Nightblade Concealed Weapon bugs -- anyone else having these?

Samadhi

I am having a few ongoing bugs with Nightblade's Concealed Weapon slotted skill bonus (morph of Veiled Strike in Nightblade Shadow line) and I am wondering if anyone else is experiencing the following:

If I have Concealed Weapon slotted on one weapon bar, but not the other, then swap weapons while Sneaking, I lose the bonus even after I swap bars back to the bar with Concealed Weapon on it.
I am required to Ctrl out of Crouch and then back again in order to reactivate the bonus.

If I have Concealed Weapon slotted and am Sneaking, then use Shadow Cloak while Sneaking the Concealed Weapon bonus breaks when invisibility wears out.
Once again, I am required to Ctrl out of Crouch and then back again in order to reactivate the bonus.

I have sent in /bug reports about these issues some time ago, but have not seen any mention of fixes in upcoming Patch Notes.

Out of personal interest, is anyone else experiencing these issues, or am I alone on these?

TheFamousMockingbird

Yes. It seems that several NB abilities that rely on or enhance stealth are broken and actually break stealth when you cast them. Sometime my dark cloak will be enough clear 'in combat' status but just as often I am stuck unable to restealth due to something be it an omniscient NPC or maybe even someone with a detect potion or magelight,

Another excellent example of this is the Path of Darkness skill. When cast while stealthed it breaks stealth, which seems completely wrong being that the skill is supposed to provide a stealth speed boost.

Since any class can stealth, it seems NBs should have more bonuses and buffs for sneaking otherwise nightblade is just a cool sounding name.

kitsinni

Yeah you have to leave stealth and re stealth with the bar with it active. It's just one of the many annoying night blade bugs that will never be fixed.

Skafsgaard

I experienced the exact same on my alt NB when I had that morph. Ive since respecced into the armour debuff morph.

Samadhi

Well, at least I'm not alone in experiencing this issue.

I have found a couple work-arounds in exiting and re-entering stealth; as well as one that includes slotting the skill on both my bars to keep the effect from breaking on weapon swap, at least.

It is really rather frustrating as an issue to deal with though.
It would be far more appreciated if this bonus were working properly; having to work around bugs just to access effects my class is supposed to functionally have is quite disheartening.

kitsinni wrote: »

...It's just one of the many annoying night blade bugs that will never be fixed.

I keep hoping it will be fixed each time I read Patch Notes, but I don't come across changes for it.

I have no idea what I'm supposed to do if my /bug reports garnish no results.

Perhaps @ZOS_JessicaFolsom‌ or @ZOS_GinaBruno‌ can provide some insight into what players should do in response to long-standing bugs that seem to go without attention, even though they are getting reported.

I suppose I could always just re-roll to one of the classes that gets issues tended to; however, I am most interested in playing Nightblade and I am more interested in seeing the class get actual fixes itself.

Romikov

yeh the Concealed Weapon didnt work .. and the Nights Silenc and the Shadowy disguise 2 /

GrimMauKin

I don't get the Concealed Weapon stealth speed bonus at all at the moment. The latest patch broke so much to do with Nightblades that they seem pretty unplayable right now. I'm having major issues with stealth, Shadow Cloak and Concealed Weapon and potential issues with other passives.

jelliedsoup

Yep NB here, not enjoying the game since 1.4.3 at all.

Luckily I use night's silence, concealed weapon and shadowy disguise. Shame 1.3.4 was good.

Drazhar14

Have the same bug as OP. Before and after update 4. Concealed weapon on one bar, sneaking speed works fine. Swap weapons while sneaking, lose speed as expected. Swap back to bar with concealed weapon, don't get my speed boost back. Need to leave stealth and re-enter.

Another bug, using shadow cloak while sneaking removes the concealed weapon sneak speed once the invisibility wears off. Only way to get speed back is to leave sneak mode and re-enter once again.

Zero_Tolerance

That started happening somewhere after 1.3, at least I noticed it then. At the same time they introduced the change to Hidden status.

GreyPilgrim

Yeah, I think I noticed this on Update 3, but then I put Concealed on both bars and forgot about it.

This is still an issue as of Update 4, as I rediscovered in tweaking my load and taking Concealed off the second bar. Once you swap weapons and swap back, the stealth speed bonus doesn't reapply. You have to do something, that always involves breaking stealth, in order to get it working again.

And, yes, I also submitted a bug report, but it feels like bug reports don't do much till people start b****ing on the forums.

jelliedsoup

Whatever works to get it fixed. I don't bother submitting bugs/issues with gameplay any more as you'll get some randomly generated response.
The more people who complain about an issue make it more of a priority, and the forums are the place to drum up support.

GreyPilgrim

jelliedsoup wrote: »

Whatever works to get it fixed. I don't bother submitting bugs/issues with gameplay any more as you'll get some randomly generated response.
The more people who complain about an issue make it more of a priority, and the forums are the place to drum up support.

Well, I say do both. Forum threads can disappear relatively rapidly, at least a bug ticket goes straight into the data stream. But, no, unless its reporting a player, they pretty much won't even send you a generic acknowledgement. That doesn't mean they didn't see it though, just that there are still too many bugs to acknowledge every report.

NakedSnake

Been like this since launch.

Samadhi

GreyPilgrim wrote: »

jelliedsoup wrote: »

Whatever works to get it fixed. I don't bother submitting bugs/issues with gameplay any more as you'll get some randomly generated response.
The more people who complain about an issue make it more of a priority, and the forums are the place to drum up support.

Well, I say do both. Forum threads can disappear relatively rapidly, at least a bug ticket goes straight into the data stream. But, no, unless its reporting a player, they pretty much won't even send you a generic acknowledgement. That doesn't mean they didn't see it though, just that there are still too many bugs to acknowledge every report.

I would just like to point out that many of the Nightblade issues I reported with a /bug report during Early Access and multiple times after Early Access did not receive fixes.
When I posted detailed reports of the (same) issues on the forums, the issues got fixed by the next patch after I posted.

I totally agree that both should be submitted; however, I have seen more success out of forum threads personally.

Mavra

Is it me or does it seem that the devs just don't have what it takes to stabilize this game that I love so much?

kewl

Mavra wrote: »

Is it me or does it seem that the devs just don't have what it takes to stabilize this game that I love so much?

I used to disregard comments like this. But now I'm beginning to think it's spot on.

NakedSnake

Mavra wrote: »

Is it me or does it seem that the devs just don't have what it takes to stabilize this game that I love so much?

Have patience. In 4 years things will start to balance out like with most mmos.

smeeprocketnub19_ESO

kewl wrote: »

Mavra wrote: »

Is it me or does it seem that the devs just don't have what it takes to stabilize this game that I love so much?

I used to disregard comments like this. But now I'm beginning to think it's spot on.

agreed. /sigh

Mograineb16_ESO

NakedSnake wrote: »

Been like this since launch.

Yep, this is nothing new. But im glad more people are bringing it up, might acually be fixed