Why is the vampire feeding animation so stupid looking....

DragonWitch

I'm not a vampire yet, but I think it looks dumb. I don't want to suck out the blood of my victims from 10 feet away in an ugly funnel. I want to leap at them, tackle them to the ground and tear their throats out.
I would make a poll if I knew how, but I don't. So what would you prefer?

starkerealm

The gorge animation for Werewolves isn't bad... though, just hang out around one of Hircine's Shrines long enough to see someone get bit.

Arsenic_Touch

starkerealm wrote: »

The gorge animation for Werewolves isn't bad... though, just hang out around one of Hircine's Shrines long enough to see someone get bit.

Up until you find a werewolf gnawing on someone's rear end because that's the way they were facing.

Merlin13KAGL

If it was just the outstretched arm performing the drain, it wouldn't be so bad. Similar to Absorb spells from previous TES.

But the "come-hither / bring it in" motion along with the levitate/wriggle factor that comes along with it kills it.

Gotta love how catching someone completely off guard and literally stealing some life from them somehow does no damage, either.

Aoife32001

haha yeah... I never intend to become a vampire, but the 10 foot blood funnel and outstretched arms look absolutely ridiculous.

I understand they want some range to it, but it needs to involve tricking/compelling the target to come closer and then biting from melee range or something.

BBSooner

I hate the blood fountain. Should have made it a teleport strike like the nightblade and an actual bite animation. Could have restricted it to the same range as the current feed. But instead, it's an awkward looking blood tornado.

GoatKnuckle

Why would you want to feed anyway? Stage 4 it all the way.

AlexDougherty

DragonWitch wrote: »

I'm not a vampire yet, but I think it looks dumb. I don't want to suck out the blood of my victims from 10 feet away in an ugly funnel. I want to leap at them, tackle them to the ground and tear their throats out.
I would make a poll if I knew how, but I don't. So what would you prefer?

There is an arrow next to the new discussion box, click on it and select "New Poll"

But why would Vampires feed like that, it gives no possibility of creating new Vampires, just corpses. (Vampires in this game are technically not undead, just diseased).

By feeding by biting, there is a chance of passing the disease along, furthering the vampire cause.

smeeprocketnub19_ESO

Arsenic_Touch wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

The gorge animation for Werewolves isn't bad... though, just hang out around one of Hircine's Shrines long enough to see someone get bit.

Up until you find a werewolf gnawing on someone's rear end because that's the way they were facing.

Hey round steak is perfectly good meat, mister!

BBSooner

AlexDougherty wrote: »

DragonWitch wrote: »

I'm not a vampire yet, but I think it looks dumb. I don't want to suck out the blood of my victims from 10 feet away in an ugly funnel. I want to leap at them, tackle them to the ground and tear their throats out.
I would make a poll if I knew how, but I don't. So what would you prefer?

There is an arrow next to the new discussion box, click on it and select "New Poll"

But why would Vampires feed like that, it gives no possibility of creating new Vampires, just corpses. (Vampires in this game are technically not undead, just diseased).

By feeding by biting, there is a chance of passing the disease along, furthering the vampire cause.

I think they are considered undead, Skyrim's dawnbreaker enchantment (destroy or fear undead) works on vampires.

Tapio75

Agreed, everytime i feed it just looks terrible.. Im sure that the animation could moderately easily be done to connect with victim.

The current one looks just like something thats temporarily made for beta testing.

I think that feeding should also do damage, just getting 1 phase out of vampirism feels stupid as do the fact that draining few liters of blood does not weaken tyhe victim

Failed feeds should also be possible, victims running away, screaming.. That would be fun!

GoatKnuckle

(Vampires in this game are technically not undead, just diseased)

They're undead. Fighter's Guild skills affect them and werewolves as well if you use that passive.

OrangeTheCat

"Why is the vampire feeding animation so stupid looking...."

Because clearly the game designers failed to consult with you prior to designing this aspect of the game. Shame on them.

