Taking bets on next cry/nerf

Dreyloch

So camps are gone. Hurray! Less zergling keep crushes that end in lagging out the server, making skills lag, rubber-banding etc. The general reason soo many left the PvP part of this game.(although all of that still occurred last night after patch. But it was just one battle)Which means it's still not entirely perfect, but a much better step in the right direction.

So now I'm thinking the next thing to get nerfed is stealth. No players will have the ability to stealth because the /cry will be sooo loud about the gank grps taking over the map. /whaaaa I can't get between keeps, /whaaaa I keep getting killed! /whaaaa NERF STEALTH.

I don't claim to be a sage, soothsayer, oracle, or even a cheap fortune teller at the carnival....
But I am willing to take bets this will happen. Been ganked myself many a time. I hate it, but it's currently part of the game. Can't do much about it. Getting 3/4 health taken off and knocked off my horse before I even see who shot me is pretty disgustingly OP. Something CAN be done about that at least.

Stealth has it's purpose. It needs to stay in game imo. Just get rid of the ability for certain classes to destroy you before you hit the ground off your horse. That's just dumb mechanics ZoS.

Or of course, I could play an NB, and gank the gankers. But why play a class that needs stealth and cheap trick crit's to win a battle? Sorry, that's not fun.

Ifthir_ESO

dk with full heavy shouldnt be able to stealth in a sunny field like a nb in a cellar

Davadin

Next stealth is Bow.

phreatophile

Hardly the "next" thing whiners get nerfed. Whiners got stealth damage and Bat Swarm healing nerfed in this patch.

Even with Impen/radiant magelight/ health in the 3K range/using your head for something other than a hatrack to mitigate, they still nerfed stealth and vampires.

My guess the new whine will be the same as the old whine: Vampires and stealth.

Cody

me and many others will still call vamps slightly OP of course:)
im willing to bet people will start calling uppercut and momentum OP at some point.

though its likely the stealth nerf

kevlarto_ESO

Elemental Blockade, it has became to much of the new fotm. Nerf the high ground LOL

kijima

Erm... Stealth is so broken right now, I can't see to many people thinking it deserves a nerf.

Still, I'm sure there will be salty tears from all the ganking that will take place.

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO

It will be Bow again, people are already crying that Snipe is too powerful with the cast time shortened.

Like I said in many post's before this one, you Nerf the thing causing the trouble, which in the last case was Snipe doing too much damage and being used from stealth to one shot people, you do not Nerf overall sneak attack damage as a knee jerk reaction, I mean with all the buffs they have been giving weapon damage I understand they should Nerf it a little bit but 20% is alot, maybe 5-10% to start and work there way through until it's balanced.

I use Bow and Dual wielding, and last night I was in PvE fighting Dwemer, ok I was Dwemer Motif hunting...you got me.. and attacked one of those big Dwemer robots with Snipe, Poison arrow and Disorienting Strike and basically almost outright killed him.

So IMHO I think Snipe is still alittle OP now because the cast time has been shortened. So I think they need to lower the damage a bit..

but just a bit..

stoop420

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »

It will be Bow again, people are already crying that Snipe is too powerful with the cast time shortened.

Yup, snipe will be nerfed. I almost don't want to use it to avoid rage-tells.

Yolokin_Swagonborn

They are coming after crafted gear next. They want more people to do PvE so they will make crafted gear, (and selecting your own traits) less valuable in favor of getting drops from dungeon bosses.

kijima

stoop420 wrote: »

Yup, snipe will be nerfed. I almost don't want to use it to avoid rage-tells.

Bah, rage tells are hilarious!

themizario

Next nerf Reflective Scales

Bushrat

Dreyloch wrote: »

Or of course, I could play an NB, and gank the gankers. But why play a class that needs stealth and cheap trick crit's to win a battle? Sorry, that's not fun.

