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We REALLY need timezone based campaigns
Skwor
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The night-capping is getting stupid. What is the point of a campaign when players in another timezone use that to take objectives while the others are asleep.
I have requested this before and still think it needs to happen. It is not PVP when players log in and take objectives unopposed except by NPC's.
Please look into some way to make campaigns timezone locked or objectives to powerful so a small group cannot take out 2/3 the map when the majority of the players are asleep. Night-capping makes the whole idea of an epic struggle more a petty merri-go-round.
Edited by Skwor on August 9, 2014 1:36PM I have requested this before and still think it needs to happen. It is not PVP when players log in and take objectives unopposed except by NPC's.
Please look into some way to make campaigns timezone locked or objectives to powerful so a small group cannot take out 2/3 the map when the majority of the players are asleep. Night-capping makes the whole idea of an epic struggle more a petty merri-go-round.
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Merlight✭✭✭✭✭Why do you care what others do while you sleep? How do you know they're in a different time zone? And what makes you think your day-capping is more honorable? You can hardly judge whether it's PvP or not when you're not there.
If you want to find the game in the same state you left it yesterday, perhaps you should look for one with save & load feature.
But otherwise I'm all for boosting NPCs, especially near their home base. Yesterday I checked the non-vet campaign, and it feels NPCs really matter there, unlike in all other campaigns where they're just a nuissance.
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quakedawg_ESO✭✭✭Oblivion might be the game for you. No other players to fret over.
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✭Not gonna to happen, lets face it the everyone from some time zones choose certian factions and won't switch easy money and easy ap and very little effort its human nature to want things like that, no matter what people say they really want it that way.0 -
RedTalon✭✭✭✭✭
✭quakedawg_ESO wrote: »Oblivion might be the game for you. No other players to fret over.
Well would have recommended that one last for the single-player games.
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✭✭✭quakedawg_ESO wrote: »Oblivion might be the game for you. No other players to fret over.
Wow you don't read much do you?
Try again, I am actually asking to PVP more, ergo fight more online players not less. I desire to have FEWER players AVOID PVP playing like it was a single player game as opposed to actually ENGAGING players.
On the other hand it is you actually arguing for less player interaction so perhaps you should take your own advice and play oblivion if real PVP is a but much for you?
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No you're not. You're asking for players whose playtime/style doesn't suit you to be locked out of "your" campaign. War doesn't build character... I mean, doesn't pause because soldiers are tired.skwornub18_ESO wrote: »Try again, I am actually asking to PVP more, ergo fight more online players not less. I desire to have FEWER players AVOID PVP playing like it was a single player game as opposed to actually ENGAGING players.
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The offspring of the root of all evil in ESO by DeanTheCat
Why ESO needs a monthly subscription
When an MMO is designed around a revenue model rather than around fun, it doesn’t have a long-term future. ― Richard A. Bartle
Their idea of transparent, at least when it comes to communication, bears a striking resemblance to a block of coal. ― lordrichter
... in the balance of power between the accountants and marketing types against the artists, developers and those who generally want to build and run a good game then that balance needs to always be in favour of the latter - because the former will drag the game into the ground for every last bean they can squeeze out of it. ― Santie Claws0 -
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✭I some times stay up to 5 am playing pvp, its not a timezone thing, its just people playing at odd hours, or when they feel like they have the time. So no you shouldn't decide when I need to play.2 -
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✭So is it not general battle tactics to attack when resistance is lowest ?
Few are in game 24 hours a day.Anything that can be exploited will be exploited0 -
dbishop✭✭✭Teams have been balanced overnight so perhaps you just need to co-operate more to achieve objectives instead of1 -
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No you're not. You're asking for players whose playtime/style doesn't suit you to be locked out of "your" campaign. War doesn't build character... I mean, doesn't pause because soldiers are tired.skwornub18_ESO wrote: »Try again, I am actually asking to PVP more, ergo fight more online players not less. I desire to have FEWER players AVOID PVP playing like it was a single player game as opposed to actually ENGAGING players.
Wow I say I want more PVP and that those who avoid PVP should not be able to PVE objectives meant for PVP and you tell me the problem is i just do not like that play-style, your are just a frigging genius.
So tell me Einstein how long would PVP last if everyone decided to have a play-style where they AVOIDED PVP ?
Again Yes I am so do not try to say my post says something it does not. You are the one defending playing PVE in a PVP campaign, lame.
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✭✭✭Rune_Relic wrote: »So is it not general battle tactics to attack when resistance is lowest ?
Few are in game 24 hours a day.
Yes if this was war but it is a game where PVP is the goal, not PVE. By your logic we should all get one avatar and when it dies we are done, no more playing. I mean after all in war when a person dies they hardly get back up at a spawn at a new point to go fight some more.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭OP, have you guested into another campaign in addition to your home campaign? This should help a little ... one campaign may turn quiet for a short time but the guest campaign could be raging at certain times.
I agree with most of the comments, here, however. With the recent deduction in total campaigns to five (5), there have been more opportunities to PvP. Therefore, if you want to do more PvP, then you're probably going to have to find another game to supplement ESO.