Aoife32001

GoatKnuckle wrote: »

(Vampires in this game are technically not undead, just diseased)

They're undead. Fighter's Guild skills affect them and werewolves as well if you use that passive.

That's not necessarily a good indication (ESO isn't exactly faithful to lore). One would have to look at the lore books and in-game discussions from the off-line ES games to determine this. Vampirism is clearly a disease, and it can be cured, which would seem to imply they are not, actually, undead (you can't cure undeath, one would think?) Be that as it may, they may actually be undead in the lore. Like I said, you'd have to consult the lore, rather than the way ESO skills work.

BBSooner

Aoife32001 wrote: »

GoatKnuckle wrote: »

(Vampires in this game are technically not undead, just diseased)

They're undead. Fighter's Guild skills affect them and werewolves as well if you use that passive.

That's not necessarily a good indication (ESO isn't exactly faithful to lore).

ESO is actually pretty faithful to the lore, and has pretty good explanations for outliers.

AlexDougherty

BBSooner wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

DragonWitch wrote: »

I'm not a vampire yet, but I think it looks dumb. I don't want to suck out the blood of my victims from 10 feet away in an ugly funnel. I want to leap at them, tackle them to the ground and tear their throats out.
I would make a poll if I knew how, but I don't. So what would you prefer?

There is an arrow next to the new discussion box, click on it and select "New Poll"

But why would Vampires feed like that, it gives no possibility of creating new Vampires, just corpses. (Vampires in this game are technically not undead, just diseased).

By feeding by biting, there is a chance of passing the disease along, furthering the vampire cause.

I think they are considered undead, Skyrim's dawnbreaker enchantment (destroy or fear undead) works on vampires.

GoatKnuckle wrote: »

(Vampires in this game are technically not undead, just diseased)

They're undead. Fighter's Guild skills affect them and werewolves as well if you use that passive.

I was speaking from a Lore perspective, according to the lore it's a disease, and they are still alive, but changed.

From a game mechanic perspective they are treated as undead, and effects that damage undead affect them too.

But technically speaking they are not undead.

BBSooner

AlexDougherty wrote: »

BBSooner wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

DragonWitch wrote: »

I'm not a vampire yet, but I think it looks dumb. I don't want to suck out the blood of my victims from 10 feet away in an ugly funnel. I want to leap at them, tackle them to the ground and tear their throats out.
I would make a poll if I knew how, but I don't. So what would you prefer?

There is an arrow next to the new discussion box, click on it and select "New Poll"

But why would Vampires feed like that, it gives no possibility of creating new Vampires, just corpses. (Vampires in this game are technically not undead, just diseased).

By feeding by biting, there is a chance of passing the disease along, furthering the vampire cause.

I think they are considered undead, Skyrim's dawnbreaker enchantment (destroy or fear undead) works on vampires.

GoatKnuckle wrote: »

(Vampires in this game are technically not undead, just diseased)

They're undead. Fighter's Guild skills affect them and werewolves as well if you use that passive.

I was speaking from a Lore perspective, according to the lore it's a disease, and they are still alive, but changed.

From a game mechanic perspective they are treated as undead, and effects that damage undead affect them too.

But technically speaking they are not undead.

Since the disease had divine origins, could it not transcend the person's body between life and undeath? Especially since the disease culminates in vampirism, as opposed to vampirism being the disease itself. It's this reason that even the game mechanics in the entire series consider vampires undead ... because they are.

Edit: it should also be noted that the "cure" requires a ritual, or alchemical divisions that we aren't privy to in the case of Oblivion (or in ESO's case a divine blessing).

WraithAzraiel

I don't know, I kind of like it. It's a tip of the hat to the Legacy of Kain series in my opinion. Though I think it would be pretty cool to have a more physical feeding animation I'm sure it's hell to code. Even in Skyrim, if you weren't in the right place you'd end up biting their elbow or their face if they weren't sleeping.

And since I've yet to come across any sleeping NPCs in ESO, that takes out that option.

