Do AWAY with player names

adowen_ESO

Since the /tell function in this game is terrible....Is there any way to have all players use their @'name' in all chat messages? Due to the system not being very comprehensive, you are unable to /whisper name of many players... or if you happen to swap out characters and you dont get their @name it is near next to impossible to communicate with another player unless you send them ingame mail and hope they recieve the message quickly.

DenverRalphy

So... You want to be able to send a /tell to somebody who you're not friends with (otherwise you'd have their @accountname) to ensure that you can pester them whenever you wish. Even though they choose not to share that information with you. That's just wrong on so many levels.

If you want to message somebody in game, with the expectation that they will get the message right away, then friend them. Don't look for a mechanic that at least gives SOME form of anonymity when they want it.

nerevarine1138

I don't understand the problem. Don't switch characters if you're in the middle of a conversation.

Elsonso

There is no anonymity in this game. Your @playername is the only identity that matters. It has always been that way and that will never change.

In just about every way possible, @playername is more important than vestige name.

DenverRalphy

lordrichter wrote: »

There is no anonymity in this game. Your @playername is the only identity that matters. It has always been that way and that will never change.

In just about every way possible, @playername is more important than vestige name.

If a character chooses not to share their player name, then yes, there is some anonymity. Most would argue that it's not enough. So somebody looking towards removing even that small bit, is asking for A LOT.

Arsenic_Touch

DenverRalphy wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

There is no anonymity in this game. Your @playername is the only identity that matters. It has always been that way and that will never change.

In just about every way possible, @playername is more important than vestige name.

If a character chooses not to share their player name, then yes, there is some anonymity. Most would argue that it's not enough. So somebody looking towards removing even that small bit, is asking for A LOT.

Except players don't choose to not share their name, there is no choice. Ignoring someone shows it, adding them to your friend's list shows it, and it shows it in the clan. There is no anonymity in this game. The tell system needs work.

DenverRalphy

Incidentally, and I'm loath to say this... There IS a way to get a character's player name without having to friend them or be in the same guild. I've /bug'd it in game a few times. But it's yet to be addressed/fixed.

Nox_Aeterna

Haha no , im quite happy with my chars name thank you.

McDonuts

Just put a comma after their name. For example: /w johndoe,

adowen_ESO

It has nothing to do with anonymity...It interferes with ease of conversation... For example, While I am playing on an alt, I see someone selling an item I need or want, so i /message that person.... thye agree to sell me the item, but to save CoD fee We both agree that I will log into my main character or vice versa to perform the transaction.....Upon logging into my main character I forgot to grab the @ name which I have yet to run across a player that isn't willing to provide that...Now I can't /whisper the player and I wasted my time as well as theirs.

DenverRalphy

Arsenic_Touch wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

There is no anonymity in this game. Your @playername is the only identity that matters. It has always been that way and that will never change.

In just about every way possible, @playername is more important than vestige name.

If a character chooses not to share their player name, then yes, there is some anonymity. Most would argue that it's not enough. So somebody looking towards removing even that small bit, is asking for A LOT.

Except players don't choose to not share their name, there is no choice. Ignoring someone shows it, adding them to your friend's list shows it, and it shows it in the clan. There is no anonymity in this game. The tell system needs work.

Kudos for advertising how to get another player's account name, despite what those players would prefer. Good job, I'm sure many will be grateful.

Arsenic_Touch

DenverRalphy wrote: »

Kudos for advertising how to get another player's account name, despite what those players would prefer. Good job, I'm sure many will be grateful.

Ha, as if other players didn't realize by now that the ignore system is based on account names not player names. I mean the whole @ next to each name was a dead giveway. Good job wasting ZoS' time with reports for functions that are working as intended though.

DenverRalphy

adowen_ESO wrote: »

It has nothing to do with anonymity...It interferes with ease of conversation... For example, While I am playing on an alt, I see someone selling an item I need or want, so i /message that person.... thye agree to sell me the item, but to save CoD fee We both agree that I will log into my main character or vice versa to perform the transaction.....Upon logging into my main character I forgot to grab the @ name which I have yet to run across a player that isn't willing to provide that...Now I can't /whisper the player and I wasted my time as well as theirs.

