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Thornblade (NA) has gone off the deep end
I normally don't say anything about this, not even when the AD oceanic guilds were able to steamroll both factions at night (every night) because no one was on, but this has gotten entirely out of hand.
I logged on today and behold what I saw:
"Surely, this must be a mistake" says I. "There must be some kind of bug with the scoreboard."
Nope.
I think we have reached the threshold where some balancing is in order.
Edited by Syre_Lancaster on August 25, 2014 11:08PM I logged on today and behold what I saw:
"Surely, this must be a mistake" says I. "There must be some kind of bug with the scoreboard."
Nope.
I think we have reached the threshold where some balancing is in order.
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✭Syre_Lancaster wrote: »
I think we have reached the threshold were some balancing is in order.
main issue of imbalance that i see there is that you need to collect more skyshards in the north and east - it will even things out on the map more
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✭sad thing is Ive met the oceanic AD crew and if you're not a door? ...they go arse up pretty easily.Edited by Tintinabula on August 25, 2014 8:23PM10 -
I honestly was enjoying the campaign there up until like a week ago. It was neck and neck and it felt like your contributions mattered and even when the enemy pulled ahead, it was because their players or strategy was better.
But like this? It just feels like the AD are using exploits to win. (Which, admittedly having a higher population at night is not really their fault, but it definitely means there is a balance issue)8 -
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✭✭This will be an ongoing issue as long as the majority of Aussies are AD.You earned the 500 LOLs badge.
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Huntler✭✭✭✭✭
✭Syre_Lancaster wrote: »
But like this? It just feels like the AD are using exploits to win. (Which, admittedly having a higher population at night is not really their fault, but it definitely means there is a balance issue)
How is having a night population exploiting? Did you seriously just say that? What did I just read.....
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Thechemicals✭✭✭✭✭Syre_Lancaster wrote: »I honestly was enjoying the campaign there up until like a week ago. It was neck and neck and it felt like your contributions mattered and even when the enemy pulled ahead, it was because their players or strategy was better.
But like this? It just feels like the AD are using exploits to win. (Which, admittedly having a higher population at night is not really their fault, but it definitely means there is a balance issue)
The campaign has very close for 20 days.....then all of a sudden AD becomes what? Godlike....lol.Vr14 Templar since release- dual resto
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Huntler✭✭✭✭✭
✭Syre_Lancaster wrote: »
What you followed with means nothing, you still claimed AD is exploiting and that they have no control over it... having more people isn't exploiting... it means you have more people.... I.... I don't even know what to say.8 -
Thechemicals wrote: »The campaign has very close for 20 days.....then all of a sudden AD becomes what? Godlike....lol.
Aye, rumour is that the major EP guild that held the AD in check at night quit, disbanded or otherwise gave up
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"Feels like" and "is" are two very different statements, mate. Pay attention to the adverbs. If I was accusing AD of exploiting, I'd say it flat out.2
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If the system for underdogs to get enhanced rewards for things they contributed on their campaign was in then the player base may not have shifted so heavily to 1 side.
I really don't see how you are going to stop this from happening. As long as there is a server that doesn't stay locked 24/7 then there will always be some faction imbalance.3 -
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✭Syre_Lancaster wrote: »"Feels like" and "is" are two very different statements, mate. Pay attention to the adverbs. If I was accusing AD of exploiting, I'd say it flat out.
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✭darkdruidssb14_ESO wrote: »If the system for underdogs to get enhanced rewards for things they contributed on their campaign was in then the player base may not have shifted so heavily to 1 side.
I really don't see how you are going to stop this from happening. As long as there is a server that doesn't stay locked 24/7 then there will always be some faction imbalance.
Welcome to any PvP game... ever... you know how you deal with it? You just play the game and not worry about it.
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darkdruidssb14_ESO wrote: »If the system for underdogs to get enhanced rewards for things they contributed on their campaign was in then the player base may not have shifted so heavily to 1 side.
I really don't see how you are going to stop this from happening. As long as there is a server that doesn't stay locked 24/7 then there will always be some faction imbalance.
Welcome to any PvP game... ever... you know how you deal with it? You just play the game and not worry about it.
I'm not worried about it. I was telling the OP this will always be the case.3 -
Huntler✭✭✭✭✭
✭darkdruidssb14_ESO wrote: »darkdruidssb14_ESO wrote: »If the system for underdogs to get enhanced rewards for things they contributed on their campaign was in then the player base may not have shifted so heavily to 1 side.
