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Resto nerf finally!

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c0rp
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Cycle of life no longer increases damage.
Force weapon swap to have priority over EVERYTHING. Close enough.
Make stamina builds even with magicka builds.
Disable abilities while holding block.
Give us a REASON to do dungeons more than once.
Remove PVP AoE CAP. It is ruining Cyrodiil.
Fix/Remove Forward Camps. They are ruining Cyrodiil.
Impenetrability needs to REDUCE CRIT DAMAGE. Not negate entire builds.
Werewolf is not equal to Vamps/Bats.
  • timidobserver
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    So all the people that use a resto staff for dps will just use a destro staff.
    Edited by timidobserver on September 22, 2014 1:59PM
    V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
    V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
    V16 Redacted Ep Stam Sorc
    V16 Insolent EP Magicka Sorc(retired)
    V16 Jed I Nyte EP Stamina NB(retired)

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  • c0rp
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    timidobserver wrote: »
    So all the people that use a resto staff for dps will just use a destro staff.

    Magicka builds no longer have a "free dps boost" over stamina. This narrows the gap even more between magicka and stamina.

    Force weapon swap to have priority over EVERYTHING. Close enough.
    Make stamina builds even with magicka builds.
    Disable abilities while holding block.
    Give us a REASON to do dungeons more than once.
    Remove PVP AoE CAP. It is ruining Cyrodiil.
    Fix/Remove Forward Camps. They are ruining Cyrodiil.
    Impenetrability needs to REDUCE CRIT DAMAGE. Not negate entire builds.
    Werewolf is not equal to Vamps/Bats.
  • TheBull
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    timidobserver wrote: »
    So all the people that use a resto staff for dps will just use a destro staff.
    As it should be. Awesome changes.
    Killed by Sunshine 1vX How I see it.
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  • SpAEkus
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    I kinda felt weird using it for that purpose anyway.

    And why did they remove the final "Bonk" sound when you killed a target after your staff lost all its charges.

    That Bonk sound kill was as funny as the way Gargoyles used to do back flips when you killed them in Diablo I.
  • c0rp
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    TheBull wrote: »
    timidobserver wrote: »
    So all the people that use a resto staff for dps will just use a destro staff.
    As it should be. Awesome changes.

    God forbid right?

    Force weapon swap to have priority over EVERYTHING. Close enough.
    Make stamina builds even with magicka builds.
    Disable abilities while holding block.
    Give us a REASON to do dungeons more than once.
    Remove PVP AoE CAP. It is ruining Cyrodiil.
    Fix/Remove Forward Camps. They are ruining Cyrodiil.
    Impenetrability needs to REDUCE CRIT DAMAGE. Not negate entire builds.
    Werewolf is not equal to Vamps/Bats.
  • MorHawk
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    Excellent news.
    Observant wrote: »
    I can count to potato.
    Hypertionb14_ESO wrote: »
    another topic that cant see past its own farts.
    WWJLHD?
  • Kego
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    Awesome changes in 1.4.4

    - Stamina Regen on Heavy Attacks with 2Handers, 1Hand+Schild, Bows and Two Weapons
    - Magicka Regen on Heavy Attacks with Restoration Staff and Destruction Staff
    - Circle of Life changed from Bonus DMG to Bonus Magicka Regen.
    - Medium Armor Buff from 14% Skill Reduction up to 21%.
  • dennissomb16_ESO
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    tool tip in game for resto still says + to damage under cycle of life
  • TheBull
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    dennissomb16_ESO wrote: »
    tool tip in game for resto still says + to damage under cycle of life
    lmao I was about to post the same thing. RESTRO BUFF! smh lol.

    10% dmg and 30% more mana regain.
    Edited by TheBull on September 22, 2014 2:12PM
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  • c0rp
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    dennissomb16_ESO wrote: »
    tool tip in game for resto still says + to damage under cycle of life

    Imagine that lmao...

