Patch 1.5.3 Vet xp, quest xp question

unlord116

Hi guys,

I'm a bit confused what the state of the game will be after this patch. Its been a confusing week in patchland and xp land.

So besides the 1.5.3 patch notes, am i correct to assume that:

Vet lvl req will be 1,000,000 xp per rank?

and

Quest xp lvl cap will be removed?

I recall them saying they will fix the quest lvl cap next patch (they said this last week, so they were refering to this week's patch). However I have not seen any info on this in the patch notes. What we were given instead tho is a lowered rank up requirement. Is this given in exchange for quest lvl cap, or will they be lowering the rank up req IN ADDITION to fixing quest lvl cap.

I rather they just fix the quest lvl cap so I can do my quests. If they lower the rank up req but quest lvl cap is still bugged, it just makes it silly to do the quests. I have saved my entire 3rd alliance campaign to do when i get a new computer, which i hooked up few days ago. So i can play the story in Ultra high quality mode... but now it feels kinda stupid because I get 5k xp for a quest, i could clear a group in craglorn for 4k xp in 30seconds -___-

Jagath

My understanding from reading the various posts from Gina and other zeni mods is that this patch will only fix the ability to level bug. The changes to the quest xp cap and the amount required to level i.e 1mill will be in a future patch. They have given no time frame that I am aware of.

Cuyler

From what I understand as well this patch is literally just patching what didn't actually patch last time (last mon./tues?), fixing the can't lvl up bug, and changing a vet lvl to 1,000,000 xp.

Still doesn't fix the VR quest xp being capped at lvl50 and we haven't heard an ETA for that yet.

unlord116

Would be great if they can be more clear when these 2 fixes are coming. My graphics are so fancy now but i cant quest lol


how do you tag a mod so they can come answer the question? I know a few ppl are wondering the same thing, seems to be a bit of confusion over what is fixed and when over at reddit

Cuyler

unlord116 wrote: »

how do you tag a mod so they can come answer the question?

You need to type in their UserID name, for example:

@ZOS_GinaBruno, @ZOS_JessicaFolsom, @ZOS_GaryA, @ZOS_KaiSchober,
@ZOS_JasonLeavey

EDIT: syntax
I wouldn't expect a reply at least until the maintenance is done today.

ZOS_GaryA

Hark, a summons!

We have answered many of the questions related to experience and leveling in this thread. The experience reduction to 1 million experience will be included in today's patch after the maintenance is completed.

EDIT: Jessica also posted a thread about how quest leveling works, which can be found here. Hopefully that helps with the questions about quest XP caps!

Cuyler

Thanks for the quick reply @ZOS_GaryA!

ZOS_GaryA

Of course! If those threads don't have all of the answers you're seeking, let us know. We'll be happy to chase down answers for any additional questions you may have.

Robocles

So the quest xp bug will remain in place? Meaning, even at 1,000,000 there is only enough XP in the entirety of the Cadwell series to get to a bit over VR6?

(And... to be clear... that's every quest, every dolmen, every world boss, every location, every delve.)

pppontus

@ZOS_GaryA‌

Me and many others have a rather simple question in regards to all this:

Are you trying remove grinding as a possible way of leveling, or is it just trying to get grinding to take just as long as questing? Have you considered people wanting to have alts at all in this system? I understand that may be better in the Champion System but since that seem to be way off this is a very serious issue for me personally as I cannot level my alts (don't have the option to play 5 hours a day).

GreyRanger

ZOS_GaryA wrote: »

Of course! If those threads don't have all of the answers you're seeking, let us know. We'll be happy to chase down answers for any additional questions you may have.

Simple question:
Will there be enough XP by doing the normal exploring and quests in a VR zone to gain a VR a level or will we have to do other things to stay on level with content for Caldwell's silver and gold?

PS I hope to be able to play through without forced grinding.

ZOS_GinaBruno

Jagath wrote: »

My understanding from reading the various posts from Gina and other zeni mods is that this patch will only fix the ability to level bug. The changes to the quest xp cap and the amount required to level i.e 1mill will be in a future patch. They have given no time frame that I am aware of.

You're half correct. Today's patch will fix the ability to level in Veteran Ranks, and the reduction of XP needed to 1 million. The fix for quest XP caps will be in our next patch.

Robocles

So at least another 4 days of not enough xp in a zone to level.

DenverRalphy

Robocles wrote: »

So at least another 4 days of not enough xp in a zone to level.

They're reducing the XP needed to level by a 1/3rd. I'd bet dollars to donuts that the XP lost from the capped quest xp rewards is less than what they reduced the requirements by. Not really seeing a problem here.

