note to AD group leaders

Theoldguy

Let me just start by saying I am not a group leader .mostly solo but do group in Cyrodiil .
This may be a surprise but people sometimes don't read group chat !
I realy struggle to read the orange & the red writing I do try but often miss stuff.
what I and many others do do is follow the crown.
SO there is no point in yelling at people and calling them stupid & puggs for sieging the wrong wall if you are standing there with them.
they are following that pointy thing on your head!

Rant over

ps I do have TS and use it when in guild group.

pps My guild leaders are Awesome.

Draxys

ppps, sounds like you should find a different for when you group

Cody

ignore people like that. let them act like immature idiots. they can charge the hole in the wall and get slaughtered all they want:)

eliisra

Theoldguy wrote: »

This may be a surprise but people sometimes don't read group chat !

This is why I would never lead a pug in Cyrodiil.

People aren't reading group chat, they don't use TS. Still (when they can be bothered to read that is), they expect the leader to be polite, consistently type out instructions, information and answer their questions.

Typing, inviting, asking for crown back after crash, while being nuked with Lethal Arrow and siege is very stressful. People leading public groups in Cyrodiil deserves a reward really. They make PvP fun and meaningful for loads of people. Are they even able to enjoy PvP themselves I wonder?

But of course, you shouldn't be yelled at and called stupid, because you made some other trivial mistake. I mean who the hell haven't sieged the wrong wall at least a dozen times lol?

Theoldguy

I dont expect leaders to stop and type all the time that would get you killed.
all I am trying to say is be aware of the crown on your head & that people are following it so dont yell at them for being where you are.

I do appreciate the work that the good leaders do & they dont get enough thanks for it.

by the way this was in non vet where i am running an alt {you can yell at me all day i couldnt give a rats } but there are a lot of new players there that dont need to be discouraged.

Glantris

why would you even join a group with a leader if you can't take less than ten seconds every now and again to read the instructions your leader probably took more time typing out than it would take to read? being in a group with a bunch of random people you aren't communicating with, with not even a vaguely similar objective sounds completely pointless to me.

leading a pug, even if you half-ass it, is stressful and exhausting. the last thing that poor guy with the crown needs is people who don't even listen. if that was my group and i had people dawdling around when i'm trying to get something done with a group that probably has nothing in the way of cooperation or synergy, i'd just kick you out. calling someone stupid isn't nice, but i can understand it. AD group leaders are probably not the issue here.

in case you didn't know, you can change the size of the text and the colour as well. that's in esc -> settings -> social. you can also resize your ui and chat box, and there are also addons which add a background to your text box so the contrast is better.

krim

You can be in my group but you better be able to survive with 20+ enemies on you.

My only rules are

1. NO FEAR we charge into everything.
2. If you die dont cry just res back up and charge back in.

Bramir

As someone who has joined many PUGs in Cyrodil (and even led a few), the most common mistake PUG leaders make is expecting the entire group to follow complex instructions and/or stack perfectly on the crown. To be honest, stacking perfectly on the crown seems to be more important than getting to an objective for some, and these are the groups I usually leave.

What PUG groups really need from their leader are two things:

1. Objectives. BRK mine for example...the really good PUG leaders will actually coordinate with other groups to obtain an objective that helps the alliance. Instructions for which wall of a keep to siege are also highly useful.

2. Regroup orders. After a wipe, the group needs to know where to regroup, especially if there is no obvious FC to use.

Some PUGs may be able to handle more complicated instructions, but to be honest, if they can handle more complicated instructions, they probably don't need them at all. At least on the EP side, there are a lot of really good players that seem to run solo or in PUGs, and a good PUG can wipe an average zergball out in the open by not grouping on the crown.

Braidas

krim wrote: »

You can be in my group but you better be able to survive with 20+ enemies on you.

My only rules are

1. NO FEAR we charge into everything.
2. If you die dont cry just res back up and charge back in.

hmm I like those rules, and the prerequisite

krim

Im looking for 2-4 strong players. I dont care what your build is but it better withstand 10-20 enemies. Thats the test.

Theoldguy

Glantris wrote: »

why would you even join a group with a leader if you can't take less than ten seconds every now and again to read the instructions your leader probably took more time typing out than it would take to read? being in a group with a bunch of random people you aren't communicating with, with not even a vaguely similar objective sounds completely pointless to me.

leading a pug, even if you half-ass it, is stressful and exhausting. the last thing that poor guy with the crown needs is people who don't even listen. if that was my group and i had people dawdling around when i'm trying to get something done with a group that probably has nothing in the way of cooperation or synergy, i'd just kick you out. calling someone stupid isn't nice, but i can understand it. AD group leaders are probably not the issue here.

in case you didn't know, you can change the size of the text and the colour as well. that's in esc -> settings -> social. you can also resize your ui and chat box, and there are also addons which add a background to your text box so the contrast is better.

