Play your own way.

gimpdrb14_ESO

play the way you want to play just as long as the way you want to play is wearing light armor and a staff. Seriously with all these complaints why cant someone form zos get on here and just let us know they heard us.

Road2insanity777

They won't

Sallington

Because people are doing fine wearing medium and heavy armors?

Why don't you give us more detail about your experiences that brought you to this conclusion? I'm assuming you have some details if you thought it was worth starting a thread over.

Super_Sonico

I don't use light armor or a staff and I can kill everything just fine. I'm feared in PvP. Your argument is invalid.

Of course you have to play within the structure of the game. Did you seriously think 'play your own way' meant that you were going to be allowed to kill bad guys with a 50BMG or a laser gun? No.

You should readjust your expectations (and attitude).

Audigy

My "tank" is using medium and heavy with a sword and shield - pretty much the worst thing you can do base don some peoples opinion

Yet I don't struggle at all, sure I do less damage than others but that's why I am a tank in first place. I get hit and don't hit myself so to speak

In dungeons true people can be angry about me as I don't pull my "weight" but that's only because they demand perfect DPS and not because my class suxx.

Its all about expectations to be honest, even at other MMOs a lot of people think tanks must do the most incredible DPS ever which is silly in my opinion.

mar1ano1987nrb18_ESO

I use medium armor , melee ..and im happy . I made a nighblade when all the people said that NB sucked ...and now im destroying everything in my way

Super_Sonico

mar1ano1987nrb18_ESO wrote: »

I use medium armor , melee ..and im happy . I made a nighblade when all the people said that NB sucked ...and now im destroying everything in my way

THIS.

andre.roques.3b14_ESO

I may not be VR12, but I have been playing my way 5H, 1L, and 1M sword+1H/ bow and have no issues but still on Silver VR areas (VR4 in Shadowfen atm).

I am wearing 5L+2M, now, specifically while I am leveling resto and class healing. I plan, by VR12-14, to be 50 in all three class skills, all three armor skills, sword and board, bow, and resto staff. I have a huge breadth of options including mage and fighter's guild skills.

I guess I don't see limitations imposed on my gameplay.

Sighlynce

This is my DK dual wield heavy/med armor toon and shes awesome to play
https://us.v-cdn.net/5020507/uploads/editor/gr/dulxrvf266y5.png

ers101284b14_ESO

I use melee Stamina build heavy armor and do fine. I may not be optimal but I choose to play how I want to. If you don't that is your choice,

GaldorP

The new medium armor passive, the updated set boni in patch 1.3.3., the raised soft caps for max stamina, stamina recovery, and weapon damage, have actually changed a lot for me.

I'm playing a stamina-based bow DK in full medium armor (1500 magicka and 2400 stamina). I can do 800 dps on single targets in veteran group dungeons without ultimate (more on undead and deadra), lots of AoE damage with Bombard-spam, and I never run out of stamina thanks to weapon crit/weapon power/stamina potions. I recently soloed the Kardala delve in Craglorn, including all 3 bosses. I'm doing great in PvP.

Arabth

When lvling atm you can do what you like i gess and you will survive all fine hell, the way i like to play and did when lvling for the most part on the templar was full heavy and 2h and bow, but when im now vet 12 to have a chance in groupes or large groupe content outside of pvp i have to go all light armor and reststaf dest, still im only halfbad dps, and to be frank that was not the way i would like to play my templar and the statment was not "play how you like. Until max lvl then go light and destro"

Resueht

I was worried after I first started with a 2H when people said 2H is terrible, but I manage my stamina pretty well and I do fine. Sure, my battles might take more than 2 seconds (heaven forbid!), but I'm having fun. I feel like "play your own way" is completely viable for those who just want to have fun without min-maxing.

AlnilamE

On my NB, I wear a combination of light and medium, based mostly on what mats I have available when crafting a set.

My sorc wears mostly light, and I recently made a Templar and a DK and they are both wearing heavy (though the Templar might change, not sure yet), with bits of light and medium if I don't have enough mats at their level to craft two full sets of heavy.

While some of your choices may make the game a bit harder, there is enough room for fine-tuning in each build that you can play the way you want.

Obscure

I'm still playing the way I want and I'm soloing Craglorn delves with a DW+Bow DK in full medium. Pure AoE spec. Not one skill on either bar is single target.

PvE build does not use:
•Dark Talons
•Standard
•Bat Swarm
•Lava Whip
•Reflective Scale

About the only thing it uses that every DK uses is Green Dragons Blood. For my PvP spec I use Reflective Scale, and if I'm out ganking I'll use Lava Whip (thing hits like an effin overloaded gravel truck from stealth). But otherwise, my main spec doesn't change.

Point is play your way, just don't ever expect "bad" to be viable. Now I know I'm not as optimal as a LA staff spec (like literally if all I change is going to Light for Medium and Resto instead of Bow I improve), but it's the sacrifice I make for a sub optimal play style. Is it rediculous that my DPS goes from around 500 with my medium armor Bow spec to over 700 (average really. I've gotten as high as 812) with a light armor Resto spec? Absolutely. Especially when you factor in much higher sustain, and no loss to survivability (actually more survivable).

It's imbalanced, yes, but it allows you to play as you want despite that. Yes the imbalance needs to be fixed, but even when it is, bad builds will still be bad builds no matter how much they fit your play style. Certain builds that are currently just viable stamina specs should be expected to become optimal in the future, but a build that isn't viable may never be in any length of time.