I really don't see how you are going to stop this from happening. As long as there is a server that doesn't stay locked 24/7 then there will always be some faction imbalance.
Welcome to any PvP game... ever... you know how you deal with it? You just play the game and not worry about it.
I'm not worried about it. I was telling the OP this will always be the case.
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How does it feel like AD is exploiting.... that word has no business being used at all in the context of any of your statements
I thought my words were very reasonable and calm for the situation. And technically the AD are exploiting the fact that no one from the other factions are on at night to flip the map. They aren't exploiting a bug in the code, but they are capitalizing on the situation.
It's a lot like gerrymandering in politics, although its not against the rules, but it does stack the deck unfairly in their favour.
So yes, exploiting would be an apropos term in this context.
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@Syre_Lancaster if it helps you sleep at night. Think of Cyrodiil as "Who's line is it anyway".. the TV show... "the show where everything's made up and the points don't matter".
Cyrodiil is made up and outside of the game the points don't matter. Just play to have fun.. because it is a game.Edited by darkdruidssb14_ESO on August 25, 2014 8:50PM7 -
A certain amount of variance is to be expected for sure, but like all systems, you expect some level of homeostasis. If the scales tip too far one way or another the results are catastrophic. (I.E. People quit playing, lost subs=lost money)Edited by Syre_Lancaster on August 25, 2014 8:52PM4
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✭✭darkdruidssb14_ESO wrote: »@Syre_Lancaster if it helps you sleep at night. Think of Cyrodiil as "Who's line is it anyway".. the TV show... "the show where everything's made up and the points don't matter".
Cyrodiil is made up and outside of the game the points don't matter. Just play to have fun.. because it is a game.
Points matter bro. Points matter. If not points, then what? What is best in life? Points.You earned the 500 LOLs badge.
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Who cares, theres no meaning in cyrodiil. Fighting here or there it's all the same.
Can't wait for Camelot Unchained.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on how Camelot Unchained will concur this issue. It's the same issue that Planetside 2 has and every other large scale PvP MMO that I have played.
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Jaxom✭✭✭✭darkdruidssb14_ESO wrote: »@Syre_Lancaster if it helps you sleep at night. Think of Cyrodiil as "Who's line is it anyway".. the TV show... "the show where everything's made up and the points don't matter".
Cyrodiil is made up and outside of the game the points don't matter. Just play to have fun.. because it is a game.
Points matter bro. Points matter. If not points, then what? What is best in life? Points.
The points won't matter when the Imperial City is released. All that will matter is that you hold the majority of the keeps so you hold the city. Everything else will be not as important. You get some more gold after 30 days for being in "first". meh. You can make that gold faster creating an alt and leveling to 20. As long as I can log in, not wait 2 hours in a queue and can accomplish something during my few hours on a night, I'm having fun. That's really all that matters in the end.Edited by Jaxom on August 25, 2014 8:59PM2 -
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✭darkdruidssb14_ESO wrote: »@Syre_Lancaster if it helps you sleep at night. Think of Cyrodiil as "Who's line is it anyway".. the TV show... "the show where everything's made up and the points don't matter".
Cyrodiil is made up and outside of the game the points don't matter. Just play to have fun.. because it is a game.
Points matter bro. Points matter. If not points, then what? What is best in life? Points.
You know, like having fun? Instead of this self-validating circle jerk people seem to be really into. Ef me for wanting to play a game just to have fun and compete against others.5 -
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✭Unfortunately, PvP needs to be restricted to 12 hours a day to avoid the lopsided time zone issue. During primetime when all populations are locked, things are very balanced. Once people get off for the night, then AD starts to steamroll.9 -
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✭s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »Unfortunately, PvP needs to be restricted to 12 hours a day to avoid the lopsided time zone issue. During primetime when all populations are locked, things are very balanced. Once people get off for the night, then AD starts to steamroll.
and so folks who work graveyard shifts or are on oceanic times paying their subs shouldn't be allowed to pvp?
i agree the system is unbalanced atm, but changing it to restricted hours doesn't address the root issue - pop locking a faction when it has 10% or 20% more players than the lowest pop faction would perhaps make more sense? - and even that creates it's own set of hassles
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