Theoldguy

Ten seconds every now & again will miss a lot of stuff but I get your point.

we where getting the job done just not in the wright place.

and no i didnt know that you could change the size & colour thank you for that info.

Rune_Relic

me nord....you walk...nord follow.... my axe biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig

Lfehova

krim wrote: »

Im looking for 2-4 strong players. I dont care what your build is but it better withstand 10-20 enemies. Thats the test.

I have more than 4! Where do we sign up?

Plus we're all dc, so are you rerolling?

krim

Lfehova wrote: »

krim wrote: »

Im looking for 2-4 strong players. I dont care what your build is but it better withstand 10-20 enemies. Thats the test.

I have more than 4! Where do we sign up?

Plus we're all dc, so are you rerolling?

I WISH but i aint lvling my alliance rank again.

Lfehova

krim wrote: »

Lfehova wrote: »

krim wrote: »

Im looking for 2-4 strong players. I dont care what your build is but it better withstand 10-20 enemies. Thats the test.

I have more than 4! Where do we sign up?

Plus we're all dc, so are you rerolling?

I WISH but i aint lvling my alliance rank again.

Alliance rank means nothing, once you get assault rank level 10. I have a level 26 and my new main is level 30. I got assault level 10 after two weeks of playing?

Come hither to the blueside. The force is strong in this one. Stay on targetttt

Huntler

Krim! Don't give in to temptation! That is the path to the darkside

krim

Lfehova wrote: »

krim wrote: »

Lfehova wrote: »

krim wrote: »

Im looking for 2-4 strong players. I dont care what your build is but it better withstand 10-20 enemies. Thats the test.

I have more than 4! Where do we sign up?

Plus we're all dc, so are you rerolling?

I WISH but i aint lvling my alliance rank again.

Alliance rank means nothing, once you get assault rank level 10. I have a level 26 and my new main is level 30. I got assault level 10 after two weeks of playing?

Come hither to the blueside. The force is strong in this one. Stay on targetttt

My play time at the moment isnt as hardcore as it used to be.

Ezareth

krim wrote: »

Lfehova wrote: »

krim wrote: »

Lfehova wrote: »

krim wrote: »

Im looking for 2-4 strong players. I dont care what your build is but it better withstand 10-20 enemies. Thats the test.

I have more than 4! Where do we sign up?

Plus we're all dc, so are you rerolling?

I WISH but i aint lvling my alliance rank again.

Alliance rank means nothing, once you get assault rank level 10. I have a level 26 and my new main is level 30. I got assault level 10 after two weeks of playing?

Come hither to the blueside. The force is strong in this one. Stay on targetttt

My play time at the moment isnt as hardcore as it used to be.

It is hard to justify the playtime we used to put in considering the state of the game these days.

Lfehova

krim wrote: »

Lfehova wrote: »

krim wrote: »

Lfehova wrote: »

krim wrote: »

Im looking for 2-4 strong players. I dont care what your build is but it better withstand 10-20 enemies. Thats the test.

I have more than 4! Where do we sign up?

Plus we're all dc, so are you rerolling?

I WISH but i aint lvling my alliance rank again.

Alliance rank means nothing, once you get assault rank level 10. I have a level 26 and my new main is level 30. I got assault level 10 after two weeks of playing?

Come hither to the blueside. The force is strong in this one. Stay on targetttt

My play time at the moment isnt as hardcore as it used to be.

True, same with a lot of people.

But dc never has a lack of cheese balls to nom or cherries to pop. So it wouldn't take long

Don't you want to be able to force grip a female dog?

krim

Lfehova wrote: »

krim wrote: »

Lfehova wrote: »

krim wrote: »

Lfehova wrote: »

krim wrote: »

Im looking for 2-4 strong players. I dont care what your build is but it better withstand 10-20 enemies. Thats the test.

I have more than 4! Where do we sign up?

Plus we're all dc, so are you rerolling?

I WISH but i aint lvling my alliance rank again.

Alliance rank means nothing, once you get assault rank level 10. I have a level 26 and my new main is level 30. I got assault level 10 after two weeks of playing?

Come hither to the blueside. The force is strong in this one. Stay on targetttt

My play time at the moment isnt as hardcore as it used to be.

True, same with a lot of people.

But dc never has a lack of cheese balls to nom or cherries to pop. So it wouldn't take long

Don't you want to be able to force grip a female dog?

lmao Idk tempting since i hear im loved in DC zone chat. Can we do a welcoming party.

Braidas

krim wrote: »

Lfehova wrote: »

krim wrote: »

Lfehova wrote: »

krim wrote: »

Lfehova wrote: »

krim wrote: »

Im looking for 2-4 strong players. I dont care what your build is but it better withstand 10-20 enemies. Thats the test.