GoatKnuckle

AlexDougherty wrote: »

BBSooner wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

DragonWitch wrote: »

I'm not a vampire yet, but I think it looks dumb. I don't want to suck out the blood of my victims from 10 feet away in an ugly funnel. I want to leap at them, tackle them to the ground and tear their throats out.
I would make a poll if I knew how, but I don't. So what would you prefer?

There is an arrow next to the new discussion box, click on it and select "New Poll"

But why would Vampires feed like that, it gives no possibility of creating new Vampires, just corpses. (Vampires in this game are technically not undead, just diseased).

By feeding by biting, there is a chance of passing the disease along, furthering the vampire cause.

I think they are considered undead, Skyrim's dawnbreaker enchantment (destroy or fear undead) works on vampires.

GoatKnuckle wrote: »

(Vampires in this game are technically not undead, just diseased)

They're undead. Fighter's Guild skills affect them and werewolves as well if you use that passive.

I was speaking from a Lore perspective, according to the lore it's a disease, and they are still alive, but changed.

From a game mechanic perspective they are treated as undead, and effects that damage undead affect them too.

But technically speaking they are not undead.

Gotcha. I'm definitely the wrong person for matters pertaining to lore, so I shall bow out as gracefully as a Goat can.

AlexDougherty

BBSooner wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

BBSooner wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

DragonWitch wrote: »

I'm not a vampire yet, but I think it looks dumb. I don't want to suck out the blood of my victims from 10 feet away in an ugly funnel. I want to leap at them, tackle them to the ground and tear their throats out.
I would make a poll if I knew how, but I don't. So what would you prefer?

There is an arrow next to the new discussion box, click on it and select "New Poll"

But why would Vampires feed like that, it gives no possibility of creating new Vampires, just corpses. (Vampires in this game are technically not undead, just diseased).

By feeding by biting, there is a chance of passing the disease along, furthering the vampire cause.

I think they are considered undead, Skyrim's dawnbreaker enchantment (destroy or fear undead) works on vampires.

GoatKnuckle wrote: »

(Vampires in this game are technically not undead, just diseased)

They're undead. Fighter's Guild skills affect them and werewolves as well if you use that passive.

I was speaking from a Lore perspective, according to the lore it's a disease, and they are still alive, but changed.

From a game mechanic perspective they are treated as undead, and effects that damage undead affect them too.

But technically speaking they are not undead.

Since the disease had divine origins, could it not transcend the person's body between life and undeath? Especially since the disease culminates in vampirism, as opposed to vampirism being the disease itself. It's this reason that even the game mechanics in the entire series consider vampires undead ... because they are.

Well there is some ambiguity about it, with some sources saying they are undead, and some saying they are alive but changed.

But I personally I take the view that it's essentially a cross between a disease and a curse, and that they have to be alive to have it.

AlexDougherty

GoatKnuckle wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

BBSooner wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

DragonWitch wrote: »

I'm not a vampire yet, but I think it looks dumb. I don't want to suck out the blood of my victims from 10 feet away in an ugly funnel. I want to leap at them, tackle them to the ground and tear their throats out.
I would make a poll if I knew how, but I don't. So what would you prefer?

There is an arrow next to the new discussion box, click on it and select "New Poll"

But why would Vampires feed like that, it gives no possibility of creating new Vampires, just corpses. (Vampires in this game are technically not undead, just diseased).

By feeding by biting, there is a chance of passing the disease along, furthering the vampire cause.

I think they are considered undead, Skyrim's dawnbreaker enchantment (destroy or fear undead) works on vampires.

GoatKnuckle wrote: »

(Vampires in this game are technically not undead, just diseased)

They're undead. Fighter's Guild skills affect them and werewolves as well if you use that passive.

I was speaking from a Lore perspective, according to the lore it's a disease, and they are still alive, but changed.

From a game mechanic perspective they are treated as undead, and effects that damage undead affect them too.

But technically speaking they are not undead.

Gotcha. I'm definitely the wrong person for matters pertaining to lore, so I shall bow out as gracefully as a Goat can.

Fair enough, mind you it's always possible that I'm wrong.

