Game Performance Boosting Tips

Thechemicals

I have a suggestion too.

Get a 760gt graphics card or better, and a 6core processor intel or better,and upgrade your internet to the best it can be then go out a buy a compatible modem that is specifically for gaming and isnt a cheap piece of sht.

raglau

From a general computing perspective, in most cases Intel CPUs currently give higher performance than AMD, for some architectural reasons around shared internal components. You will pay slightly more however. If you do choose AMD CPU, then run Windows 8.x as it contains some hotfixes specifically related to thread scheduling (running apps on multiple cores) that improve performance quite significantly. You can download these hotfixes for Win7 but IMO you may as well use the OS that's natively setup to do the job, as I don't think these hotfixes are automatically added via Windows Update.

From a game perspective an Intel Core i5 with the highest clock speed you can afford usually gives best performance. A Core i7 is an i5 with some added virtual cores. These virtual cores share less internal CPU components than in the AMD model so have *potential* to perform better but for gaming it seems - in testing - that most games will either not benefit from a Core i7 or in some cases, suffer slightly. Some games have shown a slight benefit but ESO, which is poorly multi-threaded, will not see benefit from a Core i7, instead it prefers the highest clock speed you can give it.

A Core i5 is four cores and yes, the GHz is the speed of the CPU, the higher the better.

I run a Core i7 at 4.6GHz but I do use it for a lot of non-gaming stuff.

In your position of looking for a new system right now, I would be looking for an Intel Core i5 system that comes over clocked (you can do it yourself but I am getting the sense you perhaps are not massively into the detailed technical side of things, so perhaps a turnkey solution is best for you). The fastest variant right now is the 4690K CPU.

I've tried to keep this at a useful level of detail but if you want to understand any of it in more detail, then please let me know.

crimsonblade02191973 wrote: »

This post is going to be all about CPUs because it sounds like one of the biggest thing holding me back is my CPU. All this discussion has brought out a lot of numbers. I3, I5, I7 etc. which I believe are the cores and apparently these cores can run at different speeds which is the GHz numbers that I am seeing. Am I correct about that? Now in looking for a new system and wanting the best for my buck what should I choose? Money is not a factor because I can wait as long as it takes for me to save for the best CPU. I am not in any hurry. So fill me in with all the details so that I will have a better understanding of CPUs. The comments so far a very good but most only show what people are using. I need a comparison type comment from someone or two or more to be able to make a good judgement call when it comes to choosing a CPU. You probably guessed it that I am not computer tech savy and you would be right LOL! What I need is a comparison of the cores and the speeds. Right now my assumption is that the higher the numbers the better the CPU but I could be wrong.

SFBryan18

Skafsgaard wrote: »

Im looking to get a new PC for ESO. What would you suggest?

ASUS + Intel + Nvidia.

I have a 2 years old ASUS G74SX laptop, and I recently built a cheap computer for my cousin. The G74SX has an i7 with eight cores, 12GB RAM, an Nvidia 560m 3GB GPU, and two 750GB HDDs. I've reinstalled a clean version of windows 7 64bit, and I use Panda Cloud Antivirus, which is a free and very light scanner. I also clean the registry with ccleaner, and defragment when I make changes to the drives. I noticed that when I reinstalled the game onto my second drive, I got a small performance boost too.

Make sure to set the computers power settings to high performance. In the Nvidia control pannel, I set single display performance mode, perfer maximum performance for power management, texture quality high performance, tripple buffering on, and verticle sync on.