I have more than 4! Where do we sign up?

Plus we're all dc, so are you rerolling?

I WISH but i aint lvling my alliance rank again.

Alliance rank means nothing, once you get assault rank level 10. I have a level 26 and my new main is level 30. I got assault level 10 after two weeks of playing?

Come hither to the blueside. The force is strong in this one. Stay on targetttt

My play time at the moment isnt as hardcore as it used to be.

True, same with a lot of people.

But dc never has a lack of cheese balls to nom or cherries to pop. So it wouldn't take long

Don't you want to be able to force grip a female dog?

lmao Idk tempting since i hear im loved in DC zone chat. Can we do a welcoming party.

BRAIDAS shall spread favorable word throughout the land in preparation of your arrival. Remember, the dark side is the path to to immortality!

Xallus

Braidas wrote: »

krim wrote: »

You can be in my group but you better be able to survive with 20+ enemies on you.

My only rules are

1. NO FEAR we charge into everything.
2. If you die dont cry just res back up and charge back in.

hmm I like those rules, and the prerequisite

What's sad is he's flaunting it, and ZOS doesn't care. The only time they cared was when we posted video's of this amazing player on the day of quakecon. He indeed does not die 1 vs 20, or 40.. unless he chooses to toggle ... err I mean take a bio break.

Darthryan

Well c'mon. If everybody and their mom is hiting one wall and you're hitting the one far from it, u deserve to be yelled at. Pay attention. Its not that hard. Just pay attention and put down the weed pipe.

Braidas

Xallus wrote: »

Braidas wrote: »

krim wrote: »

You can be in my group but you better be able to survive with 20+ enemies on you.

My only rules are

1. NO FEAR we charge into everything.
2. If you die dont cry just res back up and charge back in.

hmm I like those rules, and the prerequisite

What's sad is he's flaunting it, and ZOS doesn't care. The only time they cared was when we posted video's of this amazing player on the day of quakecon. He indeed does not die 1 vs 20, or 40.. unless he chooses to toggle ... err I mean take a bio break.

what? lol

Rylana

Everybody dies.

krim

Xallus wrote: »

Braidas wrote: »

krim wrote: »

You can be in my group but you better be able to survive with 20+ enemies on you.

My only rules are

1. NO FEAR we charge into everything.
2. If you die dont cry just res back up and charge back in.

hmm I like those rules, and the prerequisite

What's sad is he's flaunting it, and ZOS doesn't care. The only time they cared was when we posted video's of this amazing player on the day of quakecon. He indeed does not die 1 vs 20, or 40.. unless he chooses to toggle ... err I mean take a bio break.

Where is this video?

Theoldguy

mriguy1981 wrote: »

Well c'mon. If everybody and their mom is hiting one wall and you're hitting the one far from it, u deserve to be yelled at. Pay attention. Its not that hard. Just pay attention and put down the weed pipe.

What ! Learn to Read every body including the leader was there as i said . doh
learn to read its not that hard.

Rooty

Xallus wrote: »

Braidas wrote: »

krim wrote: »

You can be in my group but you better be able to survive with 20+ enemies on you.

My only rules are

1. NO FEAR we charge into everything.
2. If you die dont cry just res back up and charge back in.

hmm I like those rules, and the prerequisite

What's sad is he's flaunting it, and ZOS doesn't care. The only time they cared was when we posted video's of this amazing player on the day of quakecon. He indeed does not die 1 vs 20, or 40.. unless he chooses to toggle ... err I mean take a bio break.

If I give you a hint, will you give me a cookie?

Sypher

Xallus wrote: »

Braidas wrote: »

krim wrote: »

You can be in my group but you better be able to survive with 20+ enemies on you.

My only rules are

1. NO FEAR we charge into everything.
2. If you die dont cry just res back up and charge back in.

hmm I like those rules, and the prerequisite

What's sad is he's flaunting it, and ZOS doesn't care. The only time they cared was when we posted video's of this amazing player on the day of quakecon. He indeed does not die 1 vs 20, or 40.. unless he chooses to toggle ... err I mean take a bio break.

Krim relies on not so smart players to walk within range of his sap essence and dumb enough to stand inside his veil to build him ult. Just like how I rely on people to shoot projectiles while I have reflect up to build ult.

It really just comes down to how many "not so smart people" you have on your side.

I ran into him today and the DC players there were standing in his veil. So I just sat back and let them die. Then once a few were dead I made a push and almost killed him but the keep guards and other ad players ambushed me.

Luckily for Krim, me, and anyone who relies on the stupidity/ignorance of others to sustain ult/survivability, there always seem to be just enough "pugs" feeding you ult making it harder for the skilled and smarter players.

krim

This is why i just look for the largest zerg possible, and charge up all the way to the back of their lines or meatbags. Smarter groups just run past me now.