Araflin

As some people said in another thread earlier today, "Just because there are Wayshrines does not mean you have to use them". Their comment was directed at someone asking for fewer to make travelling and experiencing this lavish environment more of a reality and less of a point-to-point teleport. I can see both sides of that issue.

However, I know you can build and play any way you want to, with the right people with you, with the right attitude, or both.

Then again, I rarely pvp. But, I find a style I like to play and try. I read different builds on various sites. I try out different things expecting different results. I tried a few things that didn't work and found a few things that did. And I paid gold to respec. (A few times when it was cheap but before and after too).

I don't wear light armour, I don't use a staff. I manage respectably.

It's a GAME, a hobby, I personally like the challenge and puzzle of working stuff out. Find what you like and go with it. If that doesn't sit well with those you play with, find some who accept it. If you're pvp orientated then you have to accept that every rework will have you dancing a different tune - but that's the same for all competitive online games after a change (nerf / rebalance / rework / upgrade... whatever the change is labelled).

Ghenra

Play your own way: Dress + Staff

All the other ways are useless.

TESO: most unbalanced game ever, only playable for spamer AoE's noobs kids.

Play your own way.

Hadria

Ghenra wrote: »

Play your own way: Dress + Staff

All the other ways are useless.

TESO: most unbalanced game ever, only playable for spamer AoE's noobs kids.

Play your own way.

Wrong only playable for people who can't think for themselves so they think they have to follow what some min maxer elitist says is the only way to play.

Nestor

I have a HA DK with 1 H/S, no secondary weapon
I have a Sorc LA of course, Bow and Destro Staff
I have a NB MA 1H/S/Bow/Destro Staff. I just added the stick to the NB just to handle trash mobs, all his attacks are Melee otherwise. He is also not using the Bow right now.

I play each of these characters the way that I want to. The DK just charges in and wails on things. The Sorc snipes from afar and uses the Staff to take out the trash, the NB sneaks around and does Burst DPS. These are all the ways I want to play the characters. This was the vision I had for them before the game even went Beta.

Now, can I take any build and play it anyway I want to and be successful? No, it would be silly to expect that. Can I approach the game the way that I want and build a character to facilitate that approach? Yes. So, I can play the way that I want to.

PSLAnimal

Templar. Two-handed. Heavy armor.

Kickin' some ass.

Your argument is not only invalid, it's just plain silly.

DogFaceInBananaPatch

What is going on with these types of threads today? Is this a national Lamentation Day or something?

gimpdrb14_ESO

so you guys telling me that you would take a templar dps into aa wearing heavy armor and useing a staff with mostly stam abilities?

DenverRalphy

gimpdrb14_ESO wrote: »

so you guys telling me that you would take a templar dps into aa wearing heavy armor and useing a staff with mostly stam abilities?

What are asking exactly? Do we think it can't be done? Or that it won't produce the best results? Big difference.

UrQuan

They said you can play your own way. They never said that every single way people might want to play will always be equally effective.

Nestor

gimpdrb14_ESO wrote: »

so you guys telling me that you would take a templar dps into aa wearing heavy armor and useing a staff with mostly stam abilities?

Staffs don't use Stamina....

And, focusing on one aspect of the game that attracts players who want to complete the mission in the least time possible in the most efficient manner does you no good in your argument. Of course Trials people want to use a certain build, as it is certain type of activity that needs certain skills to achieve a goal. It would be like a farmer buying a Ferrari and complaining that he can't plow his fields with it. Or, a racer buying a tractor and wondering why everyone beats him to the first turn.

Specialized Activities require a specialized build. The game does not require or need a specialized build.

Artemiisia

I wanted to play naked, im furious !!! /sarcasms might have been used

khele23eb17_ESO

Super_Sonico wrote: »

I don't use light armor or a staff and I can kill everything just fine. I'm feared in PvP. Your argument is invalid.

Of course you have to play within the structure of the game. Did you seriously think 'play your own way' meant that you were going to be allowed to kill bad guys with a 50BMG or a laser gun? No.

You should readjust your expectations (and attitude).

And your sustained dps is what? Your aoe damage is what?

UrQuan wrote: »

They said you can play your own way. They never said that every single way people might want to play will always be equally effective.

Its not about every single way, its about basic fantasy archetypes.

DenverRalphy

gimpdrb14_ESO wrote: »

play the way you want to play just as long as the way you want to play is wearing light armor and a staff. Seriously with all these complaints why cant someone form zos get on here and just let us know they heard us.

You only need light armors and a staff if you're doing trials. It's the trials that needs to be fixed, not the general concept.

khele23eb17_ESO

DenverRalphy wrote: »

gimpdrb14_ESO wrote: »

play the way you want to play just as long as the way you want to play is wearing light armor and a staff. Seriously with all these complaints why cant someone form zos get on here and just let us know they heard us.

You only need light armors and a staff if you're doing trials. It's the trials that needs to be fixed, not the general concept.

So... you think that one type of build running out of resources very quickly while another type is able to go on at top dps forever should be fixed by changing the boss encounters? How exactly would you achieve that? Make every fight last less than 30 seconds?

Evergnar

Artemiisia wrote: »

I wanted to play naked, im furious !!! /sarcasms might have been used

I do play naked. It's a life changing experience.

Shunravi

gimpdrb14_ESO wrote: »

so you guys telling me that you would take a templar dps into aa wearing heavy armor and useing a staff with mostly stam abilities?

Only stam with a staff? So you mean only fighters guild stuff? I'd give it a good try.