These are the settings I use with my G74SX in ESO:
Resolution: 1920x1080
Vsync: Off (much better to use the Nvidia Vsync instead)
AA: On (a slight performance hit but the smoothing makes a huge difference and can't be duplicated with the Nvidia settings)
Gamma: 76 (in usersettings.txt)
Textures: High
Subsampling: High
Shadows: High
Water reflection: High
Particles: High
View Distance: 50
AO: On (Huge difference which can't be duplicated with the Nvidia settings)
Bloom: On
DoF: Off
Distortion: On
Sunlight Rays: On
Grass: On

The computer I built was on a budget. I wanted to build something that would work, but save as much money as possible. I bought everything at Newegg.com. I got an ASUS motherboard for $60, and ASUS Nvidia 630GT 2GB for $80. An Intel i3 3.4Ghz for $125, 8GB RAM for $80, 1TB HDD for $65, a cheap $20 tower and a cheap $20 DVD. I installed Windows 7 64bit, and the same software I use on my laptop. This computer obviously can't handle as much, but on a budget, it still looks pretty good.

These are the settings for the custom build in ESO:
Resolution: 1920x1080
Vsync: Off (much better to use the Nvidia Vsync instead)
AA: Off
Gamma: 76 (in usersettings.txt)
Textures: High
Subsampling: Medium
Shadows: Medium
Water reflection: Medium
Particles: Medium
View Distance: 37
AO: On (Huge difference which can't be duplicated with the Nvidia settings)
Bloom: On
DoF: Off
Distortion: Off
Sunlight Rays: On
Grass: On

The custom build gets slightly less fps running on medium settings compared to my top of the line laptop on high settings. These computers both have older GPU's, so they do not get the best FPS. About 30 average, but the frame rate is not anywhere near as noticeable as the graphics. Turning the graphics down makes the game look terrible.

I have noticed that the GPU is just as important as the CPU. Older GPU's get less FPS. It's that simple. The game has CPU bottlenecks, so you want a fast processor as well. Newer hardware, both CPU and GPU, will simply get better performance because they are better. As for system RAM, you won't need more that 4GB, but upgrading to 8GB won't hurt because the computer runs other tasks while you play. And the harddrive will make a small difference. Like I said, installing the game onto my second drive had slightly better performance because the HDD for the system could load at the same time as the HDD for the game, instead of both using one disk. A SSD would likely be a little faster, but note that they are much more delicate and also expensive so best for desktops.

I believe this game should be performing much better than it does, and I hope the developers continue to work on optimizing it for better CPU's. Options like shadows don't give enough customization between medium and high. You basically go from seeing them in the distance to not seeing them in the distance at all, and it looks terrible. There should be some options in between and I think they were just lazy when they made the settings. Right now, it's basically, your system is good enough for the game to look great, or it's not and the game looks horrible. There are not enough options.

indigoblades

Skafsgaard wrote: »

Im looking to get a new PC for ESO. What would you suggest?

FOR ESO only
8 GB mem, 2gb newer video card, 3.5ghz or better CPUand no need for lots of cores an SSD. Me i like Win 7 the best ( actually i should say i like win 8 the least actually ).

Intel cpu's are faster than amd but sometimes more pricey. For ESO video it is not as critical as long as the has 2GB Vram. ESO wont use extra Cpu cores but other apps and games will.

indigoblades

DELETED & reposted below after I saw his video card hardware.

raglau

indigoblades wrote: »

The other day i tried all permutations of settings and the VIEW DISTANCE had the biggest effect on any thing .... Check it out yourself and you will see .....

u will see view distance has the biggest effect. (at least for me) I think the game is so cpu bound any good GPU can handle. If the would make the support multiple cpu cores our frame rates would improve.

Yeah, I did this as an experiment the other day and also got improvements. I run a Core i7 and a GTX780 so my performance is good, but I long ago noticed my CPU was maxed out on a core while my GPU does nothing. So I lowered view distance in order that the CPU was not dealing with as much geometric data (CPU defines it, GPU renders it).

This improved my performance and started to use my GPU more because no longer was the CPU bottlenecking things.