BBSooner

AlexDougherty wrote: »

BBSooner wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

BBSooner wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

DragonWitch wrote: »

I'm not a vampire yet, but I think it looks dumb. I don't want to suck out the blood of my victims from 10 feet away in an ugly funnel. I want to leap at them, tackle them to the ground and tear their throats out.
I would make a poll if I knew how, but I don't. So what would you prefer?

There is an arrow next to the new discussion box, click on it and select "New Poll"

But why would Vampires feed like that, it gives no possibility of creating new Vampires, just corpses. (Vampires in this game are technically not undead, just diseased).

By feeding by biting, there is a chance of passing the disease along, furthering the vampire cause.

I think they are considered undead, Skyrim's dawnbreaker enchantment (destroy or fear undead) works on vampires.

GoatKnuckle wrote: »

(Vampires in this game are technically not undead, just diseased)

They're undead. Fighter's Guild skills affect them and werewolves as well if you use that passive.

I was speaking from a Lore perspective, according to the lore it's a disease, and they are still alive, but changed.

From a game mechanic perspective they are treated as undead, and effects that damage undead affect them too.

But technically speaking they are not undead.

Since the disease had divine origins, could it not transcend the person's body between life and undeath? Especially since the disease culminates in vampirism, as opposed to vampirism being the disease itself. It's this reason that even the game mechanics in the entire series consider vampires undead ... because they are.

Well there is some ambiguity about it, with some sources saying they are undead, and some saying they are alive but changed.

But I personally I take the view that it's essentially a cross between a disease and a curse, and that they have to be alive to have it.

I suppose it's open to interpretation. However when spells/enchantments/lore based weapons designed to slay undead work against them I'm more inclined to think that a divine disease doesn't have to play by the rules of mundane diseases.

Chuggernaut

They should add a few new animations for feeding, and maybe they should be linked to your vampire stage, so when you're at one you'd get the funnel, but the hungrier you get the more brutal the feed. Like maybe at stage 4 you tackle the enemy and feed from the neck.

AlexDougherty

BBSooner wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

BBSooner wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

BBSooner wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

DragonWitch wrote: »

I'm not a vampire yet, but I think it looks dumb. I don't want to suck out the blood of my victims from 10 feet away in an ugly funnel. I want to leap at them, tackle them to the ground and tear their throats out.
I would make a poll if I knew how, but I don't. So what would you prefer?

There is an arrow next to the new discussion box, click on it and select "New Poll"

But why would Vampires feed like that, it gives no possibility of creating new Vampires, just corpses. (Vampires in this game are technically not undead, just diseased).

By feeding by biting, there is a chance of passing the disease along, furthering the vampire cause.

I think they are considered undead, Skyrim's dawnbreaker enchantment (destroy or fear undead) works on vampires.

GoatKnuckle wrote: »

(Vampires in this game are technically not undead, just diseased)

They're undead. Fighter's Guild skills affect them and werewolves as well if you use that passive.

I was speaking from a Lore perspective, according to the lore it's a disease, and they are still alive, but changed.

From a game mechanic perspective they are treated as undead, and effects that damage undead affect them too.

But technically speaking they are not undead.

Since the disease had divine origins, could it not transcend the person's body between life and undeath? Especially since the disease culminates in vampirism, as opposed to vampirism being the disease itself. It's this reason that even the game mechanics in the entire series consider vampires undead ... because they are.

Well there is some ambiguity about it, with some sources saying they are undead, and some saying they are alive but changed.

But I personally I take the view that it's essentially a cross between a disease and a curse, and that they have to be alive to have it.

I suppose it's open to interpretation. However when spells/enchantments/lore based weapons designed to slay undead work against them I'm more inclined to think that a divine disease doesn't have to play by the rules of mundane diseases.

Fair enough, I'll have to disagree, but I can respect your viewpoint.