Ohioastro

Are the people reporting a small fraction of a VR rank per zone accounting for the UI error, where it tells you that you need 4 million / level instead of 1 million (now) and 1.5 million (before)? E.g. was this an actual issue or a UI display problem?

Robocles

Ohioastro wrote: »

Are the people reporting a small fraction of a VR rank per zone accounting for the UI error, where it tells you that you need 4 million / level instead of 1 million (now) and 1.5 million (before)? E.g. was this an actual issue or a UI display problem?

If you read the thread, you'd know that's not the case.

Robocles

DenverRalphy wrote: »

Robocles wrote: »

So at least another 4 days of not enough xp in a zone to level.

They're reducing the XP needed to level by a 1/3rd. I'd bet dollars to donuts that the XP lost from the capped quest xp rewards is less than what they reduced the requirements by. Not really seeing a problem here.

I'd bet a lot more than that that you are wrong. You'll still get roughly 70% (rounding up a bit) of a level from the content in a VR zone. Before, you were getting less than 50%.

Tankqull

DenverRalphy wrote: »

Robocles wrote: »

So at least another 4 days of not enough xp in a zone to level.

They're reducing the XP needed to level by a 1/3rd. I'd bet dollars to donuts that the XP lost from the capped quest xp rewards is less than what they reduced the requirements by. Not really seeing a problem here.

they´ve changed the former ~300k VP needed for for a vet up from V1 to v2 to 1mio XP while reducing the xp gained from main events (boss mobs, dungeon achieves, dolmens etc) from ~8kVP at VR1 to 552 XP. that is a great change for a lvl time reduction :P

zaria

ZOS_GaryA wrote: »

Hark, a summons!

We have answered many of the questions related to experience and leveling in this thread. The experience reduction to 1 million experience will be included in today's patch after the maintenance is completed.

EDIT: Jessica also posted a thread about how quest leveling works, which can be found here. Hopefully that helps with the questions about quest XP caps!

Thanks, reducing xp cap to 1000000 will make me VR14
This will solve most of my leveling problems

That is unless you also remove 1/1.44 of my xp? Better save up quests.

zaria

Robocles wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

Robocles wrote: »

So at least another 4 days of not enough xp in a zone to level.

They're reducing the XP needed to level by a 1/3rd. I'd bet dollars to donuts that the XP lost from the capped quest xp rewards is less than what they reduced the requirements by. Not really seeing a problem here.

I'd bet a lot more than that that you are wrong. You'll still get roughly 70% (rounding up a bit) of a level from the content in a VR zone. Before, you were getting less than 50%.

Doing the faction main quest is a significant faction of the xp needed for advancing an veteran level, guess it also hit Craglorn quests hard.

sparafucilsarwb17_ESO

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Jagath wrote: »

My understanding from reading the various posts from Gina and other zeni mods is that this patch will only fix the ability to level bug. The changes to the quest xp cap and the amount required to level i.e 1mill will be in a future patch. They have given no time frame that I am aware of.

You're half correct. Today's patch will fix the ability to level in Veteran Ranks, and the reduction of XP needed to 1 million. The fix for quest XP caps will be in our next patch.

Why is it not in this patch? I think we all need to get a week or 2 extra for free on our subs. This issue is a major one for a lot of players and it seems ZOS does not care at all.

Erock25

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Jagath wrote: »

My understanding from reading the various posts from Gina and other zeni mods is that this patch will only fix the ability to level bug. The changes to the quest xp cap and the amount required to level i.e 1mill will be in a future patch. They have given no time frame that I am aware of.

You're half correct. Today's patch will fix the ability to level in Veteran Ranks, and the reduction of XP needed to 1 million. The fix for quest XP caps will be in our next patch.

So basically what you are saying is no reason to play this game for over a week? When is the next patch?

Robocles

sparafucilsarwb17_ESO wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Jagath wrote: »

My understanding from reading the various posts from Gina and other zeni mods is that this patch will only fix the ability to level bug. The changes to the quest xp cap and the amount required to level i.e 1mill will be in a future patch. They have given no time frame that I am aware of.

You're half correct. Today's patch will fix the ability to level in Veteran Ranks, and the reduction of XP needed to 1 million. The fix for quest XP caps will be in our next patch.

Why is it not in this patch? I think we all need to get a week or 2 extra for free on our subs. This issue is a major one for a lot of players and it seems ZOS does not care at all.

Good luck on that one.

And, I am fairly sure they don't.