In my case it was simply an experiment but I can see how it would help people suffering from significant CPU bottlenecks.

indigoblades

indigoblades wrote: »

Neizir wrote: »

My Specs:
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit.
CPU: Intel Core i5-2320 Quad Core 3.0GHz
RAM: 8GB DDR3
GPU: AMD Radeon 7450 (Soon upgrading to R9 280X)
Hard Drive: 2TB HDD
Screen Resolution: 768p (Soon upgrading to 1080p)

I know the GPU is relatively weak but are there any tips for improving performance? I only get about 30fps in PvE areas like Craglorn even with low settings. My settings for optimal performance/best quality are:
Resolution: 768p
AA: Off
Textures: High
Subsampling: Medium (Low in PVP)
Shadows: Off
Water Reflection Quality: Off
Particles: High
View Distance: 60
Ambient Occlusion, Depth of Field, Grass: All off.
Bloom, Distortion, Sunlight Rays: On.

Even with these settings I get terrible performance in Cyrodiil and average at best performance in PvE areas.
Any tips?

The other day i tried all permutations of settings and the VIEW DISTANCE had the biggest effect on any thing .... Check it out yourself and you will see .....

1 . type /fps if u dont have some displaying ur fps. find a common place to stand (clump of grass) and something the same to point ur mouse at (tree, sign, whatever). Do this OUTSIDE in a VERY busy city (with lots of other players) so it will representative of Stress on the game. I use Riften and today i am getting about 33 fps with a view distance of 50.

2. set your graphics to med or low ... Remember this view distance (should be around 10 to 15) and lets call it 'VD_low'. Now lets write down ur default view distance and fps. Now set ur view distance to 100, write down ur fps.

3. Set the game Ultra High graphics. write down view distance and fps. Now set ur view distance to VD_low

4. Repeat step 4 with High, Med settings but also find ur fps at each view distance =100 & view distance = VD_low . Your should have table like this:

Setting default VD FPS@default VD FPS@VD_low FPS@100
Ultra high 100 __ __ __
High __ __ __ __
Med __ __ __ __
Low 12 ? __ __ __

For my setup ..... my fps only changed 1-3 fps each quality jump, when i set each setting to the low view distance (what i called VD_low which is around 12). At view distance = 100 all where slow. If the same is true for u, a new graphics probably wont help.

Pvp is slower in busy battles but playable for me (above 20fps worst case). I think lots of Pvp lags & game problems which are network related, but i just started PVP so i am not an expert.

If your video card is decent, You will see view distance has the biggest effect. (at least for me) I think the game is so cpu bound any good GPU can handle it. If ZOS would make ESO support multiple cpu cores our frame rates would improve.

EDIT: Not sure but your video card, looks marginal. No one listed any specs that matter and the Vram is slow. so i cant say for certain if u are cpu or gpu bound. If ur settings go up down alot as u change resolution & Adv options (ambient occlusion, Depth of field ... ur video card is marginal .... if they go up an down ALOT 20 or 30 fps as u change texture quality OR resolution, it is lacking VRAM or the VRAM is so slow it cant load it from memory.

.... i have a 3 year old video card i got for under $200 back then (AMD Radeon 7800 with 2 gb DDR5 vram, 256bit interface, lots of stream procs, and core speed @ 1000 ghz). If u find ur game is bound by the video card, you should be able to find something decent for around $100 on newegg. Look for 2gb DDR5 and read reviews. 128bit interface is ok in that price range but look for lots of stream processors & cores & Mhz of the core. Me, i strongly reccomend 2gb VRAM .... if ur game doesn't need it today it will in the future. I just got friend some Amd card just over a $100 that works fine with about those specs. Of course u can spend more but i doubt it will help ur ESO.

Again, if only view distance effects ur graphics by more 1 to 2, u dont need a new graphics card.

