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Hey Zenimax,
I understand you were just trying to fix issues with people pulling enemy players in keeps, but why do you seem to always take the lazy route? Below is a section of the 1.4 patch notes currently on the PTS.
•Revised the terrain around all keeps to reduce the potential for pulling an enemy friend onto keep walls using Fiery Grip or its morphs.
•While you are within the walls of larger keeps (such as Warden), the range of Fiery Grip and its morphs will be reduced.
The first update (revised terrain around all keeps) is a great fix. It wasn't lazy and I was completely ok with that, but the second update (shortened range of fiery grip while within keep walls) was just.... lazy and hurt the skill even more.
You already took the lazy route before and almost killed fiery grip entirely by making it so we couldn't pull players off keep walls anymore, but now you are shortening the range in certain situations. Why? What's next?
Please stop making lazy "fixes". Updates like this are what people get very upset about. Angry customers = small wallets *wink wink*
I understand you were just trying to fix issues with people pulling enemy players in keeps, but why do you seem to always take the lazy route? Below is a section of the 1.4 patch notes currently on the PTS.
•Revised the terrain around all keeps to reduce the potential for pulling an enemy friend onto keep walls using Fiery Grip or its morphs.
•While you are within the walls of larger keeps (such as Warden), the range of Fiery Grip and its morphs will be reduced.
The first update (revised terrain around all keeps) is a great fix. It wasn't lazy and I was completely ok with that, but the second update (shortened range of fiery grip while within keep walls) was just.... lazy and hurt the skill even more.
You already took the lazy route before and almost killed fiery grip entirely by making it so we couldn't pull players off keep walls anymore, but now you are shortening the range in certain situations. Why? What's next?
Please stop making lazy "fixes". Updates like this are what people get very upset about. Angry customers = small wallets *wink wink*
If you like small group PvP (2-4 players) and solo PvP check out my videohttps://youtube.com/watch?v=jechGImtFio
SPOILER: The first 40 seconds of the video contains a scene from the final Molag Bal boss fight!
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✭✭As I don't have a high level DK in PVP, I didn't want to complain about the range reduction thing, since my opinion holds little weight on that topic, but I must admit it sounded weird when I read it. Hindering a particular skill in a particular situation seems stupid to me at first glance.
Also worth noting is that I've done at least 40+ hours of PVP (I believe, wans't quite counting) and I don't think I've ever been grabbed by that spell except for very short ranges on level ground. Although it looks like they are trying to keep cross-faction exploiting down, from the wording.EP: Slania Isara : Harambe Was an Inside Job0 -
Emperor✭✭✭✭As I don't have a high level DK in PVP, I didn't want to complain about the range reduction thing, since my opinion holds little weight on that topic, but I must admit it sounded weird when I read it. Hindering a particular skill in a particular situation seems stupid to me at first glance.
Also worth noting is that I've done at least 40+ hours of PVP (I believe, wans't quite counting) and I don't think I've ever been grabbed by that spell except for very short ranges on level ground. Although it looks like they are trying to keep cross-faction exploiting down, from the wording.
Fiery grip used to be used by players a lot more, but they keep nerfing it and it had some issues after they eliminated the ability to pull players off walls (it wasn't pulling players unless you were on completely flat ground).
Anyway, there are players that still enjoy fiery grip and it is very useful for when DKs use their standard to pull players back into the ultimate, but the skill just keeps getting nerfed because of some silly exploiters...If you like small group PvP (2-4 players) and solo PvP check out my videohttps://youtube.com/watch?v=jechGImtFio
SPOILER: The first 40 seconds of the video contains a scene from the final Molag Bal boss fight!
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KitLightning✭✭✭✭Angry customers = small wallets *wink wink*
I guess I must be a very happy customer then
What's next?
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✭If they have control over the Y axis of spells why not just make it so that you can pull people off walls but not onto them? Seige warfare has lost an absolute critical element to it now - it's becoming so repeditive, predicable and boring that people almost don't bother setting up seige equipment anymore.- The Psijic Order
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✭✭✭✭✭Correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't the cheaters just move to using Silver Leash to pull players into keeps?1 -
Obscure✭✭✭✭✭Lazy fix is lazy.
ZOS is pro at halfassing fixes. Nothing new here. Yeah, it's stupid. Are they going to stop being stupid? Take a look at the rest of the patch notes...Nope! Plenty more stupid to go along with it.
Stay tuned for update 5 when ZOS will add more lazy and even more stupid to ESO!
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✭AlienDiplomat wrote: »Correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't the cheaters just move to using Silver Leash to pull players into keeps?
does that pull actually work on players? I remember someone complaining that it didn't.Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.0 -
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I think its supposed to be undead/deadra only; there was a patch a little while back that fixed it working on everything.smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »AlienDiplomat wrote: »Correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't the cheaters just move to using Silver Leash to pull players into keeps?
does that pull actually work on players? I remember someone complaining that it didn't.
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Emperor✭✭✭✭
I think its supposed to be undead/deadra only; there was a patch a little while back that fixed it working on everything.smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »AlienDiplomat wrote: »Correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't the cheaters just move to using Silver Leash to pull players into keeps?
does that pull actually work on players? I remember someone complaining that it didn't.
Yea, so it only works on vampire and werewolf playersIf you like small group PvP (2-4 players) and solo PvP check out my videohttps://youtube.com/watch?v=jechGImtFio
SPOILER: The first 40 seconds of the video contains a scene from the final Molag Bal boss fight!
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NerfEverything✭✭✭✭✭Any fix is better than no fix. Honestly they should have added a z-axis check way back in beta.0
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Emperor✭✭✭✭NerfEverything wrote: »Any fix is better than no fix. Honestly they should have added a z-axis check way back in beta.
Not true. If their "fix" just damages more than it fixes then it was not worth it.If you like small group PvP (2-4 players) and solo PvP check out my videohttps://youtube.com/watch?v=jechGImtFio
SPOILER: The first 40 seconds of the video contains a scene from the final Molag Bal boss fight!
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