Technology sucks.... like, for real, man.

Ridicularded

Computer crashed today. I don't know why. Maybe I didn't properly lubricate it before use, but oh well. I won't be ramming my USB drive into the ports any time soon, that's for sure. Anyways, I'm stuck re-downloading ESO for the next... like.... 472 days. Should I let my beard grow until it's finished?

(But for real, any tips on getting my download speed up? I get between 2-4 mbps, but I pay for what's supposed to be 50)

Psychobunni

Closing all browsers and not trying to do anything else helps. Not picking lol, seriously make sure nothing un-necessary is running while you download. Possibly rebooting your modem/router and once you get this done, monitoring your speeds to make sure you are getting what is paid for.

Elad13

People forget their cell phones might auto connect...or if your going wireless other things factor in...so make sure your directly hardwired into modem from computer. Direct connect is all I do when dl or playing.

seaef

Ridicularded wrote: »

Computer crashed today. I don't know why. Maybe I didn't properly lubricate it before use, but oh well. I won't be ramming my USB drive into the ports any time soon, that's for sure. Anyways, I'm stuck re-downloading ESO for the next... like.... 472 days. Should I let my beard grow until it's finished?

(But for real, any tips on getting my download speed up? I get between 2-4 mbps, but I pay for what's supposed to be 50)

It doesn't matter how fast your Internet speed is, the download can only go as fast as the server you're retrieving it from can manage.

It's the main reason having the fastest connection possible is usually a waste of money.

kulganoz

You would only need to ‘re-download’ the entire game if, when your machine crashed is was due to a catastrophic HDD failure.

If you have your HDD and it’s still readable install it into your new setup and copy all game files across to your new /GAMES/ESO folder.

poodlemasterb16_ESO

GrimGryphon wrote: »

Ridicularded wrote: »

Computer crashed today. I don't know why. Maybe I didn't properly lubricate it before use, but oh well. I won't be ramming my USB drive into the ports any time soon, that's for sure. Anyways, I'm stuck re-downloading ESO for the next... like.... 472 days. Should I let my beard grow until it's finished?

(But for real, any tips on getting my download speed up? I get between 2-4 mbps, but I pay for what's supposed to be 50)

It doesn't matter how fast your Internet speed is, the download can only go as fast as the server you're retrieving it from can manage.

It's the main reason having the fastest connection possible is usually a waste of money.

Not even close. It's coming off a hard drive on the server. The network connection is the entire ball of wax when it comes to speed.

People develop funny ideas, that's for sure.

DuelWieldingCheesyPoofs

If you have a mobile phone you can tether with use that its much much faster for some reason, try it.

Fleymark

Ridicularded wrote: »

Computer crashed today. I don't know why. Maybe I didn't properly lubricate it before use, but oh well. I won't be ramming my USB drive into the ports any time soon, that's for sure. Anyways, I'm stuck re-downloading ESO for the next... like.... 472 days. Should I let my beard grow until it's finished?

(But for real, any tips on getting my download speed up? I get between 2-4 mbps, but I pay for what's supposed to be 50)

The posters above are correct...Whatever you connect to will bottle neck your speeds if it is slow.

If you want to try to make sure things on your end aren't bottlenecking you you can do a few things...Using a gigabyte (or is it gigabit?) router and NIC card....make sure you have the latest firmware updates. And make sure you are using cat-5e cables not just regular cat-5. If you really want to go crazy go with cat-6 cables but they are pricey and probably won't do much for you other than just eliminate that as a possible bottleneck. Maybe not too bad if you are just doing it with one machine.

The above was recommended to me by a friend who works in networking because my local fiber provider boasts "the fastest internet in the country" and offers really cheap broadband. I was subscribed to the middle tier (forget the speeds for that offhand) which was super fast but then last fall dropped their rates and gave everyone with higher than the lowest tier the gig package for the same price. I noticed no real change in speeds on any practical level although speed tests started running higher. Even with those, I still never come close to even getting 1/3 of that. I'm sure it's a gig somewhere in the pipeline but it's definitely not by the time it gets here. Lol

My router is rated for a gig but I'm not crazy about it and it's a few years old. I bought some cat 6 cables just to see what I could squeeze out but decided to just deal with it when I build a new box in the spring probably.