crimsonblade02191973

Some things have changed with my system over the last couple of days. I got up the other day to find that my Primary Hard Drive the Original 80GB one that I had my OS on had played out. It was dead. It met its end. So I took it out and hooked up my seconday 500GB brand new Hard Drive to be my Primary but of course I had to wipe it in order to get the OS on there which meant all my games were wiped away. Anyways I went with Windows 7 but here is the deal. I got it on there and then downloaded all the updates and then something bad happened. I got a message saying that all 150 updates failed to install. I have never had anything like that happen when installing an OS so I made a call to Microsoft and they told me to shut down the computer and see what happens and sure enough luck was on my side and when I shut down all those updates began to install again this time successfully. Anyways when I was on the phone with Microsoft I asked them about Windows XP vs. Windows 7 and they basically told under no circumstances should I be using XP anymore. Well that was 2 days ago and I just got all my games reloaded today. ESO took over 24hrs. but that is due to my fairly slow internet speed. The thing is though I was wrong about ESO functioning better under XP. Before the Hard Drive crash I checked my FPS and I was getting between 5 and 10 which is extremely low. Some may wonder how in the world I was able to play with such low FPS and that would be because I play in Fullscreen Windowed mode with a lot of my setting turned off or way down. Well when I checked my FPS running under Windows 7 I am getting 15 to 20 FPS with the same settings. I've seen it go as high as 24 or so and movement is silky smooth and I am able to turn up some of the settings to High so I get good visuals. I've been reading all the input from folks and am taking notes so I will have information to give my local computer store when I have the money to get them to build me a custom computer. I am not going name brand because you can't specify very much in terms of what you want in it and this computer store can build me a computer with anything I tell them to put in it and their prices are really good. I've already been in contact with them and told them some of the specs I've been seeing here on this forum and they gave me a price range of $700 to $1000 for the total package which isn't bad at all. I was afraid they were going to say 2 or 3 thousand. Anyways my point is all this info is and has been very helpful to me so keep it up. This is really good discussion.

raglau

crimsonblade02191973 wrote: »

Anyways when I was on the phone with Microsoft I asked them about Windows XP vs. Windows 7 and they basically told under no circumstances should I be using XP anymore.

Yeah, they have to tell you that, in case you were to put on WinXP, get some malware through it being out of support, and then point the finger at them!

It's interesting you got such a boost. Before you rebuilt with Win7, how long had that machine had the XP OS installed etc?

crimsonblade02191973

@squicker - This computer was purchased in 2007 as an office computer that my folks used at their place of business. They had 3 office spaces and decided to give one up because of the high rent. This computer was in that office and they gave it to me. So it had XP on it for about 7 years. I had purchased a copy of 7 for a laptop but the laptop won't play the games because it needs shader model 3.

Yeah I got a nice little boost in FPS. It is still very low to be sure but I'll take it. I can run smooth with good looking visuals if I play in Fullscreen Windowed mode. I get paid once a month and when all my bills are taken care of whatever I have left I am going to hold onto for getting a new system. Getting paid once a month isn't so bad. I know exactly how much I am going to have and I usually have about 2 hundred left after rent and bills that I can do with whatever I want. So it will probably take about 6 months to save up but I can do it and after seeing how low my FPS is I am seriously motivated to do this.

raglau

crimsonblade02191973 wrote: »

@squicker - This computer was purchased in 2007 as an office computer that my folks used at their place of business. They had 3 office spaces and decided to give one up because of the high rent. This computer was in that office and they gave it to me. So it had XP on it for about 7 years. I had purchased a copy of 7 for a laptop but the laptop won't play the games because it needs shader model 3.

Yeah I got a nice little boost in FPS. It is still very low to be sure but I'll take it. I can run smooth with good looking visuals if I play in Fullscreen Windowed mode. I get paid once a month and when all my bills are taken care of whatever I have left I am going to hold onto for getting a new system. Getting paid once a month isn't so bad. I know exactly how much I am going to have and I usually have about 2 hundred left after rent and bills that I can do with whatever I want. So it will probably take about 6 months to save up but I can do it and after seeing how low my FPS is I am seriously motivated to do this.

I am guessing the XP system was bogged Down with old software and running programs and the rebuild cleared it all out nicely.

