Worst Change in this Patch

balberith

I understand your pain. If the button doesn't say impulse, streak or devouring swarm you don't know what to do! AMIRITE?

Vez

Except you no longer have to open the containers, saving you 2 to 3 button pushes depending on whether you used mouse or keybinds to open them. It's a net reduction.

Maotti

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey folks. This was actually a fix, and we had always intended to have a confirmation when deleting mail. That said, we understand that some of you would like to see a toggle for this, and are considering adding this in for a future patch.

What about the change to merchants and bankers introduced in update 3? No toggle for that in the plans either? I like my merchants to be rude and keep talking while browsing. :P

GCVDJ11T

As I'm waiting for the patch to download I came across this three page post. There were more posts on this then broken Shadow Cloak. I hysterically love all of you!

AlnilamE

I'm not 100% sure but it seems to go away when you turn off tutorials.

tordr86b16_ESO

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey folks. This was actually a fix, and we had always intended to have a confirmation when deleting mail. That said, we understand that some of you would like to see a toggle for this, and are considering adding this in for a future patch.

Why didn't you add one in the first place..... ?

Digiman

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey folks. This was actually a fix, and we had always intended to have a confirmation when deleting mail. That said, we understand that some of you would like to see a toggle for this, and are considering adding this in for a future patch.

I can understand this for mail that hold items, but it seems moot for empty meaningless ones.

UrQuan

Digiman wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey folks. This was actually a fix, and we had always intended to have a confirmation when deleting mail. That said, we understand that some of you would like to see a toggle for this, and are considering adding this in for a future patch.

I can understand this for mail that hold items, but it seems moot for empty meaningless ones.

Except that wouldn't make sense, because you can't delete mail that holds items anyway - you have to take the attachments before you can delete it.

tordr86b16_ESO

UrQuan wrote: »

Digiman wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey folks. This was actually a fix, and we had always intended to have a confirmation when deleting mail. That said, we understand that some of you would like to see a toggle for this, and are considering adding this in for a future patch.

I can understand this for mail that hold items, but it seems moot for empty meaningless ones.

Except that wouldn't make sense, because you can't delete mail that holds items anyway - you have to take the attachments before you can delete it.

Yes, which is why I find this entire change abysmal, unless they replaced the old system with the new one...

UrQuan

AlnilamE wrote: »

I'm not 100% sure but it seems to go away when you turn off tutorials.

I just tested this and it didn't work.

Arsenic_Touch

tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Digiman wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey folks. This was actually a fix, and we had always intended to have a confirmation when deleting mail. That said, we understand that some of you would like to see a toggle for this, and are considering adding this in for a future patch.

I can understand this for mail that hold items, but it seems moot for empty meaningless ones.

Except that wouldn't make sense, because you can't delete mail that holds items anyway - you have to take the attachments before you can delete it.

Yes, which is why I find this entire change abysmal, unless they replaced the old system with the new one...

Nope, still can't delete a mail unless you take the attachment. So it's a pretty pointless change and how they're "considering" a toggle.... oi vey.

zhevon

UrQuan wrote: »

Digiman wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey folks. This was actually a fix, and we had always intended to have a confirmation when deleting mail. That said, we understand that some of you would like to see a toggle for this, and are considering adding this in for a future patch.

I can understand this for mail that hold items, but it seems moot for empty meaningless ones.

Except that wouldn't make sense, because you can't delete mail that holds items anyway - you have to take the attachments before you can delete it.

Learn something new everyday - I never tried to delete a mail with attachments.

UrQuan

zhevon wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Digiman wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey folks. This was actually a fix, and we had always intended to have a confirmation when deleting mail. That said, we understand that some of you would like to see a toggle for this, and are considering adding this in for a future patch.

I can understand this for mail that hold items, but it seems moot for empty meaningless ones.

Except that wouldn't make sense, because you can't delete mail that holds items anyway - you have to take the attachments before you can delete it.

Learn something new everyday - I never tried to delete a mail with attachments.

Hey, if you're not learning new things every day you're probably dead

lathbury

Hey at least the managed to nerf my nb cloak. I definitely felt to op the one time I actually managed to use it to escape from someone. Luckily the fact that the stealth radius passives are broken, cloak is even worse and night silence set doing nothing. Should combine to ensure that no nb is able to successfully leave combat or enter it via stealth again.
All they need to do now is stop sorcs using magic,DK's using fire and Templars healing and we will have balance.

Cogo

Tripwyr wrote: »

Mail now has a confirmation before deleting. This adds another step to deleting the excessive mail received from PvP.

This is not a troll thread, I am livid that these changes keep getting added without the option to disable them.

I agree on the excessive mail in PvP. It NEEDS to get reduced how much rewards you get from pvp! Seriously. You get more gear there in 2 hours then 2 days in PvE!

Swampster

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey folks. This was actually a fix, and we had always intended to have a confirmation when deleting mail. That said, we understand that some of you would like to see a toggle for this, and are considering adding this in for a future patch.

