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Suggestion - Mounts

Lakishi
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Okay this may be beating a dead horse (pun intended), however I had a brilliant idea the other day.

First off I think we can all agree that buying mounts was set up to be a gold sink. So knowing that we know that mounts are currently character bound giving people the opportunity to buy a total of 5 mount per character for a total of 40 horses over 8 characters.

My first opinion is that they should make the mounts be account bound, but limited still with the feed pattern. So if one character feeds the horse, that horse would be on cooldown for all characters.

My second opinion is along the lines of them offering the palomino horse for sale in the Bethesda store for $10. That horse offers the same stats as the current brown horse does (15 speed, 0 stamina, 0 carry). By making the mounts be account bound would give them the opportunity to make new mounts.

As an example let us follow the Wayrest stableman who states, "Sometimes I can get a bear from Orsinium." Well make the bear mount be the first example:
They offer a brown bear (10 speed, 5 stamina, 0 carry) in the stables for 250,000 gold. Or one could go to the Bethesda store and pay $15 for the same mount. Next they could offer a grey bear (20 speed, 5 stamina, 0 carry), a white bear (10 speed, 15 stamina, 0 carry), or a black bear (10 speed, 5 stamina, 10 carry). Those mounts would then cost 1,000,000 gold from the stables, or they could offer the same mounts for $25-30 each from the store for people too busy to work for the gold.

This would offer the additional gold sink that the current mounts give, while adding a bit of variety to the game. Offering items for sale in the Bethesda store is good for those casual players who have more money to toss at a game, without penalizing the hardcore players who spend a lot of time in the game to gather the cash for the items.

Edit: After discussion with my guild about how this would work, the consensus was that the stables themselves should be available to all characters on the account. This way you have the base horse that the character has equipped which would not be in the stables, but could change to one in the stables for multitude of purposes. If gathering for provisioning supplies one might want a horse with extra capacity, but when PvPing you would want either the speed horse or a stamina based horse.
Edited by Lakishi on August 9, 2014 12:25AM
  • EmilyEstelle
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    Well thought out. Personally, I can't say I'd rush out and get a bear because I like my horse, but I know a lot of people who probably would. As long as it didn't give them an actual advantage over a horse user I'd think it's a good idea. My favorite part is account bound mounts. I would love that.
  • Adam.hongkhamub17_ESO
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    Yea great idea. Gold is being easily saved up but nothing to spend it on anymore. Nothing is worth over 200k . There are people out there with millions but have the only choice of just making more gold or trade for real money. This is a great Idea and I hope it is considered :)
  • StormbrookThunderb
    I would like a flying eagle. That way I could soar across tamriel. Swoop down. Simon the eagle could chomp down some of those hippie elves that pestered my descendants in sky rim, and make sure simon you eat those bones! DEATH TO THE EVlVES.

    In lotr elves are awesome. IN Tamriel DIE HIPPIES DIE!!
  • AlexDougherty
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    They won't make mounts account bound, the whole point is that the mount should be for that character, not for every character that person has. Otherwise you could have a level 3 character with a 34K horse and all 50 upgrades (I know technically you still can, but not without time invested).

    My person favourite idea is for them to lower the costs of horses so we buy more of them. Also more stable spaces, so wer can buy them.

    Also I asked about the bears months ago, doesn't look like we're getting them, which is a shame. bears-to-buy
    Edited by AlexDougherty on August 8, 2014 9:19AM
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  • Circuitous
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    Microtransaction horses like the Palomino are already kind of account bound, in that they cost 1g a piece for however many characters you want. I think that's a perfectly adequate solution, and also allows you to tailor the mount's progression to each character.

    Bear mounts in the cash shop? I'm down. Not sure about that 1mil price tag for in-game buyers, though. If it's going to be a big step up in quality, sure, it could be more expensive. Otherwise it'd need to be a cash shop exclusive (like the Palomino and Imperial horses, which have the low-tier base stats) and/or purchasable for a reasonable price in-game.
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  • Araflin
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    I'd love a bear for my Orc! Oh, I'd also like a pack guar that follows me, a Bosmer chef, and a palanquin converted from a few Dwermer centurions. (If you happen to see Santa on your travels).

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  • Circuitous
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    I'd seriously buy a guar mount day one.
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  • AlexDougherty
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    Circuitous wrote: »
    I'd seriously buy a guar mount day one.

    Buy the toy, it comes with a code for a pack guar. I know, not a mount, but it's better than nothing.
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  • Circuitous
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    Circuitous wrote: »
    I'd seriously buy a guar mount day one.

    Buy the toy, it comes with a code for a pack guar. I know, not a mount, but it's better than nothing.

    IF I CAN'T RIDE IT I DON'T CARE.