It's good you got a boost of some kind to tide you over until the new machine.

crimsonblade02191973

@squicker - Thanks. I am just glad I had a new hard drive already or I would be spending some of my next pay check just so I can have a computer. My saving for a new system starts this month. I am only going to spend money when I have to and this may mean I have to stop playing ESO for a short while. I don't have a subscription but I use Gametime gift cards to purchase paid time for the game. Those are $30 a piece so if I buy one that is a $30 setback in my savings. My budget is tight but I am not going to cut corners just to get a computer fast. I am going to get a really good system and if I have to go up and over $1000 for it then that is what I will do. I don't want some piece of junk and having it custom built by a knowledgeable computer business will insure that I don't end up with junk.

DHBM

My Specs:
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit.
CPU: Intel Core i7-3770 Quad Core O.C @ 4.0GHz
RAM: 16GB DDR3
GPU: EVGA classified, Nvidia GeForce GTX 770
Hard Drive: 2TB HDD for movies, 1TB HDD for OS/ Games
Screen Resolution: One 1080p 32" LG TV, one 1680x1050 Secondary
Upgrading both to a Benq 27" gaming monitor when i get the cash.

Textures: High
Subsampling: High
Shadows: Ultra
Water Reflection Quality: High
Particles: Ultra
View Distance: 100
Ambient Occlusion, Bloom, Depth of Field, Distortion, Sunlight Rays, Grass: On.

usually running 65 FPS+ in PVE areas, 40 or so in craiglorn grinds.
have yet to try PVP due to all the issues with FPS there

Zanbarbone

I run and store the game on a 128G USB 3.0 thumb drive ... Because I have little room on my SSD. but the game runs great... 60-70 FPS 45-60 in PVP. Much faster then either of my 500G storage drives.

Greatfellow

squicker wrote: »

SkillzMFG wrote: »

How the hell do you people get 100 FPS? I can't get 100 FPS in a small dungeon and my PC is not that bad actually. I have 4GB RAM, AMD Radeon R7 200 series graphic card, AMD Athlon II X3 450 Processor 3.2ghz and I'm on Win7 64bit

Once I removed the FPS cap I got 120FPS on an Asus 3D (120Hz) monitor, with everything on in both the game and NVidia control panel.

But, I have a Core i7 @ 4.6GHz and a GTX780 and whilst you are correct that your machine is not deficient in any way, each generational change brings vast increases in compute power. So I think it's to be expected.

My FPS will drop in PvP areas and very busy outdoor areas such as the main cities.

I think the Core i7 @ 4.6GHz is your ticket to high frame rates.

I have dual fast SSDs, an EVGA GTX780 and Asus 3D 144Hz monitor, run the game at 1920x1080 at 144Hz, and the GTX780 never gets more than 35% load. I have an AMD FX8120 oc'd to 4.4 GHz, and run around cities at 23 FPS, limited by the single-core dominance this game runs on. It sucks. I've even used over-resolutions of 3600 x whatever just to cut our aliasing, and it has no effect on FPS and not much effect on my GPU. I've shut down four cores of my CPU and set affinities and priorities and....well, nothing helped.

It's all what CPU you have. I've been building my own computers for ten years now, and hate to say it but I'll probably move from AMD to Intel for the 1st time next year. *sighs*

raglau

Greatfellow wrote: »

squicker wrote: »

SkillzMFG wrote: »

How the hell do you people get 100 FPS? I can't get 100 FPS in a small dungeon and my PC is not that bad actually. I have 4GB RAM, AMD Radeon R7 200 series graphic card, AMD Athlon II X3 450 Processor 3.2ghz and I'm on Win7 64bit

Once I removed the FPS cap I got 120FPS on an Asus 3D (120Hz) monitor, with everything on in both the game and NVidia control panel.

But, I have a Core i7 @ 4.6GHz and a GTX780 and whilst you are correct that your machine is not deficient in any way, each generational change brings vast increases in compute power. So I think it's to be expected.

My FPS will drop in PvP areas and very busy outdoor areas such as the main cities.

I think the Core i7 @ 4.6GHz is your ticket to high frame rates.

