When is 1.5 going to be released?

jelliedsoup

I will see what it's like, then cancel my sub after the apparent weapon/stam buffs are non-existent or nerfs.

Thanks again for the last 6 months, genius game for light armour and staffs. Whoever designed this game either got the wrong brief, or really farked it up.

Thanks again for marketing falsely, taking my money, and promising things which never eventuate.

Fool me once....

kijima

So, this is yet another thread about you and your lack of being able to build a proper stamina toon. I bet your main is AD and uses a bow.

Stamina builds work, you just haven't worked it out yet.

ers101284b14_ESO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZrzg62Zj0

AshySamurai

Can I have your stuff?

jeevin

Goodbye /close thread.

xaraan

I'm kind of over the whole stamina needs buffed threads. It was a true statement after launch. I've had a stamina character since launch, before buffs, before vet was nerfed, got him through all content, etc. I knew there was a need for adjustments and balancing then. I've since leveled new characters, as well as continued to play him. It's pretty balanced now. It still needs work of course, it always will - in fact it needs work from both sides. There are some things that are over powered now in fact. I really think it's a case of players not knowing how to build characters more than an issue with what's in the game right now. (And I'm saying this before the next round of buffs are coming in the next patch).

jelliedsoup

Not true, no mitigation or healing via stam.

Unless you do a lot of damage from stealth its just not viable. People who claim otherwise are talking bollocks.

Kronuxx

They were actually hoping to release it as soon you left. So, please hurry and leave, so that we all may try it out while you're gone.

jelliedsoup

kijima wrote: »

So, this is yet another thread about you and your lack of being able to build a proper stamina toon. I bet your main is AD and uses a bow.

Stamina builds work, you just haven't worked it out yet.

There is no proper stam toon, If you cannot damage you cannot kill.

What mitigation and heal do you use?

Funny thing is I never get killed by stam only builds, it sounds as if I'm calling bs.

Lunerdog

Running a stamina build Two Handed using Orc DK at the moment, no issues.

You just gotta suss out how to manage your stam, Green Dragon Blood FTW

jelliedsoup

I'm an nb, i get nothing worthwhile apart from dark cloak which breaks a lot.

Sure I could use a magicka build with ambush, impale, fear, siphon, but I prefer weapons and that is my point.

Its just not possible. All that happens is if I stun them I will usually kill them. If they recover the self heal, mitatgation kicks in and I'll then die.usually from talons, bats, streak, etc...

I have 2550 stam, around 230 weapon DMG. Its just too one dimensional in open combat a stam build will die to a magicka build if they use healing, and absorption. If someone claims otherwise I'd like to see of as ive never died to a stamina build who I got the jump on. Macika builds it happens time and time again, healing mitigation then whatever DPS they have .

It's simply not possible, unless I'm popping potions constantly.

GnatB

jelliedsoup wrote: »

I'm an nb, i get nothing worthwhile apart from dark cloak which breaks a lot.

Sure I could use a magicka build with ambush, impale, fear, siphon, but I prefer weapons and that is my point.

What's your point? Dark cloak is magicka too. If you're swearing off all Magicka then you shouldn't be using it either. If you aren't, then you may as well toss in some other class abilities. Say syphon, for a bit of healing. (Though unfortunately it scales with max magicka)


(Incidentally, I sorta feel all healing/shielding should scale off the HP of the person being healed as a base, which would include the healing from syphon stuff. And possibly be interesting if a stat point into sta increases HP a smidge too, so sta builds would tend to have more HP than mag builds, and thus be more efficient to heal/shield.)

Gyudan

GnatB wrote: »

(Incidentally, I sorta feel all healing/shielding should scale off the HP of the person being healed as a base, which would include the healing from syphon stuff. And possibly be interesting if a stat point into sta increases HP a smidge too, so sta builds would tend to have more HP than mag builds, and thus be more efficient to heal/shield.)

Soooo you want pure healers to heal based on the target's max health too? What about their own magicka and spell/weapon dmg? Shouldn't that count too?

