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Oh, warlock's...

Nihili
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I have 5 toons, all that I plan to level up. Currently, of those 5 toons I have one at VR5 and another at level 30, and specifically for these two I had hoped I could get the Warlock's focus and signets (as they are my big magicka builds).

*Sigh*
That's like 400k gold I have to pay for 6 items right? I believe that's the going rate at the moment...

:sob::sob::sob:
  • CoolsHisHands
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    The Warlock set is currently the only set where it's significantly useful with just 3 jewelry pieces, leaving all your armour and weapon slots open for other dropped/crafted sets.

    Everyone wants the jewelry. People pay crazy prices even for VR1 signets! You can buy all of the Warlock armour pieces on the cheap though.
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  • Nestor
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    The lower level rings are dropping, I have found three of them. I also think the VR1 Rings are still dropping, but you have to be VR1 for that to happen (maybe not, but the place they should drop at is not giving them to me for my VR4 character). It was my VR1 characters that got two of them.

    I had 3 in my inventory and vendored two of the VR1 rings before I knew they were so rare. The one I have (L37) is unfortunately bound to my account so I can't sell it or give it away and I have no use for it.
    Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.

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  • itsBishop
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    15+ AA runs over the past week with guildmates, 12 group members across 3 separate bosses = 540 individual chances to receive a signet. Nada. Zilch. The drop rate is effectively nonexistent.
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  • Nihili
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    itsBishop wrote: »
    15+ AA runs over the past week with guildmates, 12 group members across 3 separate bosses = 540 individual chances to receive a signet. Nada. Zilch. The drop rate is effectively nonexistent.

    I really, truly hope this isn't the case. I figured (seeing as I'll never buy them) that at some stage I'll have to try a 4 hour farm session, but if these numbers are true I might as well give up on it :'(
  • Gyudan
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    The Warlock set is currently the only set where it's significantly useful with just 3 jewelry pieces, leaving all your armour and weapon slots open for other dropped/crafted sets.

    Everyone wants the jewelry. People pay crazy prices even for VR1 signets! You can buy all of the Warlock armour pieces on the cheap though.

    The set isn't worth the effort if you use only 3 pieces. If that's the case, the Healer's Habit set exists in VR13 and VR14 purple with the same stats.

    It's a decent 5 pieces set but I don't think the bonus is that good. 712 magicka every 60 seconds = 11.87 magicka / second = 23.73 extra magicka recovery
    It's definitely good for burst damage in PVP, granting you a larger magicka pool but I wouldn't use it in long PVE fights like trials.

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  • Aeratus
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    The Warlock set is currently the only set where it's significantly useful with just 3 jewelry pieces, leaving all your armour and weapon slots open for other dropped/crafted sets.
    That's untrue. Warlock is not the only magicka-based set with 3 jewelry pieces. There is also the "of the Healer" set and the Soulshine set for magicka users.
    Edited by Aeratus on October 30, 2014 5:17PM
  • Beesting
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    The rings do drop, at least the purple v 12's do, as you can read in the thread the cursed ring of the warlock
    If you look carefully you can even see where

    And if your magica recovery is overcharged like mine, the warlock is still a very nice set to use
    Edited by Beesting on October 30, 2014 5:30PM
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  • Nestor
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    Thing is, you can get pretty close to the same stats with some of the crafted sets, other than the Magic Flood at 5 Pieces. The Magic Regen can be almost had with other pieces from Seducer if you just want the 3 Piece Bonus. Then use or make rings to make up what your lacking. Or, you can add magic regen glyphs to other rings and get the regen there. Now, if you can replace the enchantments on the rings to gain additional regen to add to what the set gives, then that is something different. But then your bouncing up against the softcaps so it's questionable just how good that approach is.

    I am starting to think that the Warlock set is desirable just because it is so hard to get, not because it is the end all be all of dropped sets.
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  • dharbert
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    I've said this in three other Warlock posts now. If you are DC, your first vet zone is Auridon. Mehrune's Spite delve in Auridon drops this set. I've got 15 rings and focus in that delve so far. I'm sure the first vet zone for the other alliances have a similar delve.

    It takes effort and grinding on your part if you want that set. I've probably grinded at least 1,000 NPC's myself in that delve to get those rings. It's not VR12, but at least you'll have the set.
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    dharbert wrote: »
    I've said this in three other Warlock posts now. If you are DC, your first vet zone is Auridon. Mehrune's Spite delve in Auridon drops this set.

    Does it drop if you are above VR1? I have spent some time in there with a VR2/3 character and not gotten any of the Warlock items. Not a 1000 Mobs worth of time, but I would expect something from the amount of things I killed in there.

    Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.

