How come i stack Magic buffs but no night silence ???

Nihil

MornaBaine wrote: »

Nihil wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

Nihil wrote: »

I will just post a question here, for all those who like the stacking of the set, how would you feel if everyone was using it for purposes that was proposed on this forum. Switching to it to travel long distance in stealth then switching out when you get to your destination? Wouldn't this cause a large hindrance for all the stealth attackers, as their will be drastically less visible targets to attack with stealth?

It's known as guerrilla warfare and is a time honored tactic. Used to be both sides of an army would dress up in colorful uniforms and go face off on an open field and just shoot each other. Then somebody got smart and said, "Screw THAT BS!" and started taking shots with their longer ranged squirrely rifles from the cover of the woods. Having to deal with stealthers is just part of combat. Just like those uber-stealthy vamps have to deal with being burned to ash in a matter of mere moments when they ARE caught.

As to switching gear when you get closer to the battle, well you have to let that gear take up space in your inventory AND you have to take the time to switch out at least 5 pieces as a rule. That is plenty of time for someone to catch you, wreck you, and send you back to the rez. I honestly don't see it as a big deal. BUT if ya'll cry about it hard enough I suppose ZoS could put a restriction on Cyrodil that, once you enter the zone, you are in the armor you're in and you can't change it anywhere but your area's stronghold or forward camp.

In pvp gear space isn't all that important, and with addons switching gear is fast, as long as you are out of combat. My comment wasn't about people going into combat, but more using it to get from base to base actually. There were people using the set just to get from one location to the next and avoid conflict on the road. If this got to be a big thing, it would mean very few people for stealth attackers to pick off on the road. I would be most concerned with the side affects this would have on cyrodil not as much as the benefits gained from the increased speed.

Like I said in an earlier post, I think they could of fixed the problem differently ( maybe make it like fiords set for stealth, reduction of sneak cost and a smaller increase in sneak movement), but looking at the longevity of cyrodil I could see this having drastic problems.

The thing is, as a percentage of the PvPing population overall, vamps using Night's Silence was not all that huge. And for the ability to travel stealthed they sacrificed a great deal of combat utility. I've been out PvPing in Cyrodil and doing the stealthy travel and I can tell you that I still saw a LOT of people on the roads and traveling through the woods and other areas. All the crying and moaning is due to the fact that some of the easiest players to kill are (or WERE) some of the most difficult players to find. But I also frequently get spotted out...and guess what happens then? That's right, my speed breaks! So the idea that this set was going to have a huge negative impact on Cyrodil and ruin it? Completely ludicrous! And this is why those of us who enjoy PvP but are primarily here to PLAY THE GAME end up hating and despising PvP and PvPers... because they are CONSTANTLY wrecking gameplay as they look for the next exploit and new ways they can "get over" on other players because gods forbid they be denied any opportunity to pwn noobs. These people are the DEATH of game after game.

People will always find the way of least resistance, it is a sad but it is the truth. Sadly it normally leads to abusing of mechanics and game companies needing to adjust accordingly.

I personally can't speak for the exact reason why Zenimax did this, but I am trying to put another possible explanation out for people to think about. There might of not been a lot doing it yet, but as time goes by more and more people might pick it up. My idea isn't completely ludicrous, it is a possible out come that looking at how player jump on bandwagons, could of happened. If Zenimax did nerf the set just due to complaints then I am annoyed too, most of the populous never rationally think about all aspects of balance and the advice need to be taken only after much consideration.

Probitas

I was using Nights Silence on my NB and discovered it wasn't worth the trade offs as it only worked out of combat. Not missing it much. Back to Ashen Grip/Death Wind. Seems to work well even at lvl 46. And no, haven't even attempted to do any PVP. Just not my thing. I want to have fun, and having to deal with nerfs all the time is bad enough with PVE.

MornaBaine

OrangeTheCat wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

Just tested this on my vamp and my Night's Silence set is now COMPLETELY USELESS. Can I at least get my fraking mats back ZoS??????? I paid a boatload to have that set made and now there is ZERO point in having it. Thanks you guys! /sarcasm

My set is still working, but I'm not a vamp. Maybe your vamp abilities override the set. Or you might want to contact CS. Or you could cure your vampirism. Can't have both.

It does not work for vamps any longer. I'm totally ticked off about it for a host of reasons but you damn right I want my mats back! IF I must now go with a completely different set because this one conveys no benefit whatsoever then yes, ZoS owes me a new set. And yes, I HAVE contacted CS. Waiting to hear back.

Yusuf

You can still stack SPEED (maneuvers,speedpotion,mediumarmor,steed-stone). But anything SNEAKING at that speed should create a gust of wind or make a loud WHOOOOSH noise, srsly -.-
As if nobody would notice that suspicious guy with 2 daggers breaking the sonic wall.

Edit: forgot to mention: Path of Darkness, Boundless Presence