Does ZoS view ESO's console release as its savior?

zaria

Spottswoode wrote: »

I sincerely doubt ZOS sees consoles as their saviors. The MMO market for consoles couldn't hope to make income anywhere close to PC market. Consoles are becoming more MMO friendly but the gap is way too wide to bank on. I wouldn't expect any more than 150000 players to stick around for more than three months (and I would call that estimate gloriously optimistic) because the majority of console sales revolves around annual sequels, DLC, and premium services. That last one gives some indication there is a market for subscription based services, but they are by no means equivalent.
Game sales will definitely give an income spike, but this is a market that focuses on the long haul. If the console version ever happens, rest assured they will get the @$$ end of everything.

We don't have lot of experience about MMO on consoles, FF:arr looks like doing well and its an sub MMO. Destiny has lots of MMO elements and is very successful.

Main benefit for ESO on consoles is the lack of competition. Yet another MMO on pc is not big news.

Moiskormoimi

Dalexx wrote: »

Khan wrote: »

No game can survive this current course of action/inaction.

None.

Not with the current business model adopted by ZoS.

Oh come on now. There were no end to the doomsayers for WoW's launch problems even a year in, you still folks claiming "Blizz blew it!" Hell, you could probably find plenty of gloom and doom talk for League of Legends and any other popular game. Mistakes happen, they will learn and hopefully put better procedures in place.

If I recall right, I saw a chart that stated that the Xbox360 accounted for 50% of Skyrims 20 million copies sold. To me, the game(for a MMO) feels very console friendly and less PC centric. So yes, I do think consoles could be the game's savior. I just don't know if there is really a market for it.

I truly wish people would stop trying to compare every mmo out there to World of Warcraft. It was an anomoly in and of itself in regards to mmos as a whole. MMOs are generally a niche product and each mmo will appeal to different personalities. It did set the tone, yes, but let's not pretend that if it were launched right this second, it would have even a fraction of the success it has grown to have.

KenjiJU

Wait a week, take a break. Crap happens, crap happened. Still, it's not the end of the world. If this game really hinges on a population that is so impatient and brought to tears because they feel they can't play or enjoy the game for one week, then I hope that it and all other games and future games fueled by that population die so that the playerbase can grow a pair. Srsly.

Spottswoode

zaria wrote: »

We don't have lot of experience about MMO on consoles, FF:arr looks like doing well and its an sub MMO. Destiny has lots of MMO elements and is very successful.

Main benefit for ESO on consoles is the lack of competition. Yet another MMO on pc is not big news.

It has potential. But I don't think that most of the COD/"Hype" gamers are going to stick around, and they are where most of the money is at. Some of the RPG hungy gamers probably will stick around for a while. I'm confident the game will have good sales; it's just a matter of whether any of them will have subs for more than one or two months.

We'll have a general idea of where the game is going to be console-wise after we see the Gamestop sales, but until then I'm very skeptical.

Louis

as i have stated on some comment i made before referring towards the console version.
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ZOS is smart enough to not release the Game on Consoles yet. they have a handful as it is on PC what more on Consoles + PC all together with patching here and there.

Lord_Kreegan

guybrushtb16_ESO wrote: »

Personally, I hold the customer base responsible for that. People generally are idiots. All those early access programms, all the buy-in "betas", all the overpriced DLCs exist because people buy them. People are literally crying for this *** and they have absolutely zero regard for production value at all.

At that point, it's perfectly understandable why the industy does what it does; the easiest way for them is to just throw that junk out there and shove it down their throats no matter what it looks like.

Blaming the customer for the lack of integrity in the company's management team that produced the product? Blaming the customer for the lack of integrity in the marketing push?

Get real.

Sure, customers can be stupid. The fact is, customers have "hope". They hope that the product is going to be what has been advertised. The fact is, customers want to trust the manufacturers.

But it is not their decision to produce a bad product or use false advertising.

There is a reason that "Caveat Emptor" ("Let the buyer beware!") dates way back into the past. Greedy *** have no qualms about bilking people out of their money.

Blame "hope" and "trust", not people. People who have hopes and trust others are usually good people, not people at fault for a bad product.

Rationalize it all you want; you're all wet.

Moiskormoimi

I'm with the 'not going to happen' crowd. Most other games have at least gameplay out by this time. Their intent was hopefully December from the last update about it. There truly hasn't been any updates about console, no game play footage, no screenshots to speak of...nothing. While ESO is still running, it may not have the capacity or profit margin to allow for a console transfer, which is fine. Specializing at one thing rather than stretching yourself thin is a much better option.