Sorry to ramble...I guess my point is, I agree with the others....A good broadband package is worth having, but no need to go crazy because even if you eliminate everything that could slow a connection down on your end goodwill still be at the mercy of everything else being slow.

poodlemasterb16_ESO

Fleymark wrote: »

Ridicularded wrote: »

Computer crashed today. I don't know why. Maybe I didn't properly lubricate it before use, but oh well. I won't be ramming my USB drive into the ports any time soon, that's for sure. Anyways, I'm stuck re-downloading ESO for the next... like.... 472 days. Should I let my beard grow until it's finished?

(But for real, any tips on getting my download speed up? I get between 2-4 mbps, but I pay for what's supposed to be 50)

The posters above are correct...Whatever you connect to will bottle neck your speeds if it is slow.

If you want to try to make sure things on your end aren't bottlenecking you you can do a few things...Using a gigabyte (or is it gigabit?) router and NIC card....make sure you have the latest firmware updates. And make sure you are using cat-5e cables not just regular cat-5. If you really want to go crazy go with cat-6 cables but they are pricey and probably won't do much for you other than just eliminate that as a possible bottleneck. Maybe not too bad if you are just doing it with one machine.

The above was recommended to me by a friend who works in networking because my local fiber provider boasts "the fastest internet in the country" and offers really cheap broadband. I was subscribed to the middle tier (forget the speeds for that offhand) which was super fast but then last fall dropped their rates and gave everyone with higher than the lowest tier the gig package for the same price. I noticed no real change in speeds on any practical level although speed tests started running higher. Even with those, I still never come close to even getting 1/3 of that. I'm sure it's a gig somewhere in the pipeline but it's definitely not by the time it gets here. Lol

My router is rated for a gig but I'm not crazy about it and it's a few years old. I bought some cat 6 cables just to see what I could squeeze out but decided to just deal with it when I build a new box in the spring probably.

Sorry to ramble...I guess my point is, I agree with the others....A good broadband package is worth having, but no need to go crazy because even if you eliminate everything that could slow a connection down on your end goodwill still be at the mercy of everything else being slow.

More ignorance. Still it's just lack of knowledge, that's what ignorance is.

Ridicularded

kulganoz wrote: »

You would only need to ‘re-download’ the entire game if, when your machine crashed is was due to a catastrophic HDD failure.

If you have your HDD and it’s still readable install it into your new setup and copy all game files across to your new /GAMES/ESO folder.

I tried to restore, but I couldn't find any backups. So I just went ahead and started from scratch.

Fleymark

poodlemasterb16_ESO wrote: »

Fleymark wrote: »

Ridicularded wrote: »

Computer crashed today. I don't know why. Maybe I didn't properly lubricate it before use, but oh well. I won't be ramming my USB drive into the ports any time soon, that's for sure. Anyways, I'm stuck re-downloading ESO for the next... like.... 472 days. Should I let my beard grow until it's finished?

(But for real, any tips on getting my download speed up? I get between 2-4 mbps, but I pay for what's supposed to be 50)

The posters above are correct...Whatever you connect to will bottle neck your speeds if it is slow.

If you want to try to make sure things on your end aren't bottlenecking you you can do a few things...Using a gigabyte (or is it gigabit?) router and NIC card....make sure you have the latest firmware updates. And make sure you are using cat-5e cables not just regular cat-5. If you really want to go crazy go with cat-6 cables but they are pricey and probably won't do much for you other than just eliminate that as a possible bottleneck. Maybe not too bad if you are just doing it with one machine.

The above was recommended to me by a friend who works in networking because my local fiber provider boasts "the fastest internet in the country" and offers really cheap broadband. I was subscribed to the middle tier (forget the speeds for that offhand) which was super fast but then last fall dropped their rates and gave everyone with higher than the lowest tier the gig package for the same price. I noticed no real change in speeds on any practical level although speed tests started running higher. Even with those, I still never come close to even getting 1/3 of that. I'm sure it's a gig somewhere in the pipeline but it's definitely not by the time it gets here. Lol

My router is rated for a gig but I'm not crazy about it and it's a few years old. I bought some cat 6 cables just to see what I could squeeze out but decided to just deal with it when I build a new box in the spring probably.

Sorry to ramble...I guess my point is, I agree with the others....A good broadband package is worth having, but no need to go crazy because even if you eliminate everything that could slow a connection down on your end goodwill still be at the mercy of everything else being slow.

More ignorance. Still it's just lack of knowledge, that's what ignorance is.

