Why isn't Nvidia PhysX in ESO??

Ruffcut

This game is the best I've played but I'm confused on who made the decision not to use PhysX. It's strange to me that only Havoc has been implemented when PhysX effect's would put ESO in a league all it's own.

fromtesonlineb16_ESO

Havoc isn't used by ESO, it was only a development tool. Also, what do you think PhysX would do that ESO needs?

AlexDougherty

At a guess, PhysX is sole property of Nvidia corporation, and any game using it would have to give Nvidia a slice of the profits.

Pendrillion

Furthermore how would you translate the effects of nvidia physiX to other clients who don't have it and/or how would it communitcate server side? And imagine the *** if that damned cheese wheel doesn't roll simultaneously with that of your best buddy.

Lag

I'm guessing because Nvidia is not the master race.

Ruffcut

Pendrillion wrote: »

Furthermore how would you translate the effects of nvidia physiX to other clients who don't have it and/or how would it communitcate server side? And imagine the *** if that damned cheese wheel doesn't roll simultaneously with that of your best buddy.

I'm sorry but what you said doesn't make much sense. PhysX works much like any other video setting where it doesn't effect server side at all. I know this because I've ran a server with physX enabled games and the server had no PhysX hardware running but the client's would.

fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

Havoc isn't used by ESO, it was only a development tool. Also, what do you think PhysX would do that ESO needs?

All the Smoke, Water and Lava Effects would be incredible to see for one. Combat and Rag doll effects would have more realism...

But the question still remains, who decided not to use Nvidia PhysX? It was first introduced in Oblivion with the Ageia PhysX Cards. An has been with of them since.

AngryNord

fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

Havoc isn't used by ESO, it was only a development tool. Also, what do you think PhysX would do that ESO needs?

Huh? It does display the Havok logo when starting the game, and IIRC it was specifically said during the beta period, that Havok had been added in order to have collision with NPCs, etc?

AshySamurai

I'm interested too. But seems the most likely cause is that if you want PhysX in your game, you need to pay to Nvidia.

R1ckyDaMan

I would rather have mantle, just saying...

Pendrillion

Ruffcut wrote: »

Pendrillion wrote: »

Furthermore how would you translate the effects of nvidia physiX to other clients who don't have it and/or how would it communitcate server side? And imagine the *** if that damned cheese wheel doesn't roll simultaneously with that of your best buddy.

I'm sorry but what you said doesn't make much sense. PhysX works much like any other video setting where it doesn't effect server side at all. I know this because I've ran a server with physX enabled games and the server had no PhysX hardware running but the client's would.

fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

Havoc isn't used by ESO, it was only a development tool. Also, what do you think PhysX would do that ESO needs?

All the Smoke, Water and Lava Effects would be incredible to see for one. Combat and Rag doll effects would have more realism...

But the question still remains, who decided not to use Nvidia PhysX? It was first introduced in Oblivion with the Ageia PhysX Cards. An has been with of them since.

Okay my bad then. I though those things have to be synched as well. Sorry. I always thought that was a compromise due to Bandwith issues by synchronising all the multiple elements in the game.

NeoXanthus

Ruffcut wrote: »

This game is the best I've played but I'm confused on who made the decision not to use PhysX. It's strange to me that only Havoc has been implemented when PhysX effect's would put ESO in a league all it's own.

I agree with you @Ruffcut. PhysX would make this game perform better. I run a i7-4960x and really can’t believe how much CPU is used when playing. Sending some of that information to a dedicated PhysX board would take additional load off the CPU. However I know there might be some people out there not too happy about feeling they got slighted as they are AMD(ATI) users and not NVidia users. Also don’t really know if NVidia would charge for the development PhysX API or if free advertisement would be enough for said API. It is a great idea however I would like to see it myself. I am currently pre-purchased other titles just because they do support hardware PhysX.

Ruffcut

NeoXanthus wrote: »

However I know there might be some people out there not too happy about feeling they got slighted as they are AMD(ATI) users and not NVidia users. Also don’t really know if NVidia would charge for the development PhysX API or if free advertisement would be enough for said API. It is a great idea however I would like to see it myself. I am currently pre-purchased other titles just because they do support hardware PhysX.

As far as I can tell, Nvidia has a one time small license agreement for developers to use PhyX in their games. I imagine it helps them in return by showing what their hardware is capable of. An as far as ATI user's are concerned. It shouldn't matter to them cause it doesn't change nothing they currently see in game as it is now. Their only gripe would be some of us see the game in a different way because we buy into Nvidia Products.

Kos

Physx is not in ESO because it didn't agree with the lore