Not fun for you but fun for many like me. I love to stealth hunt and fight other gankers. Same way some like to sword and board or spam blazing shield or reflective scales to survive attacks from 5 people at once (if you are a DK). Don't knock my fun because you don't like to play that way. In reality its rare for NB to be able to go toe to toe against a decent DK or tanky Templar.... so why pick on us when we use what little advantage we have to win a fight..... seriously?!!?

Soris

My bet is on snipe or/and reflective scales

Soulac

Not a nerf but I can feel an another incoming break of Shadow cloak.

Ouh forgot it.. this patch already broke it even more..

GwaynLoki

Soulac wrote: »

Not a nerf but I can feel an another incoming break of Shadow cloak.

Ouh forgot it.. this patch already broke it even more..

I am absolutely sure that - considering their competence when it comes to introducing new things and the extensive knowledge of their own game - Zeni is very unlikely to break any important aspect of the game with a patch.

Rylana

The short list of things to be nerfed (fixed actually) in the immediate future:

1. Wall of Elements (Does not adhere to AOE Cap rules under certain conditions)
2. Poison Injection (Overbalanced, does way more damage than a skill of that cost should, seriously, its doing almost twice as much damage over time as flame lash and has four times the range and about half the cost)
3. Snipe and morphs (Overbalanced, they should have left it at 2 seconds cast time)


I dont see them changing scales any time soon. since all DK class abilities are short range/melee, they must have a counter to inevitable incoming ranged attacks.

Ghostbane

They'll nerf horses. Zeni hates whinners.

Nijjion

Reflective scale for DKs... will hopefully put DKs to their death

Also Blazing shield will need to be nerfed especially with aoe caps going soon, but even with it does need an adjustment. A shield shouldn't be doing 600-700 damage (PBAOE) with good magic resistance.

Though saying that if it gets nerfed too much what other builds do they have to go? All templars go at the moment is shield spamming the 1 button as only viable build. Must be a boring class to play unless they change some stuff.

cazlonb16_ESO

Gankers will need to be nerfed or the already low PvP population will drop substantially, by about 2/3 by my educated guess in the long run. Don't know how things are in NA, but in Europe, that would kill the one remaining active campaign.

Nijjion wrote: »

Though saying that if it gets nerfed too much what other builds do they have to go?

Stamina builds...And heal monkeys, like in PvE.

Jitterbug

100 G on "nerf Argonian swim speed"

Asgari

faernaa wrote: »

My bet is on snipe or/and reflective scales

How is a 4 second lasting skill op? it stops projectiles only. plenty of other attacks that can kill a DK. adjust your play style and get over it.

Maulkin

My guess is archers will bleat about Reflective Scales, Shield Stacking and OP block. Anything that they can't drop in 2" basically

Everyone else will bleat about Archers doing insane burst as well as high DPS while being out of range.

Some DKs and Temps will complain about Fear especially if you can no longer hold block while feared.

Impulse, people will always complain about Impulse.

Have I covered everything?

Dreyloch

Bushrat wrote: »

Dreyloch wrote: »

Or of course, I could play an NB, and gank the gankers. But why play a class that needs stealth and cheap trick crit's to win a battle? Sorry, that's not fun.

Not fun for you but fun for many like me. I love to stealth hunt and fight other gankers. Same way some like to sword and board or spam blazing shield or reflective scales to survive attacks from 5 people at once (if you are a DK). Don't knock my fun because you don't like to play that way. In reality its rare for NB to be able to go toe to toe against a decent DK or tanky Templar.... so why pick on us when we use what little advantage we have to win a fight..... seriously?!!?

First off, I'll bet that more ppl in Cyrodiil hate gankers than play that style.Second, you call it an advantage? Shooting someone from stealth knocking them off their horse, where you're basically stunned for 3-5 seconds. Then before that person can even cast something like reflective scales,( let alone see where the shot came from)...they are dead. Nah buddy. That's lame beyond words. It's cheap and skill-less gameplay. You might wanna talk to ZoS about surviving toe to toe with a tank type though. Then they can take away this one shotting from behind while stealthed BS.