LOL.. let me get this straight, you're considering adding a toggle that will basically turn off a button that you just added, a button that is pretty much functionally redundant in the first place? Did you really just say that?

Once we get that, can we have a button that we need to press while activating/deactivating the toggle.. a safety catch so to speak.. just I wouldn't want to toggle it by mistake..

zbtiqua

Tripwyr wrote: »

Mail now has a confirmation before deleting. This adds another step to deleting the excessive mail received from PvP.

This is not a troll thread, I am livid that these changes keep getting added without the option to disable them.

Now I know why this game is still so messed up... alacrity has been crying to ZOS about the stupidest *** they can think up instead of focusing on things that actually matter...

Cogo

Swampster wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey folks. This was actually a fix, and we had always intended to have a confirmation when deleting mail. That said, we understand that some of you would like to see a toggle for this, and are considering adding this in for a future patch.

LOL.. let me get this straight, you're considering adding a toggle that will basically turn off a button that you just added, a button that is pretty much functionally redundant in the first place? Did you really just say that?

Once we get that, can we have a button that we need to press while activating/deactivating the toggle.. a safety catch so to speak.. just I wouldn't want to toggle it by mistake..

Look at it this way...if that is his biggest problem with any game, he is in the perfect game! :-)

ElfFromSpace

Blame me for the change and the other people who accidentally deleted a mail, in my case with a topic "I need some foods" and then I politely asked the support staff if there was any way I could just know who sent me the mail I accidentally deleted while deleting hireling mails.

The extra button push.. Yes it's annoying. Yes it should be an "option" we can turn off while agreeing to the terms of never bugging the support team to restore deleted mails.
But more important I wish they'd do some basic things like add a reply button, allow me to see my sent mails, increase the size of the mailbox so that I can actually GET a player mail even if I did just log all my alts with hirelings, or go and PVP, and to add a feature allowing guilds to send guild mails, perhaps only once per day to prevent excessive mails.

raglau

OK, so just got the patch in the EU and it turns out this is by far not the worst thing! I knew it was too good to be true...;-)

Bleakraven

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey folks. This was actually a fix, and we had always intended to have a confirmation when deleting mail. That said, we understand that some of you would like to see a toggle for this, and are considering adding this in for a future patch.

Yes, please! At least a "don't show again" thing.

fromtesonlineb16_ESO

Swampster wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey folks. This was actually a fix, and we had always intended to have a confirmation when deleting mail. That said, we understand that some of you would like to see a toggle for this, and are considering adding this in for a future patch.

LOL.. let me get this straight, you're considering adding a toggle that will basically turn off a button that you just added, a button that is pretty much functionally redundant in the first place? Did you really just say that?

Once we get that, can we have a button that we need to press while activating/deactivating the toggle.. a safety catch so to speak.. just I wouldn't want to toggle it by mistake..

Brilliant reply to this nonsense, brilliant!

smeeprocketnub19_ESO

Cogo wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

Mail now has a confirmation before deleting. This adds another step to deleting the excessive mail received from PvP.

This is not a troll thread, I am livid that these changes keep getting added without the option to disable them.

I agree on the excessive mail in PvP. It NEEDS to get reduced how much rewards you get from pvp! Seriously. You get more gear there in 2 hours then 2 days in PvE!

No, you don't, actually. Equivalent time PvEing will get you more gear, plus other useful things that you won't get PvPing. You only get the more generic set pieces, too. And nothing other than greens. And about 60 gold per container, when the cost of PvPing is so much steeper than PvE.

Lol at PvE'rs whining that PvP'rs get more stuff. That gave me a good laugh.

GaiusCastricius

My postman came with a package this morning I was "livid" I had to take 5 seconds of my life to sign for it.

AlnilamE

Not sure what happened, but it's not asking me for confirmation anymore, even on toons where I haven't turned tutorials off yet.

Siliconhobbit_ESO

I'm not mad at this change, however it is rather annoying that empty mail asks this confirmation.

I hit the delete key for a reason, I really do not need to confirm that I want to delete an empty mail.

My question is: Why was this confirmation added to begin with?


It doesn't seem like it was needed.

Azarul

I agree with OP, bugged or not this is an extra step that is not needed.

purple-magicb16_ESO

This post gets my vote for most trivial complaint ever.

BBSooner

Its incredibly annoying, even when I use the hotkeys. Reminds me of that windows alert that I always immediately disable "ARE YOU SUPER DUPER SURE YOU WANT TO DO THIS? " - "yes, shut up".

Arsenic_Touch

purple-magicb16_ESO wrote: »

This post gets my vote for most trivial complaint ever.

Except it's not a trivial complaint, not by a long shot. Anyone that pvps or sells items on guild stores will be annoyed by this change. Which is ultimately redundant because you cannot delete the mail unless you retrieve the attachment. So they essentially annoyed the majority of players because a handful needs to be coddled? yeah, clearly trivial. Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back sport.