It's time to bring back that 100% proc rate of Silver Bolts/Shards against vampires

LonePirate

There are just too many vampires running around Cyrodiil.

Xsorus

Spec Camo Hunter, go Bow...when ya see a Vampire...Charge heavy attack from stealth, soon as you let loose fire venom arrow and light attack (animation clip)

If you're fast enough, you'll land 3 Camo Attacks at once (plus a chance to proc the other ones as well)

I've instant killed a few vampires this way.

dcincali

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Spec Camo Hunter, go Bow...when ya see a Vampire...Charge heavy attack from stealth, soon as you let loose fire venom arrow and light attack (animation clip)

If you're fast enough, you'll land 3 Camo Attacks at once (plus a chance to proc the other ones as well)

I've instant killed a few vampires this way.

Reported

kijima

So, you want to one shot vamps right? That's fair and reasonable, I honestly can't see why ZOS wouldn't do this for you. Funny you should mention this, as I'm preparing my letter to Santa early this year, this is what I've got so far and since you have such great ideas, could you let me know if I've missed out on anything.

Dear Santa Claus,

For Christmas this year I'd like the ability to one shot vamps in Elder Scrolls Online as I'm a casual player and refuse to move out of Batswarm's.

While I'm at it, I'd also like the ability to stop Sorc's streaking and be able to root them where they stand so I can pound them into the ground.

Of course, it goes without saying that I'll need the matching skillset for Templar's but with the skill of stopping them from healing themselves. Seriously, how am I supposed to kill them when they have so much health. ZOS really don't know anything about classes.

NB's have recently been giving me trouble with their stealth and large bow attacks, can you stuff some Armour in my stockings that makes me immune to bow attacks and be able to see all who stealth.

And finally, I'd like a skill to end DK's hit one hit. I've been killed by DK's more times than I care to remember and I think it's time I get my own back. It's only fair right? Honestly, I think everyone that plays as a DK is cheating and at the very least using macro's. No one can be 'that' good.

Yours Sincerely,

Pugly McPugpug - Part of the Y Generation.

P.S. Can I ask what's with the coal you sent me last year, what are you trying to tell me? It's not like we have an open fire at home or anything...

p_tsakirisb16_ESO

LonePirate wrote: »

There are just too many vampires running around Cyrodiil.

Yes they are, and you need Cammo Hunter if you are NB or general Archer or Templar*, or Evil Hunter if you are close combat stamina build. (ofc Cammo Hunter bonus damage will work with the charges from 2H and 1H lines).


*On Templar is by far the best ability to have if you are Bitting Jabs/Puncturing Sweep spec. It will always proc at least once during the duration of the BJ/PS
And always guarantee the 700+ damage hit if you use Toppling Charge from Stealth. (even if Toppling Charge doesn't do extra damage from Stealth).

Silver Leash is for the follow up, to drop them down again, and keep hacking

I am experimenting with Turn Undead for the laugh at the moment instead of Silver Leash. By far the funniest ability to use ever.

And of course the mandatory Dawnbreaker of Smiting, if you do not use stamina build....


More Vampires in Cyrodiil please............

Renuo

As a vampire (an already fragile glass cannon at that), anyone built to be a vampire hunter make me dissolve. Also on keep assaults I'm petrified of all breeches lol

Bramir

p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

There are just too many vampires running around Cyrodiil.

I am experimenting with Turn Undead for the laugh at the moment instead of Silver Leash. By far the funniest ability to use ever.

Keep experimenting. Turn undead is the bomb...of course, only because more than half of the toons in Cyrodil are vamps...

Dudis

No. We want vamps to be balanced, not useless. What happend you in that pic could just as well have been banners and novas.

Imo, they are pretty well balanced atm, at least for smallscale pvp.

I recently dropped vamp myself because DKs.

rsciw

"ENEMY ULTIIMATES! OUT OF MY WAY, I NEED TO RUN INTO THOSE!!!"

alternatively, try dodging

or maybe accept you won't win 100% all the time, and may even die from a combination of items, even if it's a combo of people using same/similar skill.

hasselhoffman

As a vampire, I have no issue with the counter mechanisms in place for a vampire. The passives and recovery on stamina and magicka are great along with the sneak passive. The class should be able to be countered easily due to the benefits of the class compared to a non-vamp. My only gripe is that a sorcerer can spam streak into a large group of players and gain ultimate very fast to spam swarm with impunity it seems. That's my only complaint with vamps at this point in time.

JackDaniell

Well, you got killed in what seams to be at least a 4v1, so I wouldn't cry nerf because from the information provided you look to be outnumbered. Regardless of vampirism or not a 4v1 is not good odds.

Seccond, their is an entire tree dedicated to killing vampires (as many have already stated). Having a broken skill that just 1 shots all vamps is plain stupid. Perhaps you should try turn undead next time you get bat swamped, they will all just... run away from you

Tintinabula

you got hit by four players ultimates. Im sorry but that has nothing to do with being a vampire..it has to do with being hit by four players ultimates

silver shards wouldn't have helped you while being hit with four players ultimates simultaneously while they were in batswarm seeing as how its a single target skill and you cant single target batswarmers.

GRxKnight

OP gets a lol. I think the reasons are pretty self explanatory

Pathfinder

My only gripe with Vamps is that bat swarm moves with them. Not sure if any other AoE ult does that.

hasselhoffman

Pathfinder wrote: »

My only gripe with Vamps is that bat swarm moves with them. Not sure if any other AoE ult does that.