Lol huh? It's "ignorant" to eliminate bottlenecks? Or the part where I pretty much agreed with your earlier post. I was just describing what I've experienced on my end with a super fast connection.

Instead of being a turd, care to offer some actual info?

Either way, get over yourself.

seaef

poodlemasterb16_ESO wrote: »

GrimGryphon wrote: »

Ridicularded wrote: »

Computer crashed today. I don't know why. Maybe I didn't properly lubricate it before use, but oh well. I won't be ramming my USB drive into the ports any time soon, that's for sure. Anyways, I'm stuck re-downloading ESO for the next... like.... 472 days. Should I let my beard grow until it's finished?

(But for real, any tips on getting my download speed up? I get between 2-4 mbps, but I pay for what's supposed to be 50)

It doesn't matter how fast your Internet speed is, the download can only go as fast as the server you're retrieving it from can manage.

It's the main reason having the fastest connection possible is usually a waste of money.

Not even close. It's coming off a hard drive on the server. The network connection is the entire ball of wax when it comes to speed.

People develop funny ideas, that's for sure.

That's what I said. If the server on the other end has slower bandwidth, then that as fast as it gets. *boggle*

Fleymark

GrimGryphon wrote: »

poodlemasterb16_ESO wrote: »

GrimGryphon wrote: »

Ridicularded wrote: »

Computer crashed today. I don't know why. Maybe I didn't properly lubricate it before use, but oh well. I won't be ramming my USB drive into the ports any time soon, that's for sure. Anyways, I'm stuck re-downloading ESO for the next... like.... 472 days. Should I let my beard grow until it's finished?

(But for real, any tips on getting my download speed up? I get between 2-4 mbps, but I pay for what's supposed to be 50)

It doesn't matter how fast your Internet speed is, the download can only go as fast as the server you're retrieving it from can manage.

It's the main reason having the fastest connection possible is usually a waste of money.

Not even close. It's coming off a hard drive on the server. The network connection is the entire ball of wax when it comes to speed.

People develop funny ideas, that's for sure.

That's what I said. If the server on the other end has slower bandwidth, then that as fast as it gets. *boggle*

Pretty much what I said, too.

Give a nerd an inch to nitpick something like this and, guaranteed, they will take all of the wedgies and beatings they took in Jr high out on you.

seaef

Fleymark wrote: »

Pretty much what I said, too.

Give a nerd an inch to nitpick something like this and, guaranteed, they will take all of the wedgies and beatings they took in Jr high out on you.

You should stop doing that then.

poodlemasterb16_ESO

GrimGryphon wrote: »

poodlemasterb16_ESO wrote: »

GrimGryphon wrote: »

Ridicularded wrote: »

Computer crashed today. I don't know why. Maybe I didn't properly lubricate it before use, but oh well. I won't be ramming my USB drive into the ports any time soon, that's for sure. Anyways, I'm stuck re-downloading ESO for the next... like.... 472 days. Should I let my beard grow until it's finished?

(But for real, any tips on getting my download speed up? I get between 2-4 mbps, but I pay for what's supposed to be 50)

It doesn't matter how fast your Internet speed is, the download can only go as fast as the server you're retrieving it from can manage.

It's the main reason having the fastest connection possible is usually a waste of money.

Not even close. It's coming off a hard drive on the server. The network connection is the entire ball of wax when it comes to speed.

People develop funny ideas, that's for sure.

That's what I said. If the server on the other end has slower bandwidth, then that as fast as it gets. *boggle*

Wow. The point of servers is to serve stuff. They are, especially ZOS servers, on very high bandwidth networks just because of this. Ain't noone serving off anything even close to how slow you are.

Your home connection to the local network will be the slowest part of the entire thing. The local network varies but is typically at least 10 times faster and usually much faster than any customer connection. That network hooks into very fast backbones that are an order of magnitude faster. They are what move the data around the world. The better the connection you have to your ISP's network the faster your network bandwidth will be. That is what you pay for.

Now there are all kinds of things that screw up this ideal world, these days router problems of all kinds, including one fundamental one, are usually what slows your packets down. It's one reason I try to get people to connect directly to remove your router from the equation. I have one and use it only when I get a new phone. A month is usually enough wifi for my needs. That certainly introduces several latencies but really does not affect RAW speed much. The rest of the routers on your connection are out of your control and you have to pray those idiots got it right.

I could go on for a long time, networks were my toy for many years.