It's all what CPU you have. I've been building my own computers for ten years now, and hate to say it but I'll probably move from AMD to Intel for the 1st time next year. *sighs*

Yes, I do think the Core i7 drives my GPU - also a GTX780 - harder, but that limitation on how ESO is coded re multi-threading is still there. I dropped the view distance and my GPU was able to do more, as I think the CPU could send more data to it.

You probably know this as you obviously know your stuff, but if you are on Win7 have you put the thread scheduling and core parking fixes that are specific to AMD on your machine? They don't come down with Win Update so a lot of people miss them.

crimsonblade02191973

One really good thing I like about all these comments is no one has said use a Credit Card to get a new machine and I appreciate that very much. I am a Cash only man now. Yes I was caught up in the nightmare of Credit Card Debt but when I saw how debt is affecting our world I decided that I didn't want to be a part of the problem anymore. I had racked up quite a bit but I got myself out by using a simple method which is number one cut up the cards and close the accounts. Then take the highest balance and start hitting it with large payments while making just the minimum on the others. Then once that one is paid off move to the next one. I managed to get out from under a total of about 10 Grand in about a year or so doing it this way where as if I only paid the minimums it would probably have taken 10 years. Credit Cards for most people are nothing but trouble because of the abuse of power that comes with it. I will always remember my first swipe and how powerful it made me feel. It was like being on a high and the more I swiped the better the buzz until it got out of hand and I couldn't manage it anymore. I went to debt counseling where I learned a whole lot including the method I mentioned about getting out of debt fast. I will never swipe again folks. If I don't have the cash for what I want I simply don't get it until I do. Anyways that is my take on all that.

raglau

crimsonblade02191973 wrote: »

One really good thing I like about all these comments is no one has said use a Credit Card to get a new machine and I appreciate that very much. I am a Cash only man now. Yes I was caught u:

I agree, largely.

I pay for everything on credit card to get the consumer protection and...the airmiles!

But I pay my cards off at the end of very month, in full. So this way I get all the benefits with none of the risk. It's very easy to run up a large bill if you don't manage it this way.

Zanbarbone

Ask your bank if they offer a rechargeable Credit Card. I have one and I can transfer money to it from my checking account online.

crimsonblade02191973

For me credit card swiping was an addiction. I had at least 10 cards at one point and had racked up over 10 Grand fueling a hobby that didn't pan out for me which was Guitar playing and recording my own music. The equipment needed to do all that stuff was thousands of dollars and it was all credit card swipes and I don't make enough money to pay that kind of swipe off every month. 700 here 1000 there it all added up to one massive problem and when I saw how debt is affecting not just the USA but the whole world I decided for myself that I didn't want to be a part of the problem anymore but I was so addicted to the swipe that I didn't know how to stop so I checked into debt counseling and had several sessions with a person who was knowledgeable enough to set me on the right path.

NUMBER 1 - Cut up all the cards and call the company and close the accounts. That was a big hurdle for me but when I cut the first card it made a loud pop and something inside of me also popped and I realized I was starting to break free. Now the next hurdle was to call up the companies and tell them to close the accounts. This is rough because the company gets angry and tries to do whatever it can to keep you and using their card. I had to tell each one of them over and over again to close the accounts before they got the picture. Anyways I was warned about all this from my counselor and she told me exactly what to do each time the company made their pitch about keeping the card. Which is to simply say no mam or no sir - just close the account. Each one finally got the picture and did what I was asking them to do.

NUMBER 2 - I learned a simple method on how to get out of debt fast. Take the highest balance card and start hitting it with everything you've got while making the minimums on the other cards and once it is paid off move to the next card. Using this method I wiped out all my debt in about a year or so. It was November of last year that I became free and clear and one good thing about it is my credit is in excellent standing because I paid my debt instead of walking away.

