woodoworking map and got a Nirncrux stone out of each.

My friend who had the same woodworking map I did didn't get anything.

I had never gotten one of the blacksmithing surveys, so didn't get to experience the Nirncrux bonanza, but I think they have changed it so that you are more likely to get nirncrux out of the surveys (but only out of the proper level nodes), but it's now possible to get them from all three.

leandro.800ub17_ESO

I also got none from BS survey.
I guess price will go from 6k to 12k again

reften

can I ask, what are these surveys?

Rodario

oren74 wrote: »

can I ask, what are these surveys?

@oren74‌ Survey reports may be included in the containers you receive for completing writs. They are kinda like treasure maps, exept they are easier to read and lead to instanced, resource (node) rich areas.

Gyudan

leandro.800ub17_ESO wrote: »

I also got none from BS survey.
I guess price will go from 6k to 12k again

They were dropping too much with the previous rates. Sooner or later they would have been as valuable as daedra hearts.

reften

Rodario wrote: »

oren74 wrote: »

can I ask, what are these surveys?

@oren74‌ Survey reports may be included in the containers you receive for completing writs. They are kinda like treasure maps, exept they are easier to read and lead to instanced, resource (node) rich areas.

ahh, very cool thanks!

Rodario

Gyudan wrote: »

leandro.800ub17_ESO wrote: »

I also got none from BS survey.
I guess price will go from 6k to 12k again

They were dropping too much with the previous rates. Sooner or later they would have been as valuable as daedra hearts.

Well, they are just trait stones. Plus, the trait they're needed for is only popular for research right now. I think prices will drastically drop anyway, as soon as most players have researched nirnhoned on everything.

poodlemasterb16_ESO

No survey reports in the last 7 writs I have handed in. WTF. I have turned in 2 Clothing, 3 Woodworking and 2 Enchanting jobs for not much and no maps in the last day or so. I have had 3 maps since this started and at this point I'm not doing crafting writs anymore. I have all the crafts but it's a waste of time and effort, to say nothing about materials.

Rexlupis

poodlemasterb16_ESO wrote: »

No survey reports in the last 7 writs I have handed in. WTF. I have turned in 2 Clothing, 3 Woodworking and 2 Enchanting jobs for not much and no maps in the last day or so. I have had 3 maps since this started and at this point I'm not doing crafting writs anymore. I have all the crafts but it's a waste of time and effort, to say nothing about materials.

I can't agree enough. The writs now cost more in mats than the return, even with the increased gold bonus and now that nirncrux is a rare drop from a rare chance to actually get a survey, there is literally no incentive to do them if your crafting skills are already at max level. In fact, I would say it is more akin to a deterrent, since you could just sell the materials required to do the writs and make much more money.

I've done three equipment surveys since the 1.5.4 patch and I haven't received a single nirncrux... Even more infuriating, I also had an alchemy survey that contained no bugloss... it was all corn flower and lady's smock. If this is "working as intended" then I certainly will not waste time and money on them anymore.

kelly.medleyb14_ESO

Rodario wrote: »

I did one blacksmithing-, one woodworking- and three tailoring surveys today.

Before 1.5.4. I would get nothing from WW or tailoring, but five nirncrux from BS surveys. They addressed this imbalance in the patch (Didn't mention WW though).

Today I got 1 Nirncrux total. Nothing from BS, nothing from the three tailoring surveys and one from the WW survey, which may very well have been a "normal/non-survey" upper crag drop.

So, it appears they equalized Nirncrux drop rates across the different survey types by removing them altogether. Cool.

I've always gotten exactly 5 Nirncrux of either type from BS surveys before, so if this is RNG related, that's also new.

^ this, I've done 8 surveys of BS and Clothier and gotten nothing but worms.

Also could you add a "time" component to things like nodes and chests that determines how long its been since it has been accessed and give higher chances of greater rewards for those that have not been accessed for a long time? This would allow out of the way nodes and chests to be more desirable and promote exploration. Thanks.

Slurg

I got 1 nirncrux from the BS survey yesterday before the wasp swarm detected and killed me and the nodes all disappeared.

But then I got a nirncrux off a nearby void bloom.

Don't even get me started on how ridiculous it is to expect a crafter to fight off half a dozen wasps. I guess we're expected to group to farm now.

Rodario

Slurg wrote: »

I got 1 nirncrux from the BS survey yesterday before the wasp swarm detected and killed me and the nodes all disappeared.

But then I got a nirncrux off a nearby void bloom.

Don't even get me started on how ridiculous it is to expect a crafter to fight off half a dozen wasps. I guess we're expected to group to farm now.

I usually have no problems with the vasps at VR6, but the one time I was careless and died, the nodes didn't despawn.

ThisOnePosts

To top it off, writs don't advance your quest progress towards that 1,500 quests achievement (Indomitable Adventurer) other than your initial quest-turn in, but not repeats.

