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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Please stop trying to control how much people craft.

aklairenb14_ESO
Its very bad you get all the way to the end of a profession to do high teir food and you have to wait and cross your fingers the hireling comes back with oats or tomatos. Everything you need should be found in the game by searching. The search should be within reason. You should not have to spend 3.5 hours looking in barrels and come back with 1 oat and no tomato but a slew of low components. The worst part in high ranking areas and dungeons these items should be plentiful. By doing it the current way it stops people from making coin. I do not have the patience to wait 24 and hope that hireling brings me something back something that I can use. This is how i feel about it. that is why i quit after the 30 day trial and look like after this 30 day is up i'll vanish again. KEEP PEOPLE BUSY DOING WHAT THEY LIKE TO DO!
  • fromtesonlineb16_ESO
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    It's an MMO, ZOS demands players spend vast amounts of time not "playing how they want" to keep the monthly subs. rolling in.

    It's a cynical business model, nothing more.
    Edited by fromtesonlineb16_ESO on September 30, 2014 6:26AM
  • Cogo
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    Its very bad you get all the way to the end of a profession to do high teir food and you have to wait and cross your fingers the hireling comes back with oats or tomatos. Everything you need should be found in the game by searching. The search should be within reason. You should not have to spend 3.5 hours looking in barrels and come back with 1 oat and no tomato but a slew of low components. The worst part in high ranking areas and dungeons these items should be plentiful. By doing it the current way it stops people from making coin. I do not have the patience to wait 24 and hope that hireling brings me something back something that I can use. This is how i feel about it. that is why i quit after the 30 day trial and look like after this 30 day is up i'll vanish again. KEEP PEOPLE BUSY DOING WHAT THEY LIKE TO DO!

    Your first sentience shows you do not know about tradeskills.
    Provision at skill level 50 is NOT the end.
    Unless you allocate all the points, with 2 skill exceptions, you do not master that tradeskill.
    The REAL "end", is to know what mats for what recepie is useful, where to get it, when to use it. And HAVE all the recipies.
    Anyone who makes any food buffs without having all points in make 1 get 4, is not a master.

    ESO never had any 30 days trial. Resellers offered 30 days return on your product if you bought it. Anyone who bought that, with the INTENT to return it....is abusing the service and are THE reason for why resellers stopped with it.

    Just like any product, it was not meant for you to try it and return it, unless it didn't live up to what it was. Which ESO very much did.
    It is a normal garantee some shops offers, as customer service.

    If you did not buy it to abuse that, resellers would still offer this service to buy ESO from amazon with 30 days, money back garantee.

    Zenimax had nothing to do with that.

    ESO tradeskills are fantastic! The best things, just like Oats and Tomatoes are JUST the perfect rarity. You CAN get it, from others who sell em, but they are expensive.

    Because....it's one of the most powerful tools from Provisioning.
    I have about 250 in my bank. Which I got since Launch, Used 2, very stupid, at level 30 something, since I got a purple recipie then. Hmm...June somewhere.
    I learned then, that these 2 mats are the critical ones in cooking, and should be used when you really need that extra buff to do hard encounters.

    Or trade.....

    Tradeskills in ESO is amazing. Because just like becoming a experiened elite Raider, trader, PvPer.......this applies to Trade skills as well!
    Everyone can do it. But if you want to master it....you can, takes time, effort, you wount get all drops at once.
    Trade skills have their own "Hard dungeon", by learning to master it.

    If you want stuff at once, ESO is not designed for that.
    Edited by Cogo on September 30, 2014 7:01AM
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  • fromtesonlineb16_ESO
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    Cogo wrote: »
    Trade skills have their own "Hard dungeon", by learning to master it.
    There is absolutely nothing remotely hard leveling a craft to 50 and capping all skills .. two of my 5 capped crafters are level 20-something and they sure as hell didn't do any hard content to get there they just ran the world and solo delves for Skyshards mainly.

    Edited by fromtesonlineb16_ESO on September 30, 2014 11:30AM
  • AlexDougherty
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    Everything you need should be found in the game by searching. !

    If you mean everything you need should be able to be found by searching, then I agree.
    People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
    Wizard's first rule
    Passion rules reason
    Wizard's third rule
    Mind what people Do, not what they say, for actions betray a lie.
    Wizard's fifth rule
    Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
    Wizard's tenth rule
  • seanolan
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    You should not have to spend 3.5 hours looking in barrels and come back with 1 oat and no tomato but a slew of low components.

    Since I know for a fact you have NEVER found a single oat in a barrel, crate, or any other container, you either still have no idea wth you are talking about or you don't pay any attention to your inventory in the first place.
  • DenverRalphy
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    Not all the top tier recipes require tomatoes or oats. Get a new recipe that doesn't require those ingredients.
  • aklairenb14_ESO
    Cogo wrote: »
    Its very bad you get all the way to the end of a profession to do high teir food and you have to wait and cross your fingers the hireling comes back with oats or tomatos. Everything you need should be found in the game by searching. The search should be within reason. You should not have to spend 3.5 hours looking in barrels and come back with 1 oat and no tomato but a slew of low components. The worst part in high ranking areas and dungeons these items should be plentiful. By doing it the current way it stops people from making coin. I do not have the patience to wait 24 and hope that hireling brings me something back something that I can use. This is how i feel about it. that is why i quit after the 30 day trial and look like after this 30 day is up i'll vanish again. KEEP PEOPLE BUSY DOING WHAT THEY LIKE TO DO!