BBSooner

AlexDougherty wrote: »

BBSooner wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

BBSooner wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

BBSooner wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

DragonWitch wrote: »

I'm not a vampire yet, but I think it looks dumb. I don't want to suck out the blood of my victims from 10 feet away in an ugly funnel. I want to leap at them, tackle them to the ground and tear their throats out.
I would make a poll if I knew how, but I don't. So what would you prefer?

There is an arrow next to the new discussion box, click on it and select "New Poll"

But why would Vampires feed like that, it gives no possibility of creating new Vampires, just corpses. (Vampires in this game are technically not undead, just diseased).

By feeding by biting, there is a chance of passing the disease along, furthering the vampire cause.

I think they are considered undead, Skyrim's dawnbreaker enchantment (destroy or fear undead) works on vampires.

GoatKnuckle wrote: »

(Vampires in this game are technically not undead, just diseased)

They're undead. Fighter's Guild skills affect them and werewolves as well if you use that passive.

I was speaking from a Lore perspective, according to the lore it's a disease, and they are still alive, but changed.

From a game mechanic perspective they are treated as undead, and effects that damage undead affect them too.

But technically speaking they are not undead.

Since the disease had divine origins, could it not transcend the person's body between life and undeath? Especially since the disease culminates in vampirism, as opposed to vampirism being the disease itself. It's this reason that even the game mechanics in the entire series consider vampires undead ... because they are.

Well there is some ambiguity about it, with some sources saying they are undead, and some saying they are alive but changed.

But I personally I take the view that it's essentially a cross between a disease and a curse, and that they have to be alive to have it.

I suppose it's open to interpretation. However when spells/enchantments/lore based weapons designed to slay undead work against them I'm more inclined to think that a divine disease doesn't have to play by the rules of mundane diseases.

Fair enough, I'll have to disagree, but I can respect your viewpoint.

Agreed!

DragonWitch

OrangeTheCat wrote: »

"Why is the vampire feeding animation so stupid looking...."

Because clearly the game designers failed to consult with you prior to designing this aspect of the game. Shame on them.

haha, alright, my title doesn't sound like it should, but I do think it is pretty silly...

Kitsy

I completly agree with OP. When i want to suck blood from my enemies, i want to stick my teeth in them and suck it out like a vampire should.
Magicaly transfering their blood out of their body and into my mouth just looks lame and does not give you any feel of beeing a vampire. So yeah, i hope they change the visual of this ability.

WraithAzraiel

Chances are, they're not going to. But it's pretty clear what happened with it's inception.

One of the people that worked on vampires was clearly a Legacy of Kain fan.

Thatusernameistaken

How do you guys see this animation and defend this game as being teh awesome sauce? lol

DragonWitch

Thatusernameistaken wrote: »

How do you guys see this animation and defend this game as being teh awesome sauce? lol

because this game is so much more than this animation.

Elf_Boy

AlexDougherty wrote: »

BBSooner wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

DragonWitch wrote: »

I'm not a vampire yet, but I think it looks dumb. I don't want to suck out the blood of my victims from 10 feet away in an ugly funnel. I want to leap at them, tackle them to the ground and tear their throats out.
I would make a poll if I knew how, but I don't. So what would you prefer?

There is an arrow next to the new discussion box, click on it and select "New Poll"

But why would Vampires feed like that, it gives no possibility of creating new Vampires, just corpses. (Vampires in this game are technically not undead, just diseased).

By feeding by biting, there is a chance of passing the disease along, furthering the vampire cause.

I think they are considered undead, Skyrim's dawnbreaker enchantment (destroy or fear undead) works on vampires.

GoatKnuckle wrote: »

(Vampires in this game are technically not undead, just diseased)

They're undead. Fighter's Guild skills affect them and werewolves as well if you use that passive.

I was speaking from a Lore perspective, according to the lore it's a disease, and they are still alive, but changed.

From a game mechanic perspective they are treated as undead, and effects that damage undead affect them too.

But technically speaking they are not undead.

During the process one gets exsanguinated. That is not something one survives -- not alive anyways.

Being started/caused by a disease does not make it exclusive with also being undeath.

Never can tell with those magical/curse type infections.