    Force weapon swap to have priority over EVERYTHING. Close enough.
    Make stamina builds even with magicka builds.
    Disable abilities while holding block.
    Give us a REASON to do dungeons more than once.
    Remove PVP AoE CAP. It is ruining Cyrodiil.
    Fix/Remove Forward Camps. They are ruining Cyrodiil.
    Impenetrability needs to REDUCE CRIT DAMAGE. Not negate entire builds.
    Werewolf is not equal to Vamps/Bats.
  • c0rp
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    Someone needs to test if the +damage is still actually being added..
    Force weapon swap to have priority over EVERYTHING. Close enough.
    Make stamina builds even with magicka builds.
    Disable abilities while holding block.
    Give us a REASON to do dungeons more than once.
    Remove PVP AoE CAP. It is ruining Cyrodiil.
    Fix/Remove Forward Camps. They are ruining Cyrodiil.
    Impenetrability needs to REDUCE CRIT DAMAGE. Not negate entire builds.
    Werewolf is not equal to Vamps/Bats.
  • TheBull
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    Confirmed. The 10% dmg on cycle of life is still there.
    @ZOS_GinaBruno‌ thank you for your hard work!

    Edited by TheBull on September 22, 2014 2:16PM
    Killed by Sunshine 1vX How I see it.
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  • timidobserver
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    c0rp wrote: »
    timidobserver wrote: »
    So all the people that use a resto staff for dps will just use a destro staff.

    Magicka builds no longer have a "free dps boost" over stamina. This narrows the gap even more between magicka and stamina.
    If I were a stamina user I would want to be brought up to the level of of magicka rather than having magicka dragged down to my level.

    V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
    V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
    V16 Redacted Ep Stam Sorc
    V16 Insolent EP Magicka Sorc(retired)
    V16 Jed I Nyte EP Stamina NB(retired)

  • sean.plackerb14_ESO
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    LOL that is just to funny.

    Either the patch notes are wrong, or the change was implemented incorrectly.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno‌ ?
    Edited by sean.plackerb14_ESO on September 22, 2014 2:19PM
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  • Gorthax
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    now where is the heavy armor love!
  • c0rp
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    Are you *** kidding me? They release patch notes with the best change Ive seen in 6 months...and its not even true? They *** BUFFED RESTO? WOW...I just dont even...
    Force weapon swap to have priority over EVERYTHING. Close enough.
    Make stamina builds even with magicka builds.
    Disable abilities while holding block.
    Give us a REASON to do dungeons more than once.
    Remove PVP AoE CAP. It is ruining Cyrodiil.
    Fix/Remove Forward Camps. They are ruining Cyrodiil.
    Impenetrability needs to REDUCE CRIT DAMAGE. Not negate entire builds.
    Werewolf is not equal to Vamps/Bats.
  • Kego
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    timidobserver wrote: »
    c0rp wrote: »
    timidobserver wrote: »
    So all the people that use a resto staff for dps will just use a destro staff.

    Magicka builds no longer have a "free dps boost" over stamina. This narrows the gap even more between magicka and stamina.
    If I were a stamina user I would want to be brought up to the level of of magicka rather than having magicka dragged down to my level.

    I think the DMG is already high enough in this game. There for, I wouldn't have a problem if Magicka DMG loses ~200DPS overall in sustained DPS.

    Now after all the Stamina love. It is time for some Nerfs to Bow Stealth DMG. Can't be that it is way higher than Melee Stealth DMG. Cause you know, Risk vs. Reward. (It think thats the case why Magic Nukes don't get Stealth DMG)
  • smeeprocketnub19_ESO
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    hmm I didn't read it as a nerf in the first place.

    edit: oh thar it is. Well what do you know.
    Edited by smeeprocketnub19_ESO on September 22, 2014 2:24PM
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  • Bulldog1205
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    Gorthax wrote: »
    now where is the heavy armor love!

