New Computer - Advice Needed

ThePonzzz

So, I've been unable to play much since the July updates to the lighting. I've decided to get a new rig from ibuypower. Now that it's arrived and I'm all set up, I'm not seeing a vast improvement with ESO. I've got a Radeon R9 290x, 16GB of ram, and I'm installed on an SSD. I am playing the game on ultra-high graphics, but I guess I was expecting to be amazed. I'm only getting about 45 to 65 FPS, and graphics don't seem to render until I get pretty close. For example, King Emeric's clothing doesn't become detailed until I'm very close to him (in Wayrest).

Is this what others experience? Were my expectations too high?

babylon

You might need to tweak things a bit, I have my game working nicely on 75fps-99fps in the open world (mostly sits around the 90+ mark now), 99fps in dungeons, much less in Cyrodiil of course.

I have all settings maxed, and push AA and a few other things through NVidia control panel.

Also use the SET MIP_LOAD_SKIP_LEVELS "-3" trick to push textures to load in at max.

The biggest fps drop for me comes from the distance slider, which is the only thing I don't have maxed in this game.

Audigy

ThePonzzz wrote: »

So, I've been unable to play much since the July updates to the lighting. I've decided to get a new rig from ibuypower. Now that it's arrived and I'm all set up, I'm not seeing a vast improvement with ESO. I've got a Radeon R9 290x, 16GB of ram, and I'm installed on an SSD. I am playing the game on ultra-high graphics, but I guess I was expecting to be amazed. I'm only getting about 45 to 65 FPS, and graphics don't seem to render until I get pretty close. For example, King Emeric's clothing doesn't become detailed until I'm very close to him (in Wayrest).

Is this what others experience? Were my expectations too high?

I play capped on 60 with a 280x and 8 GB Ram on an I5. It only drops in towns and pvp to about 30-35 at times (ultra, full HD - all sliders at maximum)

The most important part in your rig is the CPU and this one you didn't mention yet.

ThePonzzz

babylon wrote: »

You might need to tweak things a bit, I have my game working nicely on 75fps-99fps in the open world (mostly sits around the 90+ mark now), 99fps in dungeons, much less in Cyrodiil of course.

I have all settings maxed, and push AA and a few other things through NVidia control panel.

Also use the SET MIP_LOAD_SKIP_LEVELS "-3" trick to push textures to load in at max.

The biggest fps drop for me comes from the distance slider, which is the only thing I don't have maxed in this game.

Awesome, I'll try that. My distance slider might be maxed, I'll check that. Do you have a good number to set it at, @babylon‌?

Audigy wrote: »

ThePonzzz wrote: »

So, I've been unable to play much since the July updates to the lighting. I've decided to get a new rig from ibuypower. Now that it's arrived and I'm all set up, I'm not seeing a vast improvement with ESO. I've got a Radeon R9 290x, 16GB of ram, and I'm installed on an SSD. I am playing the game on ultra-high graphics, but I guess I was expecting to be amazed. I'm only getting about 45 to 65 FPS, and graphics don't seem to render until I get pretty close. For example, King Emeric's clothing doesn't become detailed until I'm very close to him (in Wayrest).

Is this what others experience? Were my expectations too high?

I play capped on 60 with a 280x and 8 GB Ram on an I5. It only drops in towns and pvp to about 30-35 at times (ultra, full HD - all sliders at maximum)

The most important part in your rig is the CPU and this one you didn't mention yet.

Oops, I knew I forgot something...

i7-5820k @ 3.30 GHz.

babylon

ThePonzzz wrote: »

babylon wrote: »

You might need to tweak things a bit, I have my game working nicely on 75fps-99fps in the open world (mostly sits around the 90+ mark now), 99fps in dungeons, much less in Cyrodiil of course.

I have all settings maxed, and push AA and a few other things through NVidia control panel.

Also use the SET MIP_LOAD_SKIP_LEVELS "-3" trick to push textures to load in at max.

The biggest fps drop for me comes from the distance slider, which is the only thing I don't have maxed in this game.

Awesome, I'll try that. My distance slider might be maxed, I'll check that. Do you have a good number to set it at, @babylon‌?

I think I set mine to around 40 or so (off the top of my head).

RSram

Keep in mind that your display monitor is what will cap the maximum FPS of the game. Usually that is 60 FPS on most Flat screen monitors. Some of the gaming monitors can go as high as 240 FPS, but then the image qualify suffers.

Frame rate also is dependent on the processor you have in your system and the game resolution of the screen. Most games still use only one core of the CPU to do most of the game calculating. GPU calculating is still new to gaming and more complex due to AMD and NVidia having two distinct architectures.

On my custom built system (I think its three years old), I have a second generation I7 Extreme, 24 GB (1333) Dual channel ram, Geforce 680 FX (4096 GB ram), with a Monitor that runs at 60 Hz. Hard drive system consists of two 600 GB Raptors in RAID 0 configuration.

I run the game at 2560 x 1440 with everything turned to the Max settings with the exception of shadow quality which is set to medium. Turning down the shadow quality is the first step in smoothing out the game; its the big performance hitter, and you really don't even notice the difference when playing the game.

I also have the SET MIP_LOAD_SKIP_LEVELS "-3" in my user settings file. But you need to add this to the user settings after each major game update. Note that this setting doesn't really give that much for the performance hit you take by enabling it. This setting is mostly for those who play ESO in the 1st person view as they will see a big difference in texture quality since they see the textures much closer than someone playing in the 3rd person view.

Most experts on the web state that you really only need an I5 Intel machine for gaming, but my friends are always blown away by how smooth my games play compared to their I5 machines. Note that ESO is the exception, in that it can get really jerky at times, but this is due to their server issue, not my computer.

So getting back on track, what type of CPU and monitor are you using?

wolfydog

What was your old computer out of curiosity?

ESO is not a super demaning game as far as new games go and it scales down pretty well. Even playing on medium settings for example, is not a huge drop down from high settings.

For me, the biggest framerate killing in this game is the draw distance. My computer I have an i5 4670k, 8 gig ram gtx760 and can keep draw distance at 75. I generally get a steady 60fps while out questing and in towns can vary from 35-60 in the busier more cluttered towns. (I do have vsync on cause I cant stand the screen tearing.)

My wifes computer only has a i3 and gtx 650, and our graphics basically are the same but she has to keep her draw distance around 40 to keep a more steady framerate, but all our other settings are maxed.

And I think the deal with peoples clothing not loading right away sometimes, is just how the game is right now. I have it happen to me too. I'll be honest though I don't remember it happening on NPC's as much, but definatly other players.

Maverick827

I think your expectations were too high and you're placing too much stock on the little yellow number in the corner of your screen. 99 fps will pretty much be indistinguishable from 65 fps.

Sallington

Whatever you do, get an unlocked ntel i5 or better. Otherwise, it won't matter how powerful your GPU is, since the game is so CPU dependent.

I have an fx-6300 running @ 4.5ghz, and I still drop to 12-15 fps in large pvp battles. That's with a overclocked GTX 970 too.

Xeres14

I've noticed ESO seems to only use one core on the CPU. Also the client is 32 bit I believe.

I just recently upgraded to a GTX 980 and my FPS is about the same as yours but I can crank the settings way up (in game and out) with very little dip in FPS.