Living free and clear gives me not only a whole lot of satisfaction but a whole lot of freedom as well. I don't have to work as much because I don't have the debt hanging over my head and I have more cash to do whatever I want with. I am a Certified Personal Trainer so I run my own business but just like any job I only make so much. Its enough to live on and have a little left over to do whatever I want but if I had that debt hanging over my head I would probably have to go back to working in retail as a second job. I make $30 a session and the gym gets $12 of that $30 and I only have a small handful of clients. In this business clients come and go. Once I set them on the right path to better physical health most of them set out on their own and just check in with me from time to time. There are some days when I have the whole day off and I don't spend the whole day at the gym either. When a new client comes in the gym assigns them a personal trainer if the person is interested in it so I don't have to go looking for clients. Pretty cool business. I get to teach my passion of living a healthy lifestyle and make a small living doing it. My spare time is spent doing things with family and friends and playing these games. Well I am rambling again so I will stop here. Now you know a little more about me and what I do and where I've been.

raglau

crimsonblade02191973 wrote: »

For me credit card swiping was an addiction. I had at least 10 cards at one point and had racked up over 10 Grand fueling a hobby that didn't pan out for me which was Guitar playing and recording my own music. The equipment needed to do all that stuff was

Heh, I play guitar. Collecting guitars is quite addictive - I have made a pact with my wife to sell some that I don't play as they are on the walls and everything now!

I think what people forget about debt is that it's not just the monetary aspect, as you say. It's the encroachment on your freedom. It puts people onto the treadmill. It really affects your ability to make tough decisions because you need to be thinking about where the next payment is coming from. You can't just take off to South America for 3 months and forget the modern world. Once debt has its claws into someone, it owns not just their bank balance, but their entire life.

They say that modern slavery is simply to put people into debt, this keeps them working forever.

Sounds like you did the right thing and made a noble change in your life.

crimsonblade02191973

@squicker - Yep Guitar playing is extremely addictive. I was actually a better Bass Guitar player than regular Guitar. I got where I could play along with some of my favorite songs with the Bass Guitar. My best was Van Halen's Running With The Devil. I would turn on the song and play the Bass Guitar part to that song over and over again. Ha Ha Van Halen that shows you the generation I am from. But Eddie Van Halen was one of the best Guitar players of all time. Or that could just be an opinion statement. He mastered a technique called Finger Tapping and that is what you hear in all of their songs. That lightning fast play that he does is finger tapping and that is one reason I gave up the hobby. My hands and fingers just didn't want to move fast enough especially on regular Guitar. Bass was cool but trying to get my fingers on a chord on regular guitar just wasn't happening and the hobby was dragging me into deep debt. My 12 track recorder was a $1200 swipe and then I felt like I had to have several Guitars because my thinking at that time was that the more Guitars I had the better of a player I would become and that just isn't so. So I packed it up one day and took all the equipment to a Guitar shop and sold all of it and man it was such a relief to get all that stuff off my back and that is when I made the decision to break free from the debt. I used all the money I got back from the equipment to jump start it but the rest had to come from slow but steady monthly payments using the method I learned in debt counseling.

p_tsakirisb16_ESO

crimsonblade02191973 wrote: »

I found a new tip this week that worked for me and that was to switch from using Windows 7 back to Windows XP. Windows XP allows the game to perform better in higher settings than Windows 7 because Windows 7 is a much more resource demanding OS than XP.

Actually there is a big different in W7 and XP, and comes to the DX version.

If you use W7-8-8.1 and switch the game to DX9 instead of DX11 you will see a big boost on the performance, at the cost of having DX9 graphics instead of DX11.


After that, W7 is far superior to XP which is not supported for many years now, had better driver support and most important better multi core CPU scaling.

And is tad daft to use XP32 today and limit the high end systems some have, while XP64 was always a piece of garbage.

raglau

crimsonblade02191973 wrote: »

@squicker - Yep Guitar playing is extremely addictive. I was actually a better Bass Guitar player than regular

Sent you a PM re guitars, always happy to talk guitar to someone!

crimsonblade02191973

@p_tsakirisb16_ESO - I found out that I was wrong about XP being better than 7. My OS hard drive crashed a few days ago. It met the end of its life. Luckily I had bought a new 500GB hard drive that I was using as a secondary. I made this my primary and decided to get Windows 7 on it instead of XP. Well before the crash I checked my FPS for the first time and it was fluctuating around 10 running under XP. With Windows 7 I am getting an average of about 18 or so and have seen it go as high as 24. So I was wrong with that comment about XP running the game better.