    Your first sentience shows you do not know about tradeskills.
    Provision at skill level 50 is NOT the end.
    Unless you allocate all the points, with 2 skill exceptions, you do not master that tradeskill.
    The REAL "end", is to know what mats for what recepie is useful, where to get it, when to use it. And HAVE all the recipies.
    Anyone who makes any food buffs without having all points in make 1 get 4, is not a master.

    ESO never had any 30 days trial. Resellers offered 30 days return on your product if you bought it. Anyone who bought that, with the INTENT to return it....is abusing the service and are THE reason for why resellers stopped with it.

    Just like any product, it was not meant for you to try it and return it, unless it didn't live up to what it was. Which ESO very much did.
    It is a normal garantee some shops offers, as customer service.

    If you did not buy it to abuse that, resellers would still offer this service to buy ESO from amazon with 30 days, money back garantee.

    Zenimax had nothing to do with that.

    ESO tradeskills are fantastic! The best things, just like Oats and Tomatoes are JUST the perfect rarity. You CAN get it, from others who sell em, but they are expensive.

    Because....it's one of the most powerful tools from Provisioning.
    I have about 250 in my bank. Which I got since Launch, Used 2, very stupid, at level 30 something, since I got a purple recipie then. Hmm...June somewhere.
    I learned then, that these 2 mats are the critical ones in cooking, and should be used when you really need that extra buff to do hard encounters.

    Or trade.....

    Tradeskills in ESO is amazing. Because just like becoming a experiened elite Raider, trader, PvPer.......this applies to Trade skills as well!
    Everyone can do it. But if you want to master it....you can, takes time, effort, you wount get all drops at once.
    Trade skills have their own "Hard dungeon", by learning to master it.

    If you want stuff at once, ESO is not designed for that.


    LOL there always this type of person out there that tries to say the opposite of what you say just for arguments sake. 1. This is my experience with the game not yours. Then LOL to write like I have no idea how to craft is another thing all together. How to obtain the ingredients is through the hirelings or hoarders. I know that! The finish product is so high people do not buy it. Funny after writing this i start to look through other post and see this topic over and over again.
    My product came with 30 days of game time. Why are you even addressing that! What deal i had is none of you business nor the topic of my discussion. It was mentioned as an example of time of membership.
    If you have a rebuttal because my comment was not a personal address to you, respond like you have some manners. If some is frustrated you show the opposite. Whats the opposite of frustration. Look up the word autocrat while you are at it. I hate that personality type its the worst kind to have, it makes people want to throw you off a bridge. That is the personality you displayed in your comment. Its NOT about YOU is about peoples experiences. You state your experiences and the things you did and leave it at that. Read DenverRaphlys response. That how you respond. A suggestion without the sarcasm.
    Edited by aklairenb14_ESO on September 30, 2014 5:24PM
  • aklairenb14_ESO
    seanolan wrote: »
    You should not have to spend 3.5 hours looking in barrels and come back with 1 oat and no tomato but a slew of low components.

    Since I know for a fact you have NEVER found a single oat in a barrel, crate, or any other container, you either still have no idea wth you are talking about or you don't pay any attention to your inventory in the first place.

    Wow how helpful is that comment....this is what the game is left with bitter people. Does this swipe LOL make you feel better.... that you had to put your 2 cents in....yeah.

  • aklairenb14_ESO
    Everything you need should be found in the game by searching. !

    If you mean everything you need should be able to be found by searching, then I agree.

    If you want to prove your mastery over proper sentence structure to say the same thing, go right ahead. Autocratic the world could use less of them.
  • poodlemasterb16_ESO
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    seanolan wrote: »
    You should not have to spend 3.5 hours looking in barrels and come back with 1 oat and no tomato but a slew of low components.

    Since I know for a fact you have NEVER found a single oat in a barrel, crate, or any other container, you either still have no idea wth you are talking about or you don't pay any attention to your inventory in the first place.

    Wow how helpful is that comment....this is what the game is left with bitter people. Does this swipe LOL make you feel better.... that you had to put your 2 cents in....yeah.

    Ya see anybody at all serious about Provisioning knows what is going on. You do not.

    I will try to be helpful though. I bought 100 mudcrab for 900g and recently 100 honeycomb for about the same.

    The Guild Traders are your friend.
  • KenCleanAirSystem
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    Buy yourself a Consummate Honey Brittle recipe... Never worry about waiting for your hireling to deliver oats or tomatoes again... Profit.
  • aklairenb14_ESO
    Buy yourself a Consummate Honey Brittle recipe... Never worry about waiting for your hireling to deliver oats or tomatoes again... Profit.

    thanks for the info.
  • WarrioroftheWind_ESO
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    This game isn't designed for impatient people. It's meant for you to invest work into it. If you play this game assuming everything will drop into your lap because you want it to, you're destroying the fun of your own game. There are vendors that carry items, and there are items found in barrels. You can buy from players or guild stores, or you can just be very patient and spendthrifty and get things yourself. There are options you just have to explore them.
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