This underdog bonus is SCREWING DC over again. PLEASE look at screen shots

Lord Stark

So we have taken over almost the whole map through hard work and we are ticking less points then other people? This is surely not how the bonus was meant to work and we are getting the short end of the stick here.. They have a low population bonus and have MORE players online then DC... NOT COOL
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Lord Stark

We have many more scrolls, keeps, resources, and outposts then they do, we are ticking around 245 and AD who owns next to nothing is ticking 260 points??? They can literally win by doing nothing at all...

Gaettusk

Same benefit DC had last campaign cycle; I didnt see you or your EG zergling guildies whining about it then :P

Lord_Draevan

Jesus, I was just on Thornblade NA this morning, EP and DC had 9 keeps each... *** happened, fellow EP?

But yeah, that underdog bonus is way too much in this case.

Zintair

Lord Stark wrote: »

We have many more scrolls, keeps, resources, and outposts then they do, we are ticking around 245 and AD who owns next to nothing is ticking 260 points??? They can literally win by doing nothing at all...

Funny how you forget the only reason you were in the running the first time the buff was around is because YOU got this buff.

/amuse that now your crying.

Deal with it like EP has to.

B_lov3d

lol right now on thorn AD is getting 432 per score tick if it keeps up. We are all same pop level and EP is the underdog right now and has been since beginning of the campaign.

Not complaining just saying why does any faction need 4x the amount of the other and why would it go to the 2nd place team? o_O. Please fix so it's far for all factions ^_^.

Dreyloch

Stark,
You DO understand that bonus thing goes into effect after a certain amount of time right? It's a rolling calculation which will go away if that faction stays at a certain "higher" pop level. But playing devil's advocate here, Idk HOW they got it in the first place. Anytime i've been on during primetime since patch, ALL the factions are pop locked. /shrug

manny254

This is not limited to one faction. The other month dc was the beneficiary of the pop bonus.

Lord Stark

You guys can try to be cute and talk about how I wasn't here complaining last campaign when it wasn't us getting screwed.. I didn't see this exact scenario last campaign or I would have. If you were getting screwed the same way its your job to get on here and let the devs know.. call it crying call it whatever you want..
There is no logical reason a team should get the most points for doing a terrible job.... That's like giving a team 7 points for letting the other team in football score 6, or a goal in hockey giving the other teal 1.5 points... I want it fixed for everyone not just DC. I want fair competition all around.

Lord Stark

Zintair wrote: »

Lord Stark wrote: »

We have many more scrolls, keeps, resources, and outposts then they do, we are ticking around 245 and AD who owns next to nothing is ticking 260 points??? They can literally win by doing nothing at all...

Funny how you forget the only reason you were in the running the first time the buff was around is because YOU got this buff.

/amuse that now your crying.

Deal with it like EP has to.

No one should have to deal with it, it should be brought up and then addressed which is why I am here.. I am wanting to better the game and just have a point system that makes sense.

Be a cool guy D bag all you want about it I don't mind as long as you are here reading and adding comments its helping my cause regardless.

jnjapexb14_ESO

They mentioned at some point like an above posted said the calculation is a rolling calculation that occurs every X hours that calculates average population over the last Y hours. So the side that demonstrated a low population calculation at one point in time, they may continue to get the bonus for X hours or even X + X hours after they regain population and even exceed the other factions. We have no idea what X and Y are, only ZOS knows.

I think in general the calculation and timing of X and Y is just borked. Par for the course at ZOS.

Pchela

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

Jesus, I was just on Thornblade NA this morning, EP and DC had 9 keeps each... *** happened, fellow EP?

But yeah, that underdog bonus is way too much in this case.

Certain EP decided to farm the scroll gate instead of defending against the DC emp push

Lord_Draevan

bees83 wrote: »

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

Jesus, I was just on Thornblade NA this morning, EP and DC had 9 keeps each... *** happened, fellow EP?

But yeah, that underdog bonus is way too much in this case.

Certain EP decided to farm the scroll gate instead of defending against the DC emp push

ಠ__ಠ

This displeases me.

bertenburnyb16_ESO

So Zos tell me just how this is about to be working?
underdog bonus for bananas and 532 potential points with all 3 sides populationlocked at 23h20 GMT+1 on EU thornblade.... again

Kungfu

Yellow is better in metric

Manoekin

We figured out the calculation and adjust our population to certain levels at certain times in order to achieve the population bonus during our most effective hours.

Game, Bananas.

Lfehova

Manoekin wrote: »

We figured out the calculation and adjust our population to certain levels at certain times in order to achieve the population bonus during our most effective hours.

Game, Bananas.

Lol for reals. We all had 2 bar pop today during that screenshot, and AD had underdog bonus. What in the eff rofl.

Rylana

Here is a solution - stop purpling up on AD overnight and this wouldnt happen in the morning.

Take everything from AD, when AD is 1 bar vs 2 bar EP/DC each, overnight, and for the next four hours watch yourselves fall farther behind.

Time for red and blue to start actually fighting each other again.

PROTIP - AD was 1 bar from 4-7am, that lowpop bonus is from that timeframe when were outnumbered 4-1

Gooey

Rylana wrote: »

Here is a solution - stop purpling up on AD overnight and this wouldnt happen in the morning.

Take everything from AD, when AD is 1 bar vs 2 bar EP/DC each, overnight, and for the next four hours watch yourselves fall farther behind.

Time for red and blue to start actually fighting each other again.

PROTIP - AD was 1 bar from 4-7am, that lowpop bonus is from that timeframe when were outnumbered 4-1

While we're requesting people to stop double teaming, please stop spilling your orange all over DC.

Rylana

Gooey wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Here is a solution - stop purpling up on AD overnight and this wouldnt happen in the morning.