Anyways you mentioned DX9 and DX11 and switching. How do you do this? I am curious to try it out but not computer tech savy enough to know how this is done. I mean I don't even know which one I am using right now LOL! But seriously this is good information I just need to know how to apply it.

p_tsakirisb16_ESO

crimsonblade02191973 wrote: »

Anyways you mentioned DX9 and DX11 and switching. How do you do this? I am curious to try it out but not computer tech savy enough to know how this is done. I mean I don't even know which one I am using right now LOL! But seriously this is good information I just need to know how to apply it.

@crimsonblade02191973 Sure

If you go to the game UserSettings file you will see this....

SET GraphicsDriver.7 "D3D11"

You can change it to

SET GraphicsDriver.7 "D3D9"

or you can also try OpenGL

SET GraphicsDriver.7 "OpenGL"

Of course you need to have your client off...

cf398ub17_ESO

p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »

crimsonblade02191973 wrote: »

Anyways you mentioned DX9 and DX11 and switching. How do you do this? I am curious to try it out but not computer tech savy enough to know how this is done. I mean I don't even know which one I am using right now LOL! But seriously this is good information I just need to know how to apply it.

@crimsonblade02191973 Sure

If you go to the game UserSettings file you will see this....

SET GraphicsDriver.7 "D3D11"

You can change it to

SET GraphicsDriver.7 "D3D9"

or you can also try OpenGL

SET GraphicsDriver.7 "OpenGL"

Of course you need to have your client off...

thanks i am going to give this a try

ThePonzzz

Daethz wrote: »

ThePonzzz wrote: »

Another thing to consider is cleaning out your computer. As in, removing dust. When I first got ESO, I was running pretty hot at around 60 to 80 C. I went through and cleaned all my connections, fans, heat sink, and dropped down to a balmy 40 to 60 C.

...Unless your fans where full of dust to the point where they could barely spin, i think that might be a bit overblown.

Not at all, but my computer is a little older than what a lot of these people have in this thread. The workload is significant for a 5+ year old PC to run ESO on high graphic settings. But it wasn't just my fans with dust. The entire tower was pretty dusty, the heat sink was dusty. The vents were pretty dusty.

crimsonblade02191973

Yep I found it by google searching. I changed the 11 to a 9. This does give a slight boost about a 4 or 5 increase in FPS on my machine and I will take all I can get right now until I get my new computer. Thanks for posting this. This is something that anyone can do right on the spot. Getting a new system that will blow the game out of the water is going to take time.

crimsonblade02191973

I just ran a test with every setting turned down to minimal. The graphics at these very low settings remind me of DOS or at least first generation Windows. Pretty blurry and blocky but I was getting and average FPS of about 27 or 28 and it went up to 35 in some areas.

Do I want to play like this? Absolutely not. Will I play like this? Maybe if I can stand it. LOL! I can tell a big difference in the smoothness of movement with these setting vs. the ones I've been using. It gives me a feel like I am walking on air. View distance makes about a 5 point difference in FPS - 0 vs. 100

With 0 things that are really close are still out of the picture until you get almost upon them. With 100 I can see everything but FPS drops about 5 points or so. I may put that smack dab in the middle at 50. The reason is because if you can't see a bad guy you can't kill them but they can kill you.

Anyways just running some tests the point of which is to try to find my optimal settings.

EDIT: I just ran a test with everything in medium. The results were much better visuals but FPS was cut by about half. I also keep all those options at the bottom of the settings turned off. Most of them I don't know what they do but Grass I know is a big killer of FPS and every game I play I keep Grass turned off. Medium, I think I can live with but minimal had to go. The graphics were very bad.