That's all on you for forgetting to take note. And even then, if you didn't take the time to take note of their character name, what use would their player name be to you? Because obviously you wouldn't have had that either.

adowen_ESO

There is no privacy with the @ in the name... the @ is very easily obtainable, and its a nuisance to have to deal with. If people want their @ kept a secret, then ESO should have thought of a better /whisper system that utilizes a players name rather than their @ name... But with how it is currently set up, and if ESO plans to keep the messaging system the way it is, they need to start changing all players name in chat dialoge to reflect the @ name, because it is very annoying...The character name is more secretive and harder to whisper than an @ name.

nerevarine1138

adowen_ESO wrote: »

It has nothing to do with anonymity...It interferes with ease of conversation... For example, While I am playing on an alt, I see someone selling an item I need or want, so i /message that person.... thye agree to sell me the item, but to save CoD fee We both agree that I will log into my main character or vice versa to perform the transaction.....Upon logging into my main character I forgot to grab the @ name which I have yet to run across a player that isn't willing to provide that...Now I can't /whisper the player and I wasted my time as well as theirs.

So stop forgetting to get their account name. Problem solved.

adowen_ESO

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

adowen_ESO wrote: »

It has nothing to do with anonymity...It interferes with ease of conversation... For example, While I am playing on an alt, I see someone selling an item I need or want, so i /message that person.... thye agree to sell me the item, but to save CoD fee We both agree that I will log into my main character or vice versa to perform the transaction.....Upon logging into my main character I forgot to grab the @ name which I have yet to run across a player that isn't willing to provide that...Now I can't /whisper the player and I wasted my time as well as theirs.

So stop forgetting to get their account name. Problem solved.

Wow! We've got a cave troll!!!

nerevarine1138

adowen_ESO wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

adowen_ESO wrote: »

It has nothing to do with anonymity...It interferes with ease of conversation... For example, While I am playing on an alt, I see someone selling an item I need or want, so i /message that person.... thye agree to sell me the item, but to save CoD fee We both agree that I will log into my main character or vice versa to perform the transaction.....Upon logging into my main character I forgot to grab the @ name which I have yet to run across a player that isn't willing to provide that...Now I can't /whisper the player and I wasted my time as well as theirs.

So stop forgetting to get their account name. Problem solved.

Wow! We've got a cave troll!!!

I'm sorry, did I misunderstand the problem?

You keep forgetting to get the players' account names before switching characters. If you stop forgetting, there's no more problem. ZO doesn't need to adjust the game to make up for your personal attention span issues.

adowen_ESO

It has nothing to do with attention span, it's all about having a user friendly interface. Sounds like you have an issue with attention span or seeing the obvious issue with their system here.

DenverRalphy

adowen_ESO wrote: »

There is no privacy with the @ in the name... the @ is very easily obtainable, and its a nuisance to have to deal with. If people want their @ kept a secret, then ESO should have thought of a better /whisper system that utilizes a players name rather than their @ name... But with how it is currently set up, and if ESO plans to keep the messaging system the way it is, they need to start changing all players name in chat dialoge to reflect the @ name, because it is very annoying...The character name is more secretive and harder to whisper than an @ name.

So basically (according to all of your posts in this thread) you're saying that you want a way for ESO to magically determine who you're trying to message. By your own example, you forgot to take note of the person with whom you were corresponding. What difference would it make whether you forgot the character name or account name?

adowen_ESO

I can remember character names Damn well thank you... It has nothing with forgetting a name. They need to have the @ name listed in place of their character name or alongside so that when switching between characters you can easily message them.

DenverRalphy

adowen_ESO wrote: »

I can remember character names Damn well thank you... It has nothing with forgetting a name. They need to have the @ name listed in place of their character name or alongside so that when switching between characters you can easily message them.

Still doesn't make sense. If you're logged in, and chatting with "Krull the Destroyer', then log out and back in with an alt, you can still message" Krull the Destroyer". In fact, any character in game can.

adowen_ESO

DenverRalphy wrote: »

adowen_ESO wrote: »

I can remember character names Damn well thank you... It has nothing with forgetting a name. They need to have the @ name listed in place of their character name or alongside so that when switching between characters you can easily message them.

Still doesn't make sense. If you're logged in, and chatting with "Krull the Destroyer', then log out and back in with an alt, you can still message" Krull the Destroyer". In fact, any character in game can.