    PakKat "Everything was going well, until I died"
    Gary Gravestink "I am glad you died, I needed the help"

  • itsBishop
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    Beesting wrote: »
    The rings do drop, at least the purple v 12's do, as you can read in the thread the cursed ring of the warlock

    If you look carefully you can even see where

    Sanctum Ophidia? I've heard this rumor, but have yet to see the ring pop up myself after a solid number of mantikora (and other boss) kills. It also seems strange that the ring would be v12, when everything else that drops off of SO bosses is v14. Shrug.

    At this point I've basically resigned myself to never getting a full v12 set again. Like other have pointed out, there are other options that offer better bonuses (especially for DPS), but as a healer with magicka recovery already soft capped it's hard to replace the incredible sustain that it offers without having to sacrifice cost reduction/weapon damage glyphs on jewels.
    Edited by itsBishop on October 30, 2014 6:08PM
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  • dharbert
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    Nestor wrote: »
    dharbert wrote: »
    I've said this in three other Warlock posts now. If you are DC, your first vet zone is Auridon. Mehrune's Spite delve in Auridon drops this set.

    Does it drop if you are above VR1? I have spent some time in there with a VR2/3 character and not gotten any of the Warlock items. Not a 1000 Mobs worth of time, but I would expect something from the amount of things I killed in there.

    Yes, I got the entire set and multiple rings there with a VR9 toon. There are 5 other sets that can also be obtained in this delve. There are only about 32 mobs in it, all Daedric. Just go through there with Silver Shards and either Expert or Camouflaged Hunter and wipe the entire place out in a few minutes. Rinse, repeat.

    EDIT: As a side note, this delve has 11 possible chest locations and drops the Akaviri Dragonguard, Shrouded Armor, Magicka Furnace, Sanctuary (chest only), and Kyne's Flight (chest only) sets. It's a very small delve that has a decent number of chests and is extremely easy to wipe out.
    Edited by dharbert on October 30, 2014 6:28PM
  • Psychobunni
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    Wasn't it nice of ZOS to go in and gimp a set that many got rather cheap compared to prices asked now? (they admitted intentional nerf in a different thread) Luckily, I had VR1 rings on another less used toon I could use myself because I would never farm to raise enough gold, or even pay 400k a piece for anything in this game.
    If options weren't necessary, and everyone played the same way, no one would use addons. Fix the UI!

  • dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO
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    Nihili wrote: »
    itsBishop wrote: »
    15+ AA runs over the past week with guildmates, 12 group members across 3 separate bosses = 540 individual chances to receive a signet. Nada. Zilch. The drop rate is effectively nonexistent.

    I really, truly hope this isn't the case. I figured (seeing as I'll never buy them) that at some stage I'll have to try a 4 hour farm session, but if these numbers are true I might as well give up on it :'(

    Well they released more pieces you can wear so you can still get 5 clothes, not as good but still. I did aa a lot,took me quite a while to get 2/rings even a couple months ago. The thing is why are people so surprised its expensive/ difficult to find things that are dropping in end game content?
  • Cuyler
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    The thing is why are people so surprised its expensive/ difficult to find things that are dropping in end game content?

    For me it's not that they're expensive it's that I'm lucky to even see one anywhere. I've been looking everyday and I can't even find one for sale :mrgreen:

    Edited by Cuyler on October 30, 2014 8:00PM
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  • Nihili
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    Well they released more pieces you can wear so you can still get 5 clothes, not as good but still. I did aa a lot,took me quite a while to get 2/rings even a couple months ago. The thing is why are people so surprised its expensive/ difficult to find things that are dropping in end game content?

    Oh, well you see I had planned to make use of the three jewel pieces in conjunction with two warlock armor pieces which will give me the 5 piece bonus and leave space for me to equip another crafted set. The fact that I could equip another armor set was what I found appealing. So I'd rather not do the 5 warlock armor pieces :)

    Hmm I was never really surprised. I don't think I expressed surprise at the current drop-rate anywhere in my posts - I'm merely lamenting the drop-rate. Which I consider pretty reasonable: I think the drop-rate can be justified or argued against, but either way I'm just depressed that I might never get these things. Is that wrong?
  • thesongoftimeb14_ESO
    A couple weeks ago, I discovered that I had 2 V1 warlock rings in one of my alts. Guess I was holding on to them for when I reached vet 1 and forgot. Now for two weeks, I have been unable to decide if I should save them for the v12 set, or sell them. How good can v1 rings be on a v12 set?
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    All it really does is put late comers to the game at a severe disadvantage.
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  • Pmarsico9
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    VR1 Warlocks are very easy to farm. VR12 rings and necks are going for 40K+ each.
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    Pmarsico9 wrote: »
    VR1 Warlocks are very easy to farm. VR12 rings and necks are going for 40K+ each.
    Only the rings.
    Necklaces drop quite often, I've received 2 purple ones recently.
    Wololo.
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