Take everything from AD, when AD is 1 bar vs 2 bar EP/DC each, overnight, and for the next four hours watch yourselves fall farther behind.

Time for red and blue to start actually fighting each other again.

PROTIP - AD was 1 bar from 4-7am, that lowpop bonus is from that timeframe when were outnumbered 4-1

While we're requesting people to stop double teaming, please stop spilling your orange all over DC.

Blue emp = youre the target of the day.

Manoekin

Gooey wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Here is a solution - stop purpling up on AD overnight and this wouldnt happen in the morning.

Take everything from AD, when AD is 1 bar vs 2 bar EP/DC each, overnight, and for the next four hours watch yourselves fall farther behind.

Time for red and blue to start actually fighting each other again.

PROTIP - AD was 1 bar from 4-7am, that lowpop bonus is from that timeframe when were outnumbered 4-1

While we're requesting people to stop double teaming, please stop spilling your orange all over DC.

serenenightmare

Manoekin wrote: »

Gooey wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Here is a solution - stop purpling up on AD overnight and this wouldnt happen in the morning.

Take everything from AD, when AD is 1 bar vs 2 bar EP/DC each, overnight, and for the next four hours watch yourselves fall farther behind.

Time for red and blue to start actually fighting each other again.

PROTIP - AD was 1 bar from 4-7am, that lowpop bonus is from that timeframe when were outnumbered 4-1

While we're requesting people to stop double teaming, please stop spilling your orange all over DC.

faaaaaail

Manoekin

serenenightmare wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

Gooey wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Here is a solution - stop purpling up on AD overnight and this wouldnt happen in the morning.

Take everything from AD, when AD is 1 bar vs 2 bar EP/DC each, overnight, and for the next four hours watch yourselves fall farther behind.

Time for red and blue to start actually fighting each other again.

PROTIP - AD was 1 bar from 4-7am, that lowpop bonus is from that timeframe when were outnumbered 4-1

While we're requesting people to stop double teaming, please stop spilling your orange all over DC.

faaaaaail

I love you too.

Turelus

So it seems we have three threads about this now and it's still being ignored.

Lord Stark

Why people come on here to toss around their faction pride is beyond me, this is a thread meant to bring to light a scoring system that is flawed.. I don't give two short and curlies (yeah I just quoted the walking dead idc) about what you think about DC AD or EP, I don't care about if you are butt hurt thinking factions are double teaming you.. None of it..

I want a plain and simple scoring system that works and makes actual sense.
I want the people doing the right things, at the right time, to get scores that REFLECT that.. I don't care if you had a low pop bonus from HOURS before that score I showed, I don't care if the score is based off of a rolling calculation.. that has nothing to do with how well its actually working.. it's not a decent scoring system.

Manoekin

Lord Stark wrote: »

Why people come on here to toss around their faction pride is beyond me, this is a thread meant to bring to light a scoring system that is flawed.. I don't give two short and curlies (yeah I just quoted the walking dead idc) about what you think about DC AD or EP, I don't care about if you are butt hurt thinking factions are double teaming you.. None of it..

I want a plain and simple scoring system that works and makes actual sense.
I want the people doing the right things, at the right time, to get scores that REFLECT that.. I don't care if you had a low pop bonus from HOURS before that score I showed, I don't care if the score is based off of a rolling calculation.. that has nothing to do with how well its actually working.. it's not a decent scoring system.

It's not. I just find it hilarious since it came out of EP and DC's frustrations with being night capped by AD. Now it's benefiting us.

It's a game after all. If you can't have fun you should probably take a small break. Wish they'd remove the bonus all together though.

Turelus

@Manoekin the thing is though this has to be a broken mechanic/feature as it's granting the AD bonus points while they're at population lock.

Even as an AD player you must understand how bad this is for the game if a random faction (for some reason always AD on EU Thornblade) is randomly getting 300-800 bonus points for a reason which no one can figure out.
Even if this was for the lesser populations online at the time the numbers being granted go beyond what a faction is able to score with 100% map control.

Rylana

Turelus wrote: »

@Manoekin the thing is though this has to be a broken mechanic/feature as it's granting the AD bonus points while they're at population lock.

Even as an AD player you must understand how bad this is for the game if a random faction (for some reason always AD on EU Thornblade) is randomly getting 300-800 bonus points for a reason which no one can figure out.
Even if this was for the lesser populations online at the time the numbers being granted go beyond what a faction is able to score with 100% map control.

Considering they were not at pop lock when they had everything taken from them, and it should be expected to be penalized for beating on a low pop population, i see no problem with this.

Lava_Croft

All the people ignoring the obvious bug because they want to spill some misplaced faction pride: Take a hike, this is an actual bug report.

Rylana

Lava_Croft wrote: »

All the people ignoring the obvious bug because they want to spill some misplaced faction pride: Take a hike, this is an actual bug report.

Its actually not, it is working as intended. It was put in place with the timers it has to prevent what I am of the understanding that EP and DC are trying to do.

Gang up on AD and take everything from them while they arent even on.

If you do that when the population is lower than yours, youre going to be penalized for the next four hours (i believe its four), even after they come back and start taking things back.

Lava_Croft

Rylana wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

All the people ignoring the obvious bug because they want to spill some misplaced faction pride: Take a hike, this is an actual bug report.

Its actually not, it is working as intended. It was put in place with the timers it has to prevent what I am of the understanding that EP and DC are trying to do.

Gang up on AD and take everything from them while they arent even on.

If you do that when the population is lower than yours, youre going to be penalized for the next four hours (i believe its four), even after they come back and start taking things back.

This happens at prime time too, with all factions locked, AD having Emperor and quite a lot of keeps.

Like last night on EU-TB.