Personally, I have been doing Chillrend this week, and it has been non-stop. There has hardly been any time on that campaign to get any sort of break ... due to there always being something going on.0 -
Merlight✭✭✭✭✭skwornub18_ESO wrote: »Please look into some way to make campaigns timezone locked or objectives to powerful so a small group cannot take out 2/3 the map when the majority of the players are asleep.skwornub18_ESO wrote: »Wow I say I want more PVP and that those who avoid PVP should not be able to PVE objectives meant for PVP and you tell me the problem is i just do not like that play-style, your are just a frigging genius.
The problem is you want to lock people out based on timezone, which doesn't even make sense, and have delusions that it will somehow make these people pvp when and where you want them to.
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The offspring of the root of all evil in ESO by DeanTheCat
Why ESO needs a monthly subscription
When an MMO is designed around a revenue model rather than around fun, it doesn’t have a long-term future. ― Richard A. Bartle
Their idea of transparent, at least when it comes to communication, bears a striking resemblance to a block of coal. ― lordrichter
... in the balance of power between the accountants and marketing types against the artists, developers and those who generally want to build and run a good game then that balance needs to always be in favour of the latter - because the former will drag the game into the ground for every last bean they can squeeze out of it. ― Santie Claws0 -
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whats your problem?skwornub18_ESO wrote: »NookyZooky wrote: »Oblivion is an awesome game.
Then go play it.
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The issue with this is that it would be empty. A small portion boohooed about vet being op and need a non vet campaign, its dead not one faction ever over one bar. Time zones will never work.0
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The problem is you want to lock people out based on timezone, which doesn't even make sense, and have delusions that it will somehow make these people pvp when and where you want them to.
The world is full of horrible ideas. Why should these forums be different
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✭✭✭✭✭I guess this would be one way to stop with my insane 4am nights to crown Emperors.
I'm not really in favour of time lock outs, it's not fair on those who can't play in normal hours and would need at least three campaigns where for eight hours a day it's locked and nothing interesting can happen.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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Junipus✭✭✭✭✭skwornub18_ESO wrote: »The night-capping is getting stupid. What is the point of a campaign when players in another timezone use that to take objectives while the others are asleep.
I have requested this before and still think it needs to happen. It is not PVP when players log in and take objectives unopposed except by NPC's.
Please look into some way to make campaigns timezone locked or objectives to powerful so a small group cannot take out 2/3 the map when the majority of the players are asleep. Night-capping makes the whole idea of an epic struggle more a petty merri-go-round.
This post has singlehandedly set back humanity's evolution by 10 years.
In an online game, where people from all over the world can play and people can play at any time due to various commitments, you want them to only play when you're online? (Face it, there's no difference between nightcapping and when you're not online).
You might decide to change your lifestyle so you're playing during the night, or switch to whichever server you're not on currently to make use of the time difference and nightcap during primetime.
Your request, whilst understandable and ever so slightly sensible, is still asinine.The Legendary Nothing0 -
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✭skwornub18_ESO wrote: »Rune_Relic wrote: »So is it not general battle tactics to attack when resistance is lowest ?
Few are in game 24 hours a day.
Yes if this was war but it is a game where PVP is the goal, not PVE. By your logic we should all get one avatar and when it dies we are done, no more playing. I mean after all in war when a person dies they hardly get back up at a spawn at a new point to go fight some more.
You heard of the "Alliance War" right. Just saying
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HazardousNovex✭✭✭skwornub18_ESO wrote: »The night-capping is getting stupid. What is the point of a campaign when players in another timezone use that to take objectives while the others are asleep.
I have requested this before and still think it needs to happen. It is not PVP when players log in and take objectives unopposed except by NPC's.
Please look into some way to make campaigns timezone locked or objectives to powerful so a small group cannot take out 2/3 the map when the majority of the players are asleep. Night-capping makes the whole idea of an epic struggle more a petty merri-go-round.
War doesn't just stop when you want it to.
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✭Why do you care what others do while you sleep? How do you know they're in a different time zone? And what makes you think your day-capping is more honorable? You can hardly judge whether it's PvP or not when you're not there.
If you want to find the game in the same state you left it yesterday, perhaps you should look for one with save & load feature.
But otherwise I'm all for boosting NPCs, especially near their home base. Yesterday I checked the non-vet campaign, and it feels NPCs really matter there, unlike in all other campaigns where they're just a nuissance.
Actually the funny part is that , if they really are from other time zone , then the OP by capping stuff during this day time might actually be night capping stuff from the others point of view :P."Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
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Gaettusk✭✭✭Nox_Aeterna wrote: »Why do you care what others do while you sleep? How do you know they're in a different time zone? And what makes you think your day-capping is more honorable? You can hardly judge whether it's PvP or not when you're not there.
If you want to find the game in the same state you left it yesterday, perhaps you should look for one with save & load feature.
But otherwise I'm all for boosting NPCs, especially near their home base. Yesterday I checked the non-vet campaign, and it feels NPCs really matter there, unlike in all other campaigns where they're just a nuissance.
Actually the funny part is that , if they really are from other time zone , then the OP by capping stuff during this day time might actually be night capping stuff from the others point of view :P.
Except that the official timezone of the server is NA Eastern, so it wouldn't be night capping1 -
Antirob✭✭✭Sorry dude but theres no way of having that work properly. Best bet is recruit some aussiesVehemence
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