This is not the case. This is the case if "Krull the Destroyer" player is on your friends list or within your guild though.

nerevarine1138

adowen_ESO wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

adowen_ESO wrote: »

I can remember character names Damn well thank you... It has nothing with forgetting a name. They need to have the @ name listed in place of their character name or alongside so that when switching between characters you can easily message them.

Still doesn't make sense. If you're logged in, and chatting with "Krull the Destroyer', then log out and back in with an alt, you can still message" Krull the Destroyer". In fact, any character in game can.

This is not the case. This is the case if "Krull the Destroyer" player is on your friends list or within your guild though.

Actually, you're mistaken. The only instance where you can't message a character directly in that instance is when it's cross-faction chat. If they're the same faction, there's no problem.

DenverRalphy

adowen_ESO wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

adowen_ESO wrote: »

I can remember character names Damn well thank you... It has nothing with forgetting a name. They need to have the @ name listed in place of their character name or alongside so that when switching between characters you can easily message them.

Still doesn't make sense. If you're logged in, and chatting with "Krull the Destroyer', then log out and back in with an alt, you can still message" Krull the Destroyer". In fact, any character in game can.

This is not the case. This is the case if "Krull the Destroyer" player is on your friends list or within your guild though.

Yes it is the case. You don't have to be friends or a guild mate to message anybody. Earlier you also specifically mentioned forgetting to note who it was you were talking to. Your whole issue comes down to the simple matter of not writing down a name. Whether it was their character name, or their account name, you forgot to note it. That simple. Appending every player's account name to their character name in chat doesn't mean squat if you don't even take the time to make a note of it.

Erlindur

I wonder about something else. Security. My account is protected by BOTH my password and my account name. Giving away half of the equation seems like a very poor decision.

Let me give you an example. When you log, you are using "secure http". Encrypted http. If someone gets that info (username,password) you send, by some way, must spend a lot of computer time to crack that encryption. Has anyone calculated how much easier is to decrypt something, when you actually know part of the encrypted data?

The whole thing with our account names, seems very amateurish approach.

Woolenthreads

I can kind of see a point, but I think it's fine as it is.

I have 11 Alts, 8 on NA 3 on EU with a guild on each. I had a couple of guild requests for trait equipment but the traits were on equipment by a different Alt. I failed to record their @ and switched Alts then realised I didn't know who to send it to. I asked in guild but I guess they'd gone offline or something. Instead I shrugged and logged into the Alt I'd been playing and trained the trait.

That, I see as a failure of communications between myself and my Guild Mate. No need to fix the system,

Elsonso

Erlindur wrote: »

I wonder about something else. Security. My account is protected by BOTH my password and my account name. Giving away half of the equation seems like a very poor decision.

This horse is beaten, dead, and buried.

There is no security issue with handing out your @account name in ESO. Use it for your main vestiges name. Tattoo it on your forehead.

Account names are intended to be how you are identified, and this is how ESO uses them. This is how forums use them. This is how your email provider uses them. In hundreds of places, your account name is your identity and anyone who wants to know it, can know it.

So, unless you are one of those people who carefully burn nail clippings and hair trimmings, pick a decent and secure password that is unique to ESO and you have nothing to worry about.

reagen_lionel

Madness!

SirAndy

McDonuts wrote: »

Just put a comma after their name. For example: /w johndoe,

adowen_ESO

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

adowen_ESO wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

adowen_ESO wrote: »

I can remember character names Damn well thank you... It has nothing with forgetting a name. They need to have the @ name listed in place of their character name or alongside so that when switching between characters you can easily message them.

Still doesn't make sense. If you're logged in, and chatting with "Krull the Destroyer', then log out and back in with an alt, you can still message" Krull the Destroyer". In fact, any character in game can.

This is not the case. This is the case if "Krull the Destroyer" player is on your friends list or within your guild though.

Actually, you're mistaken. The only instance where you can't message a character directly in that instance is when it's cross-faction chat. If they're the same faction, there's no problem.

This character I was messaging was not cross faction...we were both in stonefalls speaking. As soon as i swapped charcters it would not let me message him, so i had to send him an in-game e-mail to message me at me @ name. Either way, the private messaging system needs fixing.

Amsel_McKay

I wish I knew what faction my guild mates are in... THAT is annoying... need help with Dungeon X... Ok be right there... oh wait your in another faction...