For a master crafter, there is no point in doing them at the moment. What could have been additional end-game content that livens things up, turned out to be a fast track for new characters to level their crafting.

Don't new characters have plenty to do already? The game also shouldn't be geared for alts w/ hirelings (this is coming from someone with alts who have hirelings). So what is with this? Quests should advance and there should be some nice jackpot surveys, since no one will be crafting many Nirn items any time soon due to the drop rates. Sure the prices are low, but my stockpile will be kept on hand for myself and no one else unless they are paying well enough for me to warrant possibly having to go replace that one (or few) I am using while crafting for others.

Slurg

Rodario wrote: »

Slurg wrote: »

I got 1 nirncrux from the BS survey yesterday before the wasp swarm detected and killed me and the nodes all disappeared.

But then I got a nirncrux off a nearby void bloom.

Don't even get me started on how ridiculous it is to expect a crafter to fight off half a dozen wasps. I guess we're expected to group to farm now.

I usually have no problems with the vasps at VR6, but the one time I was careless and died, the nodes didn't despawn.

So happy everyone else is so much more awesome and higher level than me. But I'm the one geting nirncrux nodes even if I can't use them.

Since high level crafters of all character levels must go to upper Craglorn to receive their reward it's a kick in the teeth to put so many mobs literally on top of the rewards.

If the nodes were not supposed to despawn I guess I'd better put in a bug report.

Rodario

Slurg wrote: »

Rodario wrote: »

Slurg wrote: »

I got 1 nirncrux from the BS survey yesterday before the wasp swarm detected and killed me and the nodes all disappeared.

But then I got a nirncrux off a nearby void bloom.

Don't even get me started on how ridiculous it is to expect a crafter to fight off half a dozen wasps. I guess we're expected to group to farm now.

I usually have no problems with the vasps at VR6, but the one time I was careless and died, the nodes didn't despawn.

So happy everyone else is so much more awesome and higher level than me. But I'm the one geting nirncrux nodes even if I can't use them.

Since high level crafters of all character levels must go to upper Craglorn to receive their reward it's a kick in the teeth to put so many mobs literally on top of the rewards.

If the nodes were not supposed to despawn I guess I'd better put in a bug report.

Sorry, That wasn't supposed to sound demeaning. I originally just wanted to say the nodes didn't despawn when I died once.

Large mob groups are easy as a templar. The more of them there are, the more puncturing sweep will heal you.

Beesting

I had such a good laugh today as i went to the nirncrux mine in upper nirncrux to collect my 5 nirncrux from the blacksmith survey.
You known the one with the troll right next to the ores. Too close to sneak collect them.
As a v14 dk i thought no problem will just drop my standard and lava whip it, but then the mine doors swung open and a team of 6 npc's including OP archers came running out to get me.
3 soulgems later and with tears from laughing i finally got some help from 2 others and none of us harvested any nirncrux.
Good job on that one zenimax! Never say this game is boring, haha.

kelly.medleyb14_ESO

Beesting wrote: »

I had such a good laugh today as i went to the nirncrux mine in upper nirncrux to collect my 5 nirncrux from the blacksmith survey.
You known the one with the troll right next to the ores. Too close to sneak collect them.
As a v14 dk i thought no problem will just drop my standard and lava whip it, but then the mine doors swung open and a team of 6 npc's including OP archers came running out to get me.
3 soulgems later and with tears from laughing i finally got some help from 2 others and none of us harvested any nirncrux.
Good job on that one zenimax! Never say this game is boring, haha.

This is a funny story but you can easily sneak up behind the troll and get all the nodes I've done it several times now on my full plate paladins during the brightest part of the day, doesn't make much sense but there you have it.

leandro.800ub17_ESO

2 days trait with survey on cloth and blacksmith and no nirn on any of them.
They really go extreme on changes. Cant u just lower a bit the rate and not 100%

reften

ViciousWayz wrote: »

For a master crafter, there is no point in doing them at the moment. What could have been additional end-game content that livens things up, turned out to be a fast track for new characters to level their crafting.

I disagree. I like the 600 gold, plus the mats cycle with the surveys....and I'm levelling some skills / resto staff. Alchemy, Enchanting, and Provisioning ones are ultra easy to do.

neueregel

I have had about 8 reports, got one nirncrux from a woodworking, and one from cloth. None from BS.

ramasurinenpreub18_ESO

I've completed about 35 bs/ww/cloth crafting writs since 1.5.4. (have several VR characters with maxed crafting). Received 9 survey maps, pretty well evenly split between BS and cloth. Got ZERO nirncrux, out of any of them. Epic battle just to get to the Craglorn cloth solo, only to find mostly useless silverweed. Oh, but I got an emerald, yay. I'll add that to the 3 stacks I already have.

For leveling crafts this stuff might help a bit, but it's pointless now for max crafters until they re-adjust the drop rates or add some other incentive. You can make gold much faster in other ways as well, so not much consolation there either.