DenverRalphy

So I just spent a casual 20 minutes on a V2 character. Turned in 3 minor quests (weren't main story quests, just very easy side quests), killed anything that got in my way (but didn't go hunting), and netted just over 45k xp. That averages out to 7 hours of very casual game time to level, and I didn't even bother to apply any effort.

Not really seeing a problem.

Maverick827

DenverRalphy wrote: »

So I just spent a casual 20 minutes on a V2 character. Turned in 3 minor quests (weren't main story quests, just very easy side quests), killed anything that got in my way (but didn't go hunting), and netted just over 45k xp. That averages out to 7 hours of very casual game time to level, and I didn't even bother to apply any effort.

Not really seeing a problem.

The issue isn't with time, but with content.

Imagine that it took 10 minutes to do a quest, and that it took 6 quests to get an entire veteran level. One hour for one level is certainly fast, who could be upset with that?

Now imagine that there were only 40 quests in the game. Sure, you'd be doing six quests an hour and still gaining one level per hour, but that doesn't matter because eventually you'd run out and you would only be VR6.

Cuyler

Ohioastro wrote: »

Are the people reporting a small fraction of a VR rank per zone accounting for the UI error, where it tells you that you need 4 million / level instead of 1 million (now) and 1.5 million (before)? E.g. was this an actual issue or a UI display problem?

There is two issues going on here -
1. The lvl50 xp cap bug
2. The UI bug

The lvl50 xp cap bug is certainly still an issue and we don't know when this will be fixed yet. Maybe @ZOS_GinaBruno or @ZOS_GaryA have some new info regarding ETA?

Yes, a few players don't realize how their level/xp appears in the UI currently (basically a non-issue) but it doesn't discount that VR quest xp is still capped at lvl50/still an issue.

Ohioastro

I'm asking about post-patch in game, as there is so much confusion around this that I honestly don't know what's going on. I'll be doing some tests with a VR2 and a VR8 and will hopefully have some useful data by tomorrow PM.

Cuyler

Ohioastro wrote: »

I'm asking about post-patch in game, as there is so much confusion around this that I honestly don't know what's going on. I'll be doing some tests with a VR2 and a VR8 and will hopefully have some useful data by tomorrow PM.

I'm not understanding what your asking then...my response was referring to post patch. Maybe this will help...copied directly from todays patch notes:

General
•Fixed an issue where weapon swapping was removing stealth.
•Reduced the amount of XP required to earn a Veteran Rank to 1,000,000XP from 1,432,550XP.
•Fixed an issue where you would not gain a Veteran Rank even though you earned enough XP.
•In patch 1.5.3, the XP needed to gain a Veteran Rank (1,432,550XP) was erroneously changed to 4,000,000XP.
•Known Issue: Your progress bar will still show that 4,000,000XP is needed to gain a Veteran Rank. This is strictly a UI issue, and will be addressed in our next patch.
•If you have more than 1,000,000XP, you will automatically rank up to the correct Veteran Rank, and any leftover XP will carry over to your next rank.

If you take a look at Gina's and Gary's previous comments you'll see that the lvl50 xp cap bug also will not be fixed until next patch.

Maotti

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Jagath wrote: »

My understanding from reading the various posts from Gina and other zeni mods is that this patch will only fix the ability to level bug. The changes to the quest xp cap and the amount required to level i.e 1mill will be in a future patch. They have given no time frame that I am aware of.

You're half correct. Today's patch will fix the ability to level in Veteran Ranks, and the reduction of XP needed to 1 million. The fix for quest XP caps will be in our next patch.

So it's safe and useful to level up VR alts under VR14 again?

Robocles

DenverRalphy wrote: »

So I just spent a casual 20 minutes on a V2 character. Turned in 3 minor quests (weren't main story quests, just very easy side quests), killed anything that got in my way (but didn't go hunting), and netted just over 45k xp. That averages out to 7 hours of very casual game time to level, and I didn't even bother to apply any effort.

Not really seeing a problem.

READ THE THREAD!

It's not time, it's that there aren't enough quests.

Thanks for your... erm... insight, though. It's been very helpful. I'll forward your application to ZOS.

Robocles

Maotti_Nor wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Jagath wrote: »

My understanding from reading the various posts from Gina and other zeni mods is that this patch will only fix the ability to level bug. The changes to the quest xp cap and the amount required to level i.e 1mill will be in a future patch. They have given no time frame that I am aware of.

You're half correct. Today's patch will fix the ability to level in Veteran Ranks, and the reduction of XP needed to 1 million. The fix for quest XP caps will be in our next patch.

So it's safe and useful to level up VR alts under VR14 again?

Quest XP is still improperly capped.