    Hopefully soon. I think one help would be to fix the armor/spell penetration mechanics. That, combined with an increase in stamina DPS builds, would make armor much more important.
  • timidobserver
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    c0rp wrote: »
    Are you *** kidding me? They release patch notes with the best change Ive seen in 6 months...and its not even true? They *** BUFFED RESTO? WOW...I just dont even...

    The patch notes reflect their intent. If this is more than a incorrect tooltip it will be fixed soon.
    V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
    V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
    V16 Redacted Ep Stam Sorc
    V16 Insolent EP Magicka Sorc(retired)
    V16 Jed I Nyte EP Stamina NB(retired)

  • c0rp
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    timidobserver wrote: »
    c0rp wrote: »
    Are you *** kidding me? They release patch notes with the best change Ive seen in 6 months...and its not even true? They *** BUFFED RESTO? WOW...I just dont even...

    The patch notes reflect their intent. If this is more than a incorrect tooltip it will be fixed soon.

    Yeah, thats what I hope for...but knowing ZoS Im not betting on it.

    Force weapon swap to have priority over EVERYTHING. Close enough.
    Make stamina builds even with magicka builds.
    Disable abilities while holding block.
    Give us a REASON to do dungeons more than once.
    Remove PVP AoE CAP. It is ruining Cyrodiil.
    Fix/Remove Forward Camps. They are ruining Cyrodiil.
    Impenetrability needs to REDUCE CRIT DAMAGE. Not negate entire builds.
    Werewolf is not equal to Vamps/Bats.
  • kitsinni
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    While now getting even more Magicka back from the resto staff and destro staff how gives back magicka on heavy attacks which you can shorten the time of. So expect way more impulse zergs and way more destro staves. They didn't change anything that will make a serious difference they just lowered a lot of people's DPS.

    I'm glad changes like this are tested a lot before being put Live! That eliminates issues on patch day!
  • smeeprocketnub19_ESO
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    Man when this is working I am probably going to hit the hardcap on magicka recovery, If only I could funnel some of that into health.
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  • Tamanous
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    timidobserver wrote: »
    So all the people that use a resto staff for dps will just use a destro staff.

    That would be the point wouldn't it?

    Caster builds using Resto staff as an offensive choice was the issue. Destruction staff IS an offensive choice and should be the offensive choice.

    This flat out nerfs my shadow mage (or blood mage ... whatever people want to call it) nightblade but I am ok with it as it makes sense. Holding a resto staff that is meant to heal shouldn't be my offensive choice over destruction staff. When I hold a d staff I actually get weaker. That is simply bad game design.

    About this patch: Shadow Cloak still fails if an enemy is casting a channel on you. Just happened in game.

    Edited by Tamanous on September 22, 2014 3:08PM
  • twev
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    The way I play, my resto didn't need a nerf.
    I was the nerf.
    The problem with society these days is that no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.
  • smeeprocketnub19_ESO
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    twev wrote: »
    The way I play, my resto didn't need a nerf.
    I was the nerf.

    here here, making good weapons fail master race reporting in!
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  • AngryNord
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    Now make heavy armour + two-handed weapon a viable build and this is gonna start looking good.
  • Vuron
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    timidobserver wrote: »
    c0rp wrote: »
    timidobserver wrote: »
    So all the people that use a resto staff for dps will just use a destro staff.

    Magicka builds no longer have a "free dps boost" over stamina. This narrows the gap even more between magicka and stamina.
    If I were a stamina user I would want to be brought up to the level of of magicka rather than having magicka dragged down to my level.

    If I were a stamina user, I'd probably have realized by now that the game was never designed for full stamina builds and adapted. The game pretty much tells you by level 6 that it is based on Magicka. Nothing like trying to fight a square peg into a round hole.
  • sean.plackerb14_ESO
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    They are looking into it now.

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/comment/1283649/#Comment_1283649
    @sean8102 - Carlore - Daggerfall Covenant
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