Mountain_Dewed

You should delete the leaving part if you want this thread to stay alive.

Pallmor

jelliedsoup wrote: »

I will see what it's like, then cancel my sub after the apparent weapon/stam buffs are non-existent or nerfs.

Thanks again for the last 6 months, genius game for light armour and staffs. Whoever designed this game either got the wrong brief, or really farked it up.

Thanks again for marketing falsely, taking my money, and promising things which never eventuate.

Fool me once....

Would you like a tissue and a hug?

Gythral

jelliedsoup wrote: »

I will see what it's like, then cancel my sub after the apparent weapon/stam buffs are non-existent or nerfs.

Thanks again for the last 6 months, genius game for light armour and staffs. Whoever designed this game either got the wrong brief, or really farked it up.

Thanks again for marketing falsely, taking my money, and promising things which never eventuate.

Fool me once....

So I take it you dont buy UBisoft or EA Games

Ohioastro

My dual wield / bow nightblade is doing just fine in Caldwells' Gold. I've been playing around with destro staff / dual wield and it works extremely well too (basically, one bar for stamina abilities; one for magika ones; flip between.)

It also works well to use DW/ bow and mix in some magika skills with the stamina-oriented weapons ones.

You have two pools; why not use them?

jluceyub17_ESO

Addressing the subject of the thread and not this dude's clear L2P issues.

Normal pattern seems to be 6 weeks on PTS with a 2 patches before 1.X.3 hits the live server. 1.5.1 dropped on 10/20, so 1.5.2 on monday 11/3 and 1.5.3 live on main server 11/17?

Potenza

How many times are you gonna quit? Seen your other quit threads. Quit already.

jelliedsoup

GnatB wrote: »

jelliedsoup wrote: »

I'm an nb, i get nothing worthwhile apart from dark cloak which breaks a lot.

Sure I could use a magicka build with ambush, impale, fear, siphon, but I prefer weapons and that is my point.

What's your point? Dark cloak is magicka too. If you're swearing off all Magicka then you shouldn't be using it either. If you aren't, then you may as well toss in some other class abilities. Say syphon, for a bit of healing. (Though unfortunately it scales with max magicka)


(Incidentally, I sorta feel all healing/shielding should scale off the HP of the person being healed as a base, which would include the healing from syphon stuff. And possibly be interesting if a stat point into sta increases HP a smidge too, so sta builds would tend to have more HP than mag builds, and thus be more efficient to heal/shield.)

Obviously I'm not swearing off magicka. Yes I know class skills scale off of magicka.

morvegil

kijima wrote: »

So, this is yet another thread about you and your lack of being able to build a proper stamina toon. I bet your main is AD and uses a bow.

Stamina builds work, you just haven't worked it out yet.

Explain the build that works then genius.

jelliedsoup

As an nb using marked target, unresistable damage, and reducing armour does help a lot.

The l2p crowd knew this of course as l2p Implies all of this without actually saying anything verifiable, that's the beauty of it.

jelliedsoup

Gythral wrote: »

jelliedsoup wrote: »

I will see what it's like, then cancel my sub after the apparent weapon/stam buffs are non-existent or nerfs.

Thanks again for the last 6 months, genius game for light armour and staffs. Whoever designed this game either got the wrong brief, or really farked it up.

Thanks again for marketing falsely, taking my money, and promising things which never eventuate.

Fool me once....

So I take it you dont buy UBisoft or EA Games

I don't play ea games for the same reason.

jelliedsoup

Mountain_Dewed wrote: »

You should delete the leaving part if you want this thread to stay alive.

I don't care if it stays alive or not. I don't expect to be playing beyond 1.5.

But of course we'll see.

GnatB

Gyudan wrote: »

GnatB wrote: »

(Incidentally, I sorta feel all healing/shielding should scale off the HP of the person being healed as a base, which would include the healing from syphon stuff. And possibly be interesting if a stat point into sta increases HP a smidge too, so sta builds would tend to have more HP than mag builds, and thus be more efficient to heal/shield.)