Rodario

GrimGryphon wrote: »

Ridicularded wrote: »

Computer crashed today. I don't know why. Maybe I didn't properly lubricate it before use, but oh well. I won't be ramming my USB drive into the ports any time soon, that's for sure. Anyways, I'm stuck re-downloading ESO for the next... like.... 472 days. Should I let my beard grow until it's finished?

(But for real, any tips on getting my download speed up? I get between 2-4 mbps, but I pay for what's supposed to be 50)

It doesn't matter how fast your Internet speed is, the download can only go as fast as the server you're retrieving it from can manage.

It's the main reason having the fastest connection possible is usually a waste of money.

I don't know about that, in ESO's case. I get 2.47 MB/s, which is exactly what I pay for.

Zubba

GrimGryphon wrote: »

Ridicularded wrote: »

Computer crashed today. I don't know why. Maybe I didn't properly lubricate it before use, but oh well. I won't be ramming my USB drive into the ports any time soon, that's for sure. Anyways, I'm stuck re-downloading ESO for the next... like.... 472 days. Should I let my beard grow until it's finished?

(But for real, any tips on getting my download speed up? I get between 2-4 mbps, but I pay for what's supposed to be 50)

It doesn't matter how fast your Internet speed is, the download can only go as fast as the server you're retrieving it from can manage.

It's the main reason having the fastest connection possible is usually a waste of money.

True. But I can tell you the game download servers is delivering way way over the speed hes currently getting.

AlexDougherty

Ridicularded wrote: »

kulganoz wrote: »

You would only need to ‘re-download’ the entire game if, when your machine crashed is was due to a catastrophic HDD failure.

If you have your HDD and it’s still readable install it into your new setup and copy all game files across to your new /GAMES/ESO folder.

I tried to restore, but I couldn't find any backups. So I just went ahead and started from scratch.

You have to make a back-up occassionally if you want one to restore too.

Windows does comes with a back-up function, it takes some time, and you need something to save the back-up to (don't back-up onto the hard-drive you're backing up), but you really need to do this at least once a year.

BulbousMeathead

Ridicularded wrote: »

(But for real, any tips on getting my download speed up? I get between 2-4 mbps, but I pay for what's supposed to be 50)

Do you mean that you are getting 2-4 MegaBytes / sec (big 'B' ) or 2-4 Megabits /sec (little 'b' ) ? If it is the former, then that is a good speed, and it is about what you would expect in practice for a 50Mbps ( ie 50 megabits / sec ) service.

Ragefist

its fairly easy, start downloading, go to work, when you come back all will be done

mips_winnt

poodlemasterb16_ESO wrote: »

Your home connection to the local network will be the slowest part of the entire thing.

This isn't necessarily true... between any two points across the public network there are a variable number of links dictated by the logical topology between point A and point B, generally speaking ISP exterior routing protocols (BGP) attempts to optimize this topology (when going from AS to AS) and ISPs use interior routing protocols to optimize their internal topology but for any given connection the maximum potential bandwidth (bits per sec) is dictated by the SLOWEST link in the path, so for example if both ends of a given connection are say 100Mbs but they have a 1Kbps link in the path between them the maximum potential bandwidth between them will be 1Kbps, if you want to actually glimpse of this, do a trace route (tracert on windows) to the host in question, you'll see the each router hop in the path (unless of course a given hop is blocking ICMP) as well as the round trip latency.

Case in point is a TCP connection so it's further impacted by latency given the fact that TCP is connection oriented and requires that each packet sent be acknowledged from the other side, meaning that the connection will spend a variable amount of time idle waiting for acknowledgements (the higher the latency and the smaller the sliding windows the more idle time), idle time means less bandwidth (since bandwidth is measured as a given number of bits per second).

Actual bandwidth will also be affected by the end point hosts themselves since they have do packet assembly/disassembly available processing time to do this will affect how fast each side can send and receive data (this is also true for every intermediate host along the path (i.e. routers, switches, bridges, gateways,firewalls, etc..,).

The point of all this is, that when speaking of network performance between any two points on the public Internet there are a number of variables that come into play and without having all those accounted for there is no way to determine where a bottleneck might be for any given connection, all that can be done is attempting to eliminate the most common ones by trial and error.

Mondo

Ridicularded wrote: »

. Should I let my beard grow until it's finished?

Real Man already have beards!

DieAlteHexe

More ignorance. Still it's just lack of knowledge, that's what ignorance is.

Less snark, more helpful information please.