Magma armor dude, but the AoE range is shorter.

LonePirate

One of the Dragonknight Standard morphs allows it to be moved but that morph is almost never chosen.

Nox_Aeterna

Sure it should , but they also must make sure that batswarm now kills anything that it touches with one hit.

PvP will be about one hit killing each other , seems exactly how it should be :P.


The vamps arent the issue , there are stronger players , that simple , this is a RPG , dont think you are as strong as your enemy , cause you probably arent. There will be people that will clean the floor with your face without an issue just because of their raw char power and that is how it works.

EvilEmpire

edit - *** it, nevermind. i rage quit

hamon

i want a lazer gun

Tintinabula

hamon wrote: »

i want a lazer gun

You have one..It's called "soul assault"

Brizz

Tips for NightBlades:::

If you have Piercing mark, put it up asap and tab target. When they use their invisible bat swarm you can still target them through it.

Skafsgaard

I got hit by a 2722 silver shard the other day, it felt as one shot since a few minor other stuff hit me like light attacks. I think that proc rate is good and shudnt be improved, 1 shotting isnt fun in the long run either for the caster or target. One shotting isnt the answer and obviously OP has some l2p isssues.

Atm i only really find sorc vamps a nuissance and that is related to streak zerg+infinite ult regain.

Dekkameron

The OPs comment was so nearly a "Lost Boys" film quote. If he had done so, then this thread might have been redeemed.

"One thing about living in Cyrodil I never could stomach, all the damn vampires."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q_Na5Ou5Rs

Pseudonym

"I die when I get hit by multiple ultimates at once"

That's what I just read, and it's ridiculous.

Lava_Croft

You know what would be a much better idea than reintroducing a bug? Have people actually use Silver Bolts/Shards.

RedTalon

Work in other fighter guild stuff, eivl hunter turn undead/circle of perversion and so on.

Turn undead is most useful will force vampires away just like a fear symbol to beat the zerglings, erm mean vampires.

Lava_Croft

RedTalon wrote: »

Work in other fighter guild stuff, eivl hunter turn undead/circle of perversion and so on.

Turn undead is most useful will force vampires away just like a fear symbol to beat the zerglings, erm mean vampires.

What is a bit *** about this situation is that there are so many Vamps that everybody is basically forced to slot these Fighter's Guild skills, only to fight something that should not provide that much of a bonus. While Vampires are not impossible to kill at all, the reason there are so incredibly much of them is enough of a hint that they aren't exactly well-balanced.

(I played Vampire since launch, cured myself yesterday, will never look back.)

Tintinabula

People use silverbolt looking for an easy one shot kill . That is all. They do it for no other reason. Vampires are not harder to kill than other players. Good players(who happen to be vampires ) are. So...people look for easy kills on them. I fight a particular nightblade who kills me and I kill them and frankly its a little insulting to be spammed with silverbolts while they hope for their proc(which they haven't gotten yet)

I guess if they focused on killing me with skills rather than random one shot kill procs they would have killed me as much as Ive killed them.

RedTalon

Lava_Croft wrote: »

RedTalon wrote: »

Work in other fighter guild stuff, eivl hunter turn undead/circle of perversion and so on.

Turn undead is most useful will force vampires away just like a fear symbol to beat the zerglings, erm mean vampires.

What is a bit *** about this situation is that there are so many Vamps that everybody is basically forced to slot these Fighter's Guild skills, only to fight something that should not provide that much of a bonus. While Vampires are not impossible to kill at all, the reason there are so incredibly much of them is enough of a hint that they aren't exactly well-balanced.

(I played Vampire since launch, cured myself yesterday, will never look back.)

I know vampires where going to be a favorite cause deep down everyone has a twilight side and love those type of personalities, personally wished vamps where more of a negative and my hopes where dashed with the law system allowing monsters to walk about freely at stage. Personally would like old school elder scrolls vampires and people to attack a stage four vamp on sightt.

But yeah its silly that everyone even vampires who fight other vampires have to have one of those guild skills sloted.

Guess with the world of darkness mmo canceled people have to get their fixed somewhere.

Durham

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Spec Camo Hunter, go Bow...when ya see a Vampire...Charge heavy attack from stealth, soon as you let loose fire venom arrow and light attack (animation clip)

If you're fast enough, you'll land 3 Camo Attacks at once (plus a chance to proc the other ones as well)

I've instant killed a few vampires this way.

Yep stealth+ bow+cammo is nasty. If your vamp nb add mark target to the equation lol...

Durham

Lava_Croft wrote: »

RedTalon wrote: »

Work in other fighter guild stuff, eivl hunter turn undead/circle of perversion and so on.

Turn undead is most useful will force vampires away just like a fear symbol to beat the zerglings, erm mean vampires.

What is a bit *** about this situation is that there are so many Vamps that everybody is basically forced to slot these Fighter's Guild skills, only to fight something that should not provide that much of a bonus. While Vampires are not impossible to kill at all, the reason there are so incredibly much of them is enough of a hint that they aren't exactly well-balanced.

(I played Vampire since launch, cured myself yesterday, will never look back.)

If you play stealth its nice to be a vamp for speed only... other then speed you are hurting ... siege will almost 1 shot you... there is so much fire damage in pvp right now you will take more damage..