Soooo you want pure healers to heal based on the target's max health too? What about their own magicka and spell/weapon dmg? Shouldn't that count too?

1. Their own magicka pool would still affect how many heal spells they can cast. So in a group you're still going to want your healer stacking mostly magicka. (incidentally, the ease of magicka regeneration is another issue with the game, but that's arguably a separate argument.) Personally, I sorta find it odd that skill effectiveness scales with max magicka/stamina. Seems like it's double dipping. Quality and Quantity should have been separated.
2. Any passives that modify healing effectiveness would still modify that base, and of course, they'd still have to actually *know* the skills.
3. There's no such thing as a pure healer other than the skills slotted into the bar anyways, same stats are currently used for healing that's used for most forms of DPS anyways, Magicka/spell damage. Heck, this change would arguably make pure healers actually a thing. Since instead of stacking spell damage, they could stack survivability stuff, or maybe even stuff that is strictly limited to healing efficiency.

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO

jelliedsoup wrote: »

As an nb using marked target, unresistable damage, and reducing armour does help a lot.

The l2p crowd knew this of course as l2p Implies all of this without actually saying anything verifiable, that's the beauty of it.

Lol its as if some dont realize L2P means LEARN to play, not COPY builds from others and play them.

Akula

jelliedsoup wrote: »

Mountain_Dewed wrote: »

You should delete the leaving part if you want this thread to stay alive.

I don't care if it stays alive or not. I don't expect to be playing beyond 1.5.

But of course we'll see.

Then why did you use it as the title (in form of a question) then troll?

jelliedsoup

Akula wrote: »

jelliedsoup wrote: »

Mountain_Dewed wrote: »

You should delete the leaving part if you want this thread to stay alive.

I don't care if it stays alive or not. I don't expect to be playing beyond 1.5.

But of course we'll see.

Then why did you use it as the title (in form of a question) then troll?

I thought it would have been obvious. Once it's out, i will actually see how shite stealth/stam builds are, and then bail.

If I'm wrong I will gladly admit it.

Your use of "troll' is so redundant anything can be viewed as trolling. It's like l2p on here.

jelliedsoup

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO wrote: »

jelliedsoup wrote: »

As an nb using marked target, unresistable damage, and reducing armour does help a lot.

The l2p crowd knew this of course as l2p Implies all of this without actually saying anything verifiable, that's the beauty of it.

Lol its as if some dont realize L2P means LEARN to play, not COPY builds from others and play them.

CAP - copy and play?

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO

jelliedsoup wrote: »

I will see what it's like, then cancel my sub after the apparent weapon/stam buffs are non-existent or nerfs.

Thanks again for the last 6 months, genius game for light armour and staffs. Whoever designed this game either got the wrong brief, or really farked it up.

Thanks again for marketing falsely, taking my money, and promising things which never eventuate.

Fool me once....

I agree with alot you say here in this thread OP..
@jelliedsoup

I am also watching ZOS very closely now and have changed my sub to a monthly one, I run Kotaro my Khajiit NB as a Stamina build (more like a Hybrid build then anything else but way heavier on Stamina) and am waiting to see what PvP will be like after the next patch and the sneak attack Nerf goes through.

And what also upset's me is the fact that after 7 months they still have not fixed Shadow Cloak and it's Morph's, which is kinda ridiculous, if I had that type of track record at my work I would have been gone in a few days.

The New skill points they will give me for being VR14 in this next patch will be more than likely used to fill out my Resto staff weapon and light armor skill line, so worse case scenario I will make Kotaro a Magicka build, but I am not going to lie when I say that this will make me very upset to say the least, since I really love the build I am running and want to play how I like to play but want to also be effective.

The problem I have is that ZOS are nerfing sneak attack damage overall when the real reason is that people are being One-Shotted by Bows and Snipe while using sneak attacks.

Like I have said before in other threads, you Nerf Snipe then and or change it so people cannot spam it with a heavy attack used in conjuction with it.. You don't Nerf a whole game mechanic like sneak attack damage.