    Also, I can't afford the pack guar plushie at this time, as much as it pains me.
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  • AlexDougherty
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    Circuitous wrote: »
    Circuitous wrote: »
    I'd seriously buy a guar mount day one.

    Buy the toy, it comes with a code for a pack guar. I know, not a mount, but it's better than nothing.

    IF I CAN'T RIDE IT I DON'T CARE.

    Also, I can't afford the pack guar plushie at this time, as much as it pains me.

    Yeah, with postage to Europe it's very expensive, which is why I haven't gotten it.
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  • Lakishi
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    I'm all for having cash shop goodies that do not unbalance the game however as someone with a severely limited income, I would like the option to be able to buy said items in the game itself.
  • Lakishi
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    Araflin wrote: »
    I'd love a bear for my Orc! Oh, I'd also like a pack guar that follows me, a Bosmer chef, and a palanquin converted from a few Dwermer centurions. (If you happen to see Santa on your travels).

    P.S. NOTHING with wings.

    I also agree with the no flying mount in the game.. what do you want to turn this into some World of Warcrack clone?
  • Winnower
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    I am wholeheartedly in favor of having the option to buy extras with your choice of either RLcash or In-game gold. Achievement mounts would be nice as well.

    My largest gripe with the LoTRO cash store was the lack of opportunity for those who *play the game* to acquire the good stuff in-game as well.

    I like the notion of bear and other mounts, just not flying / polka-dot / my little pony / cutsy / non-lore mounts.

    I'm fine with the current "buy an imperial / palomino" mount and get to buy it for 1 gold on each toon that wants it. If the mounts were account bound and I could have only 5 I'd cry. If I could have 40 I'd be ok with it.
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  • charley222
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    i just hope my orc got something like this :)
    because now all mount are the same
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    Edited by charley222 on August 8, 2014 1:03PM
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  • Araflin
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    Not sure why it needs the leg warmers though. Did it watch too many keep fit videos in the 80's? :smile:
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  • Kaynehusky
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    I wanna ride a *** senche tiger. That would be a badass mount.
  • Araflin
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    Seriously, I can't stop imagining that critter / mount doing "Flashdance" now! It's unsettling!
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  • arena25
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    World of Warcraft used flying mounts for a purpose...to basically cheat.

    Now, if you wanna add exotic mounts, then do so, but NO flying mounts...
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  • nerrollus
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    Account bound mounts would be cool. I'd love to have my max speed light horse for my level 25 dk. lol

    Being able to put barding on high level mounts or allow us to do war paint on them would also be awesome.
    Edited by nerrollus on August 8, 2014 5:14PM

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  • smeeprocketnub19_ESO
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    I would be okay with just horses personally. Or camels maybe, now that craglorn has them.

    I just got the speed mount for 42k so I am pretty happy.
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  • Beerbill
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    I really hope they make the mounts account bound at least the one that are in the stables.

    In that way i if i had 3 horses i could use one in my main, making other characters unable to use him, and the other two become available to alts...
  • Lakishi
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    Aye making the stables available to all characters on the account would work as well, which would let each character still have a different horse for personal use but be able to feed whichever is in the stables under the timer allotment. That way for instance if I decide to pvp on my sorc I would rather have her light horse (buckskin) equipped, but why wouldn't her imperial horse which is trained heavily in capacity be availible to another character to use etc etc.

    That would still make it so that the current horses each character has would be equipped but the mounts in the stables if the character has opened the slots would be available to all characters within the same account.

    Edit: We were discussing this topic in guild and that was a conculsion we had come up with last night, I just didn't get around to posting it as a change.
    Edited by Lakishi on August 9, 2014 12:20AM
  • Navuri
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    arena25 wrote: »
    World of Warcraft used flying mounts for a purpose...to basically cheat.

    Now, if you wanna add exotic mounts, then do so, but NO flying mounts...

    Then Wayshrines are a way of cheating as well.
  • Nihili
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    Yea great idea. Gold is being easily saved up but nothing to spend it on anymore. Nothing is worth over 200k . There are people out there with millions but have the only choice of just making more gold or trade for real money. This is a great Idea and I hope it is considered :)

    How do they have millions? I'm VR and I can't get my cash up above 20,000g :cry:
  • AlexDougherty
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    Navuri wrote: »
    arena25 wrote: »
    World of Warcraft used flying mounts for a purpose...to basically cheat.

    Now, if you wanna add exotic mounts, then do so, but NO flying mounts...

    Then Wayshrines are a way of cheating as well.

    No, wayshrines are fixed points, flying mounts are for getting over any obstacle, big difference.
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  • ShadowscaleSithis
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    I personally would like to see one of those Khajit mounts that (I think this is who did it on youtube) Shoddycast showed on a Lore series on Youtube
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