Soulharvester

Sorry to hear that, thats gotta be harsh, at least they have the servers down so its not too bad.

Im sure someone mentioned above me, but what worked for me was a few things I learned in school. Bandwidth mitigation, if you have like 8 iphones connected or other systems on, I shut all mine down.

It still crawled but I had the added satisfaction that I did something!

Can always call your ISP, good luck btw, mines ATT, stop laughing!

Sometimes I Get lucky! As in, a nice person shares some knowledge outside the little notes they read on the screen. One time actually had a technician come to our flat and did all sorts of rewiring, totally reconnected my wire monster of a sound system and TV, shared some stories, fun guy.

Then I got the bill.... But it was worth it to have it working as intended and had a few laughs all the same.

He showed me various sights that propose this is your speed, but he told me to pick the one closest to my ISP which is in the city. At 3am, the lil network properties showed 54mbps. When I checked that website, it showed 8mbps. 8mps download, at 5pm, I had 3mbps lol.

There was this one thing he told me about when we were watching a game, it was dual channel router or something like that, its the one where its in the 5ghz range.

Cause sometimes people around me had switched over to N band routing. But I am better with a club and just beat the router with it than actually knowing anything past that so.

Then you have the other factor, other people also downloading the game.

For future reference, I would probably do this, get ya a flash drive, they not too bad on price, save it on there and then do a backup. Back it up to a storage unit, really anything you wanna keep in case the computer decides to go skynet on ya.

I also found when this stuff happens to me, I end up reading all my installation manuals and man I learn all kinds of stuff, now I know what to do with all these extra parts for my stuff! lol

Peace and good luck!

Ridicularded

Mondo wrote: »

Ridicularded wrote: »

. Should I let my beard grow until it's finished?

Real Man already have beards!

I keep it under 2 inches for my job, but this may warrant an exception.

Ridicularded

BulbousMeathead wrote: »

Ridicularded wrote: »

(But for real, any tips on getting my download speed up? I get between 2-4 mbps, but I pay for what's supposed to be 50)

Do you mean that you are getting 2-4 MegaBytes / sec (big 'B' ) or 2-4 Megabits /sec (little 'b' ) ? If it is the former, then that is a good speed, and it is about what you would expect in practice for a 50Mbps ( ie 50 megabits / sec ) service.

Bites, not bits. It's probably on my end, but nothing I've tried ever gets it over 5. My router is a lynksis wireless N, but my laptop is a bit old. Not sure whether that would really affect it though.

Xeres14

It sounds like a good deal of your issue may be between your laptop and your router. If your wireless card is old, it'll only download at the max your wireless card will allow.

purple-magicb16_ESO

Agree. I had to redownload b4 2. It sucks. They shd allow people to create their own backup disks. Downloading for 4 days is complete insanity! TBH if I had to do it again, I would seriiusly reconsider my sub. It's that bad.

Ridicularded

purple-magicb16_ESO wrote: »

Agree. I had to redownload b4 2. It sucks. They shd allow people to create their own backup disks. Downloading for 4 days is complete insanity! TBH if I had to do it again, I would seriiusly reconsider my sub. It's that bad.

Luckily, I found my million foot Ethernet cable and plugged it straight in. That brought it up to 7-8 megabytes/sec. So it only took about 24 hours to finish.

Ridicularded

Xeres14 wrote: »

It sounds like a good deal of your issue may be between your laptop and your router. If your wireless card is old, it'll only download at the max your wireless card will allow.

That's probably it. I have a 2 year old HP laptop, it's got good specs, but it's definitely not the best.

kitsinni

Ridicularded wrote: »

BulbousMeathead wrote: »

Ridicularded wrote: »

(But for real, any tips on getting my download speed up? I get between 2-4 mbps, but I pay for what's supposed to be 50)

Do you mean that you are getting 2-4 MegaBytes / sec (big 'B' ) or 2-4 Megabits /sec (little 'b' ) ? If it is the former, then that is a good speed, and it is about what you would expect in practice for a 50Mbps ( ie 50 megabits / sec ) service.

Bites, not bits. It's probably on my end, but nothing I've tried ever gets it over 5. My router is a lynksis wireless N, but my laptop is a bit old. Not sure whether that would really affect it though.

5 mB/s is the equivalent of 40 mb/s and internet packages always list the speed in mb/s. It is rare to get the entire throughput. Also your download speed will always be limited on how fast they are feeding it to you.